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I'm currently making a campaing about some radicals who are killing innocent people for even the smallest of sins.

I need ideas for the murders they commit.

They killers work alone, are quite intelligent, and have access to modern weapons (this includes illegal weapons like sawed-off shotguns, uzis, grenades, rocket launchers, etc).

The murders happen at night and are done within 1-3 hours. They murder mercilessly and most are not professionals. Most of the killers are between the ages of 16 and 35.Also they usually only kill one person, even if they are seen by a witness. They only slay the sinners. Please state how they get in, how they kill without being heard, and how they leave/escape from the house. Also state what weapon(s) they use if any. Please leave between 1-3 clues that will link the murder to a homoside (but not linking it to the murderer). Thanks for contributing.

Will the murders only happen in houses?
Multiple locations would increace your possibilities and creativity IMO.

Most of the murders will be done within the household of the sinner, but if the fanatic meets the sinner in some place where it would be easier to kill him without being seen, then that is where he will strike...it could be anyplace from a house to a dark allyway.

Sorry to bump this topic, but I really need ideas...

I could write how I would make such campaign if you like, but im not really sure that is what you are asking about.

Please leave between 1-3 clues that will link the murder to a homoside (but not limking it to the murderer).

Could you clarify this? I thought murder is roughly the same thing as homicide.

True a murder is a homoside, but sometimes a murder can look like suicide. I.e. if you find a man who has fallen from a seven story window, then search his room and find no signs of a struggle and the door was locked upon entrance, you suspect maybe an attack, but you see why he was in this hotel and see that he was taking depression therapy, then you think it was suicide. When in reality he was pushed out the window by some enemy and when the police investigated the house he was hidding in the room with a stolen key. So after the police left he opened the door and slid the key back under it so that it looked like it was there the entire time. Afterwards he uses his own key and unlocks the door to his room a floor below the victims room. He gets away with murder because it looks like suicide. I need some kind of evidence (like signs of a struggle) linking to the fact that it was a homoside, but no evidence linking it to the killer (like fingerprints everywhere). Maybe one fingerprint in a hard to find area that could only be found with a high search check.

I understand, that causes some concerns though.

Why are the PCs hired to investigate the murders in the first place?
Why are the PCs interested in what would look like a suicide to everyone else? There are many deaths in a city, why would the PCs investigate this one in particular?
If there are no clues to whom the murderer might be, how are they going to find him?

In a previous post you stated that the PC were hired to hunt down the paladins, but also that there were no clues. Does the police, or whoever hired the PCs, know about the paladins, and how do they know? If they dont know then what are they hiring them to do exactly, and what links the murders with each other?

If I were you I would try another setup. Fewer murders to begin with (perhaps 5-15) or something like that. Make the sins the murded have comitted more severe. Use another motivation for the PCs. Perhaps a relative or friend was one of the murdered. Let them find out in newspapers or something about similar murders. You can even have two relatives murdered, and make the PCs feel they are at risk too.

I could post more about investigation or so if you like, but it would help if you explained more about motivation for everyone; the PCs, the paladins, the police etc. The actual details about the murders isnt that important at this stage imo.

Ok. Dottie I seriously appreciate your contribution to my post and first I will answer your questions in order for first asked to last. I'm still in the planning stage of the campaign, so it will likely change with more of your posts.

1) They were hired because of their reputation.
2) I didn't say that they were interested in what looked like a suicide. That was only an example for your earlier question.
3) They aren't investigating one murder only. There are several murders throughout the campaign. Each will get them a little bit closer to the killer(s).
4) I will add in the clue to the murderer myself. That's why I don't want you to put in that clue.
5) They don't know about the fanatic paladins exactly. They were just hired to find out who is doing the murders.
6) The murders all have one thing in common...they were performed quickly and all of the victims did some kind of sin just before they died.

Now I will put in my comments to your suggestions.

