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Less Generic NPC Project: Ald-Ruhn

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:27 pm
by Dark Master
I guess the title is a bit of a give-away, we are looking for people who will be able to devote maybe twenty minutes to half an hour a day to a mod that will replace all of the dialogue in Ald-Ruhn. There are a lot of NPCs that require replacing in Ald-Ruhn, 124 to be precise, it’s going to be an excruciating month or two, but we will have no intention of failing. It’s a good time to tackle this monster town because a lot of people are on school holidays. If you feel you may be able to help out here's what’s involved:

You must be able to write reasonably well, you don't have to be Tolkien, but you do have to be able to write interesting and engaging dialogue.

The plan for Ald-Ruhn is to have three separate teams working at different parts of the town, and merging all three mods to get the final plugin. All you have to do as a writer is fill out a template (one is included below for reference) and email it to your team leader when each character is done. We will want to stay within the Morrowind feel (so no words like 'cool', 'bollocks', or 'DVD player').

We do need people to be committed, so if you take an NPC on, it’s expected that it’s done within 72 hours (takes about 20 minutes, half an hour if you add extra topics), so it’s not a huge commitment.

No long term commitment is required, so you can take on an NPC, and not take on another until he/she is finished, so you make a decision on a 'rolling' basis. Or you can take five, and have two weeks to do them.

Here’s the template for Ald-Ruhn so you have an idea what kind of thing is expected of you. If, after reading it, you think you can help out, and would like to, reply here, and add me to your MSN list, or reply here and email me, I can give you more details. Replying here is just so this thread stays alive.

I look forward to hearing from you soon!

Ald-Ruhn Template:

Useful abbreviations:

NPC race: %race
NPC class: %class
NPC name: %name
NPC rank: %rank
Player name: %pcname
Player race: %pcrace
Player class: %pcclass
Player rank (only if in same faction): %pcrank
Player next rank (only if in same faction): %pcnextrank


NPC Name:

Background:

My Trade:

Ald-Ruhn:

House Redoran (player is not a member):

House Redoran(player is a member):

House Redoran(player is the leader – note, they will have killed Bolvyn Vemin):

Latest Rumours:

Someone in particular:

Little Advice:

Little Secret:

Specific Place:

Services:

Morrowind Lore:

Dunmer {if the NPC is a different race, replace with their race}:

Any topic you want added put here, if you want player responses write them in, as well as what the NPC will say/do after each response, if you would like one dialogue option to open up another, put the key phrase in bold in the first response and add a new response for the phrase below, eg:

Background: I’m a simple farmer.

Simple Farmer: Yes, I make my living off the land.

Dark Master

PS, even if you've worked on a previous town, I need confimation that you'll be on this one.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:26 pm
by Monolith
Alright, let's keep the thread alive ;)

I don't have MSN ( or at least no account) and I think there's no need of writing you a mail, after all those PMs?

BTW, one question. You mentioned 124 NPCs, guards included?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:36 pm
by Dark Master
Guards are not included, but I do need your email address (send it to me in a PM if you'd rather). I'm going to send a big message on Saturday with the plan for the mod, and each team listed on it. ie:

Team 1
Team leader: DM
Team members: JesterKing, PersianPaladin, etc

Team 2
Team leader: oldmanbob
Team members: Will, Monolith (just an example, nothing decided at all yet), etc

Team 3
Team leader: Max ~ aka Nobody
Team members: <insert names>

I'm looking forward to hearing from the people from this forum who worked on the last mod, so I know if I can put them on a team, ie, Beornica and Fable.

DM

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:29 am
by PersianPaladin
I am going on holiday next week for a period of 7 days, but i am prepared to work on a few more NPC's in Ald-Rhun, or as many as possible - but i don't have time to do 'quest-based' NPC's, however much i would love to.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:36 am
by Dark Master
[QUOTE=PersianPaladin]I am going on holiday next week for a period of 7 days, but i am prepared to work on a few more NPC's in Ald-Rhun, or as many as possible - but i don't have time to do 'quest-based' NPC's, however much i would love to.[/QUOTE]

Neither do I. No more quest NPCs after the nightmare I had putting the dialogue in last time.

