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I have a weird question , lets say i use Jaherias (what ever her name is), and cast doom and some other saving throw lowering effect spells on Fircraag (red Dragon), with out making him go hostile , would i then be able to use my lvl 14 monk to quivering palm him and kill him , in the likely chance that he would not make saving throw? Any and all responces are appreciated!!

well Hobbes82 first off all he will go hostile on you if you start with lower res. doom, breach or ect.
it is much like the finger of death.

and welcome to Gamebanshee Hobbes82

hey,
even with him hostile u can still whack him in one hit, its very amusing really...

*Whack him*, um.... yeah.....

Truth be told Fikraag is nothing compared to a Monk, i suppose the monk has the strength of his deity behind him

Quite a few

This is true and part of the reason why I am updating the dragons with new AI, So you cant get close to them without them going hostile. However the quivering palm is very strong...

its not dificult to kill a dragon with quivering palm, with my monk i killed all dragons with it, the advantage is that magic resistance does not afect it so you dont need to cast lower resistance on him, also i noticed that this hability works many times on creatures with a very low saving trow (like dragons) so i think its not a save to be made but a predetermined chace something like that:
if the monster is hit my a quivering palm he will have 50% chance to survive no matter wich monster it is
the same aplies to stunning blow(thought many creatures have free action like trolls)

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so i think its not a save to be made but a predetermined chace something like that:
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It is a save to be made, the dragons do not have that good of saving throws (not like I would have gave them (and did in Manverus and my expansion coming out)).

If you try to fight a high level dwarf fighter that is wearing equipment to help his saving throws the monk will get spanked, especially if the dwarf has a ring of free action on.

Check back posts for my class vs class battles (yet more weapons/class testing, weapons class testing, etc to name a few)

yeah but for sure magic resistance does not affect either quivering palm or stunning blow cuz it works in golems