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Wich tank should I take?

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:01 am
by SP101
Wich NPC should I take?

Ok... due to a virus I lost my current game so I'm starting a new one. I have a Swashbuckler dualled to cleric at lvl 10, and I'm just oustide of Irenicus Dungeon. I plan on adding Edwin to my party, and wonder who else should I get. I was thinking about one or two of the followings :

- Cernd
- Haer'Dalis
- Mazzy
- Nalia
- Valygar (But he doesn't love Edwin :( )

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:28 am
by Squee
Ok, I wouldn't use Edwin and all those other good guys in the same party, kinda ruins the experience of true gaming joy!

Evil party:

You
Korgan
Viconia
Jan Jansen
Edvin
maybe Haer'Dalis

Good party:

You
Keldorn
Jan Jansen
Aerie (Jahiera)
And the rest is up to you.

Neutral party? Who plays that?

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:57 pm
by FireLighter
Hes looking for a 3 person party, so with your thief/cleric and edwin, i would have to take... from that list, I would say mazzy because youd have to have 2 tanks to keep them away from edwin while hes casting... otherwise they will always make short work of him.
EDIT: You may want to grab valygar right away, then head for mazzy in the you know where place, so you can have help until you ge to mazzy fentan. :)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:35 pm
by Skuld
Haer'Dalis because he's the only one who really fits with Edwin. And it adds that many more spells you can possibly hurl.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:38 pm
by Thrain
but he's not a true 'tank' in the sense that he cant charge in without buffs.

Korgan would be my choice. or Korgan and Mazzy, that's always fun

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:00 pm
by nephtu
Hmm...

Well, if you actually want a tank, Mazzy is the only one on your list. Valygar is a great scout and puts out lots of damage, but he isn't teally a tank. HD can tank in a pinch, with spell protections and defensive spin. Cernd and Nalia just bug me.

Have you also considered MOD NPCs or hacking the Bioware ones? I just made Edwin into a Kensai/Mage multi, it really suits him ;)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:02 pm
by SP101
I think about switching Haer'Dalis for a F/M or a F/M/T...

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:39 pm
by Screaming Johny
If you define tank as someone who can take damage and dish some out, then Mazzy is the only one on your list.

While I would play all the rest of your list before Mazzy (that righteous little wench), I wouldn't consider any of the others a tank. All the rest would require some sort of buff prior to battle.

My favourite tanks are Minsc, Anomen, and Korgan, who coincedentally all have 18/xx strength and can all carry a shield & wear full plate.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:44 pm
by Koveras
jaheira is also pretty good.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 7:16 pm
by SP101
A tank is only someone who can just "stop" the enemies (Like a buffez fighter/mage).

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 10:48 pm
by nephtu
Conventionally....

In most games a "tank" is a heavy melee who can take a beating well in a "typical" group combat situation.

So in BGII, that's most Rangers (though not really Stalkers, Archers and Beastmasters), Fighters (but less so Kensai), Paladins, and the like - mostly including single, dual and multi-class. Low AC & high HPs are the prime criteria for being a tank.

Minsc, Keldorn, Mazzy, Korgan and Jaheira are the stock Bioware tanks, IMAO

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:18 am
by iamweaver
As a note - when Nephtu says, "conventionally", he is referring to the use of the term in the MMORPG world. You can use the word however you want to, of course, but when most online RPG gamers see "tank" they think, "good damage taker, moderate damage giver".

Note that the moderate damage output is usually there in games tuned for "class balance"; in these systems, the flimsier the melee class is, the more damage they can do.