DM

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:01 am
by Rookierookie
Since I've gotten an old computer for myself I have all the time I need on computer based projects.

I don't know a great deal about the scripting, however, so I'd need some help.

I've never been in House R so I can't do any dialogues for members. I can't actually mod, but I can write reasonably well.

My Email

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:15 am
by Dark Master
I'll email you in the next three days.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:41 am
by Yeltsu
I would like to help as well. I cannot mod, but I can write well enough.
I have msn, so that shouldn't be a problem.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:37 am
by PersianPaladin
Well, i don't think it will be a problem excluding quest-based NPC's from the Ald-Rhun project, because all we need to do is to edit the NPC's that don't have quests already, but not touch the NPC's there that already have quests attached to them.

I think we should keep quest-based NPC's for the smaller settlements, though - thats my reccomendation.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:02 am
by Dark Master
[QUOTE=PersianPaladin]Well, i don't think it will be a problem excluding quest-based NPC's from the Ald-Rhun project, because all we need to do is to edit the NPC's that don't have quests already, but not touch the NPC's there that already have quests attached to them.

I think we should keep quest-based NPC's for the smaller settlements, though - thats my reccomendation.[/QUOTE]

If by quest NPCs you mean ones that give quests (ie Edwinna) then we can replace her other dialogue, the basic topics, and she will still give the quests out fine. But if you are talking about NPCs like the Zama-Rasours, I agree we should keep them for smaller towns, in fact it'll be a while before I put any more quests in game.

DM

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:37 pm
by Rookierookie
So, like, all that needs to be done is to make them talk more like real people than clones?

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:58 pm
by JesterKing
lol! exactly rookie... clones is a good word for it. oh and DM, is it even possible to do guards? they are randomly re-spawning i suppose so it would be more like clones than ever if we made them uniquely scripted... argh well defenitely count me in on this project.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:42 pm
by Dark Master
Guards are clones. Many NPCs with the same ID. If we give unique dialogue to one, they all say it. We were able to give the guards in Khuul and Ald-Velothi specific dialogue for the topics Khuul and Ald Velothi, since this would mean all guards in those towns said that topic, but there is only one guard. Topics like background would be said by guards all over Vvardenfell since that is not a local topic.

DM

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 6:43 am
by JesterKing
oh well... a great number of real world military forves are brainwashed to say the same thing anyway, so its realistic enough! :D

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:46 am
by Monolith
[QUOTE=Dark Master]Guards are clones. Many NPCs with the same ID. If we give unique dialogue to one, they all say it. We were able to give the guards in Khuul and Ald-Velothi specific dialogue for the topics Khuul and Ald Velothi, since this would mean all guards in those towns said that topic, but there is only one guard. Topics like background would be said by guards all over Vvardenfell since that is not a local topic.

DM[/QUOTE]

But that can be changed as well. I admit that it could cause incompatibility ( arg, what a word...) but it would make the mods even better. I'm sure that guards have much to say...
( Just give every guard an own ID and delete the clone-guards. The problem is that mods which change the clone-guards in order to change every guard of that type in Morrowind wouldn't change much anymore...)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:12 am
by Dark Master
[QUOTE=Monolith]But that can be changed as well. I admit that it could cause incompatibility ( arg, what a word...) but it would make the mods even better. I'm sure that guards have much to say...
( Just give every guard an own ID and delete the clone-guards. The problem is that mods which change the clone-guards in order to change every guard of that type in Morrowind wouldn't change much anymore...)[/QUOTE]

I hadn't thought of that, but there are too many of them anyway.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:39 am
by Dark Master
Team A NPCs

In response to the email I just sent, I have posted the Ald-Ruhn NPCs for Team A.

Note, many have already been done, these do not appear on the list, we have not forgotten Bolvyn Venim, don’t worry. Unlike previous towns, I do not have the willpower to check each of these NPCs trade etc, you must do that yourself.

We have already done about 12 NPCs in the manor district, these are the ones that are left. Notes you might like to consider, Miner Arobar is the war-commander for Redoran’s forces <more notes will be added here as dialogue comes in>

When you post which NPC(s) you would like I will update the list, and send you the appropriate template for that NPC. The list is below.

