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wow i just tried that thing to manipulate Prince Thromel to get both

alls i gotta say is.....wow

a solo wizard duel weilding these swords that never miss

dont even need weapon focus or two weapon fighting or any of that junk hehehe

now all i gotta do is wait for the elven chainmail i ordered to come in from the chick in the temple

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wouldn't suggest to take a SC wizard for this...


...as you don't get the best feats:


- power attack
- comb. exp.
- dual wielding
- imp. dual wielding
- EW:BS
- cleave
- great cleave

(- imp. critical)


AFAIK for using the elven mail you will also need 2 armor prof. feats for a wizard...


so take at least 2 fighter levels...

...btw. three rogue levels would be great for this PC !

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wouldn't suggest to take a SC wizard for this...


...as you don't get the best feats:


- power attack
- comb. exp.
- dual wielding
- imp. dual wielding
- EW:BS
- cleave
- great cleave

(- imp. critical)


AFAIK for using the elven mail you will also need 2 armor prof. feats for a wizard...


so take at least 2 fighter levels...

...btw. three rogue levels would be great for this PC !

um first off one fighter level wud be ok for ALL armor
second u can take a feat to give a wizard light armor proficiency
and that is what elven chainmail is Light Armor cuz its so light.

Originally posted by Raumoheru
um first off one fighter level wud be ok for ALL armor
second u can take a feat to give a wizard light armor proficiency
and that is what elven chainmail is Light Armor cuz its so light.

I'm not sure with the chainmail - should be medium armor but I've no PC with only light armor prof. to test this...


...but if wielding both - I would suggest to max the numbers of attack...

so you need at least 6 BAB for a 2nd main hand att. and imp. critical...

and you should use comb. exp. (5) and power attack (max. possible)...

...having up to 5 att. per round that always hit - sneak damage gets really powerfull (would take at least 3 rogue levels)


...not knowing exactly how imp. critical and keen works - but if possible max this out !


...afterwards you will do that much damage that cleave and great cleave really pays off...


so for dual wielding take a:

CG human: fighter 4 or 6 - rogue 3 - wizard 3 or 1



...or if you don't have any problem with the huge exp. penalty:


fighter 4 - rogue 3 - barb 1 - wizard 1 - bard 1


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Just some small errata...

You'll need BAB 8 to take the Impr Crit. Feat, so it's hard to get for multi-builds.

If you take 3 Rouge lvls early and the rest as Fighter you'll be lvl 9 before you get it, at Rog3/Ftr6.

For Scather/Fragarach, the Keen/Crit stack issue's irrelevant since you cant enchant them. Only way to improve crit. is the feat.

I would take a Cleric9 / Wizard 1 build. 2 attacks, BAB +6/+1, L1 to L5 Cleric spells, and you can Copy all mage scrolls availble and Scribe Scrolls after (yes, you can Scribe L5 mage scrolls with a multi-wiz

Hope this helps

Originally posted by Mulligan
Just some small errata...

You'll need BAB 8 to take the Impr Crit. Feat, so it's hard to get for multi-builds.

If you take 3 Rouge lvls early and the rest as Fighter you'll be lvl 9 before you get it, at Rog3/Ftr6.

For Scather/Fragarach, the Keen/Crit stack issue's irrelevant since you cant enchant them. Only way to improve crit. is the feat.

I would take a Cleric9 / Wizard 1 build. 2 attacks, BAB +6/+1, L1 to L5 Cleric spells, and you can Copy all mage scrolls availble and Scribe Scrolls after (yes, you can Scribe L5 mage scrolls with a multi-wiz

Hope this helps

...you won't get enough feats using a cleric...


ok when you can't craft (cast?) keen on the BS...

...I will go for a fighter 6 - rogue 3 - wizard 1...

...taking the 6th fighter level last with imp. crit. and just ignore the exp. penalty.

5 att. with 2D6 sneak and +14 (?) power attack - imp. crit. and great cleave !!!


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