The reason there are so many murders (about 200) is because for almost 70 years of the original fanatic paladins life, he killed people. He killed about 1-2 murders every week/month and they were just thought as not being linked in any way. Until recently they have begun to see the connections to those murders and notice similar murders are happening more constantly than they used to. Now they see it as a major threat, rather than several minor ones.

I like the idea about a friend dying, so I'll add that a close friend/investigator that was working on they same case as them gets killed after the first two or three murders they investigate. This would make it more than just a job and make it much more personal. Thanks for the idea .

Also I would really really appreciate it if you continued to post here . Any posts, insulting, contributing, or personal modifications/suggestions will be greatly appreciated from anyone.

I see, then it makes more sense. Still one thing I dont quite grasp though.

How does the PCs choose wich of all deaths in a city to investigate? Also, what kind of clues do you want from us? One that suggests a death is caused by murder, one that links the murders together with other murders, somthing else? I understand we shall not provide clues for the main plot, but what exactly shall we provide clues for?

Are the murders related to the sin they commited?

I'm thinking someone who litterd (sp?) and got killed at the junkyard. In his hand the paper he dropped on the street (or something more obvious).

A man who raped a girl gets his ... private parts cut off. The police finds him tied to his bed, the rest of him in a glass next to a bible.

A car salesman who sells crapy cars gets killed by his own car. His mouth was nailed to the exhaust pipe. With the car running, he litterly got blown up by hot air.

These idea's could solve the points Dottie made IMO.

I like Rob-hins idea about the murder being related to the sin. I just need you to provide the crime and the sin. Mostly I just need clues like broken in windows or the murder weapon and things like that. I.e. you come in to find a broken in door with a portable ram (clue 1), next you see torn rope and other signs of a struggle (clue 2), after that you see a huge bloody mess and remains of a bomb(clue 3), finally you find out that the victim had placed a car bomb and killed a family of innocent people and was on the run from the law (sin related to murder). Feel free to contribute more than one murder if you have the time or feel like it. Thanks to anyone who contributes.

Sorry I needed to bump this topic again, but I still need some ideas...Dottie?Rob-hin? Anybody???

A politician has been murderd.

He died of an overdose. When the recearch the drug, it turns out to be a very toxic chemical, not ment for consumption and not a drug. --> murder and clue #1.

In his house the find all kinds of expencive luxury items. Whirlpool, big tv, art, you name it. Obvioulsy, he couldn't pay for it with his paycheck. clue #2

If they search hard enough, they find a hidden compartment in his appartment with several hundred thousand dollars hidden there. clue #3

When they look into his functioning as a politicion, they hear rumors that he had given a, somewhat questionable permit, to a local chemical company. clue #4

The politician was bribed by the local chemical company so they would get a permit to stay operative. they gave him the money.

[QUOTE=DeathLich] Sorry I needed to bump this topic again, but I still need some ideas...Dottie?Rob-hin? Anybody??? [/QUOTE]

I would try to help if I understood, but Im afraid I dont.

Watch the movie "Seven" Its perfect for your situation. It will get ya in the right mindset

Hey, my name is alex, i just joined the forum, and was reading through posts and saw this. i agree with mikecooper. watch the movie seven. it deals with a killer who kills people who commit the seven deadly sins (lust, gluttony, envy, pride, and i forgot the other ones) in really bizzare and violent ways. u should be able to get ideas like that. also, have ur pc's be part of an orginization that investigates serial killers, much like the FBI's Profiling unit. (wasn't sure if u had already thought of something like that, just thought i'd go ahead and say it) that, and so that there is no doubt in the mind of any investigating party, make it obvious in the crime scene that it wasn't a suicide, for instance, a dismembered man who bled out could not hang himself from the chandelier using an extension cord. that, and use something that could possibly be at all the crime scenes, messages written in blood, some kind of repeating pattern, to cement the fact that it 's all done by the same man/group of men. hope that's helpful in any way!!!!