DM

Venim Manor

Varvur sarethri
Bevedar bels, male guard
Tereri irethi, female crusader (guard)


Sarethri manor

Gragus lleran
Arsyn salas
Domesae sarethi
Athyn sarethi

Council hall

Mivanu retheran - BEORNICA
Neminda - BEORNICA
Brara morvayn * - BEORNICA
Mondros balur * *= in Morvayn quarters, separate cell inside council hall - BEORNICA
Nilos talds * - BEORNICA

Ramoran manor - AMBERFIRE (all Ramoran NPCs)

Nalvyna sarinith
Raryn daren
Hlaren ramoran
Favilea sathendas
Garvs ramarys

Practice room (no idea where it is)

Vonden mano

Morag Tong Guildhall

Salyni nelvayn - JESTER KING
Lassour zenammu - JESTER KING
Goren andarys - JESTER KING

Llethri manor

Garisa llethri
Tens nolar
Ureval dralayn
Eindel
Llanel brenos - FLYSPECK
Dinara othrelas
Sanvyn llethri
Fathaa llethri

Llether Vari: Enchanter

Llether Vari - JESTER KING
Lledsa Vari - JESTER KING

Arobar manor:

Vindyne belvani
Ethes evos - DARK MASTER (I'm making him a scribe)
Llavane hlas
Gandosa arobar
Bolyn elval

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:48 am
by ~NOBODY~
Ok. Here's the list of all NPCs team C will be working on(thanx to DM for it):

Code:

Margenta - Name
Green - Job\Trade
Red - Gender(Male\Female)
Yellow - Race
Blue - Who will work on it
Orange - Comments

_________________________________________________________________

On the streets:

Navam VeranSilt Strider Operator M Dark Elf Cryptic, DONE

Braynas HlervuPauper M Dark Elf Monolith

Dandera SelaroSmith, Service F Dark Elf Asriel

Aryni OrethiCommoner F Dark Elf

Ano Vandowitchhunter M Dark Elf

Gindrala Hlerancommoner F Dark Elf

TauryonPauper M HIGH ELF Monolith, DONE Daynes Redothril's friend



In their homes:

Boldrisa Andranoagent F Dark Elf

Dravasa AndrethiPauper, Sleeper F Dark Elf

Drinar Varyoncommoner M Dark Elf

Galsa Gindunoble F Dark Elf Cryptic, DONE

Galthragothpauper M WOOD ELF Asriel

GildanBLADES SERVICE, nightblade M WOOD ELF

Goras Andreloscout M Dark Elf

Mivanu Andrelo - savant F Dark Elf

Guls Llervupriest, SERVICE M Dark Elf Cryptic

Hanari Assutlanipalagent F Dark Elf

Ienas Sarandassavant M Dark Elf

Ilmiriacrobat M HIGH ELF Orangetrashface, DONE Teached Beleths' daughters art. The daughter now studies art "in the West".


Pellecia Aurruspauper F IMPERIAL Max a.k.a. ~NOBODY~, DONE


In their shops:

Tuveso Beleth - smith F Dark Elf Giles337

Devel Beleth - pilgrim M Dark Elf orangetrashface

Tiras Sadus - trader M Dark Elf Cryptic, DONE Drinar Varyon's friend

Malpenix Blonia - trader M IMPERIAL

Codus Callonus - bookseller M IMPERIAL Asriel

Daynes Redothril - Pawnbroker M Dark Elf Monolith, DONE

Bevene Releth - clothier F Dark Elf Max a.k.a. ~NOBODY~, DONE Supplies Bivale with clothes

_________________________________________________________________

Anyone can take any "unused" NPC. Just post whom you want to take here. I'll send you an E-Mail with details if needed.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:04 am
by Monolith
@Nobody

I'm going to start with this one:

Tauryon ? Pauper M HIGH ELF

How about taking 3 or 4 NPCs at once?

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:09 am
by Dark Master
[QUOTE=~NOBODY~]Ok. Here's the list of all NPCs team C will be working on(thanx to DM for it):

Code:

Margenta - Name
Green - Job\Trade
Red - Gender(Male\Female)
Yellow - Race
Blue - Who will work on it

[/QUOTE]

Making me feel all inferior. :(