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Universal Morality
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 6:25 pm
by Scayde
Universal Morality, or Universal Ethics...does such a thing exist?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 7:06 pm
by dragon wench
I believe that there are universal truths or ethics... and many seem to connect directly with human surivival and/or maintaining social harmony.
However, I think that while such universals exist, different cultures interpret and define them within their own particular experience, framework and values.
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 7:45 pm
by Bloodstalker
No

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 8:13 pm
by der Moench
Yes.
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 8:20 pm
by Bloodstalker
Contrary monks

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 8:21 pm
by Weasel
Undecided
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 8:24 pm
by Scayde
I love these deep philosophical discussions
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 8:26 pm
by dragon wench
Originally posted by Scayde
I love these deep philosophical discussions
Ain't SYM wonderful!

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 8:36 pm
by Bloodstalker
It was a 50/50 question, either me or DM got it right,.
Weasel's just waiting to see the right answer

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 8:36 pm
by Scayde
LOL...Ya gotta love it !
I don't think ethics exists on a universal level. If it does, then what defines it?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 8:40 pm
by Weasel
Please continue!!
Originally posted by Bloodstalker
Weasel's just waiting to see the right answer
There is no proof of this
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 8:44 pm
by Scayde
That this question would have received serious consideration was..I suppose, a little much to expect

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 8:47 pm
by Bloodstalker
Ah, but my answer WAS serious....you simply never asked for any explanations of why I though so

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 8:49 pm
by Scayde
So, enlighten me
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 8:54 pm
by Bloodstalker
As soon as I get the brain power back, I will
As it is, I am running half past em,pty, so I will exit this thread before a mod layeth the smack down on me

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 9:00 pm
by Scayde
Tease
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 5:40 pm
by Therion
Hmm.. as I am a Christian, I'd say yes. Because God is Lord of.. well.. everything, and He made the rules. There is a truth and it's God.
Otherwise you could just see morals and ethics as developed by man.. it is possible that a different species somewhere in the galaxy would develop the same system, but not necessary I think. Morals and ethics (or the interpretation and value of them)do change between different individuals, but as I believe in God, I believe in an extreme good, and an extreme evil, acts being good and evil, whether people see them as such or not.
On truth: I believe there is one truth, one reality which encapsulates everything, we just don't know what it is. I may believe in God and that my way of worship/belief is the (or close to the) way God wants it, doesn't mean it's true and that I am right. It's true that I believe that, though.
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 5:54 pm
by Aegis
I do not believe that there is a true good or evil, nor is there real 'truth' so to speak. These concepts are created by man, and thus cannot be taken as universal or infalliable. Proof of this is in the changes we see, in both moraity and good and evil, from culture to culture, and society to society.
Even if we were to unite as a single nation or group, these concepts wouldn't become anymore true, as they would still be concepts created by man.
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 11:52 pm
by Xandax
I would say it depends 100% on the situation and what is being observed.
I think that there is such a thing as universial ethics in some/many areas of human life. But I do however also recognize that all people and cultures (currently

) are different and in different situations, which could make actions, that to some could seem un-ethical, somewhat more understandeble. (I'm not saying more ethical

)
Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 2:00 pm
by InfiniteNature
Ah so there are situations when even the worst of crimes would be right then?