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I am playing as a female character, something tells me that will matter more with Atton than with HK-47.

I've been getting influence with Atton, but I don't have enough to get him to tell me about his past. All I can do is play Pazaak with him. I have been taught by him to shield my mind, though. I also have the Disciple. What events should I get him near for influence-building dialogue options?

I also think I've hit a bit of a wall with Mira, so ditto as to events.

As for HK-47, I have no idea what to do. No matter what I say, there's no effect, no light side/dark side points, no influence changes. Is there any way to get more influence with him?

For me, both Atton and Mira were location dependent. I actually had enough influence, but the right things have to happen at the right locations. Highlight if you wish to see the details:

Atton:
Take him to the refugee sector on Nar Shadda. You should be approached by two male Twileks who will fill you in on Atton's past. You can now ask him about it.

Mira:
Again go to Nar Shadda. Anywhere else, the question about her being restless seems to lead nowhere, but on Nar Shadda I was able to successfully follow it (complementing Nar Shadda might have helped). After she agrees to let you show her what Kreia showed you, you have to take her over in front of the entertainment exit where you had your little listening to Nar Shadda bit.

As far as the Disciple and HK-47, I can't help. I was massively light side by the time I repaired HK-47, so I decided to just leave him alone until my dark side game. I was also male, so thus I have no help to give on Disciple.

For disciple i made him a jedi as soon as i left the enclave. He is really easy to become a jedi. All you have to do is agree on his conversations and that's basically it. Then tell him you can teach him the ways of the force again.

I've spoken to the two Twi'leks, but Atton was not there. I just don't have enough influence to get him to tell me about his past.

As for Mira: Where do I take her? Outside the entertainment zone?

Hmm, the only place I distinctly recall gaining influence with Atton was at the airspeeder on Nar Shadda. Other than that, I think it was mainly in the conversations on Telos.

After Mira agrees to let you show her, you take her over outside the entertainment zone. I got her to agree right outside the Ebon Hawk, although I was unable to do it inside. Don't even think I had gained much influence with her at all (maybe one notification).

One other thing I saw on one of the hints/info lines during loading/saving was that high charisma can also help with influence, so maybe you should try equipping some charisma gear. I think I had a charisma around 19 when I did Mira.

Atton is really hard for me also. I'm a male and I have gotten to the point where I ask him why he left the sith and he just won't budge. Nothing seems to do the trick. I also can't seem to get anywhere with Bao-Dur. Seriously, everytime I talk to him it just says Nevermind.

I haven't even gotten him to talk about his past. Hopefully some new CHA-boosting stuff will help.

Mira and the Disciple are both Jedi now. Why the hell does the Disciple become a Consular? That would make sense if he was actually a historian, but instead he's a soldier with 10 INT and WIS. I am confused.

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haha just kill people with atton in your party and he will go "wait.. what jsut happened" .. then you say " you made the right choice" then you get influence. lol. make sure they are random innocent people too. lol. same with HK-47. he will say "i like your style master" and stuff like that. i have no idea about mira because i was dark both times. disciple is really easy you just keep talking to him and he becomes a jedi. i personally dont like disciple and would gladly accept handmaiden as a replacement she kicks ass as a jedi guardian.. and i guess the atton and HK-47 thing only works if you plan on being dark.... you could always redeem yourself after killing innocent people right? isnt that part of jedi beliefs? everyone can be saved. so.. yeah. kill innocent people and ask for forgiveness.

I've never gotten any options like that. All I can do is ask Atton about his past, and that gets me NOWHERE.

I have 17 CHA, some amount of influence with him, and I've been to all of the planets you have access to after Telos except Onderon (and thus Dxun).

the best spot is the flophouse on nar shadaa. killing everyone in there gains influence for almost all of your truly dark characters. i have 30 charisma lol.. bah. it could be higher lol.. but i always make a kinda balanced main character. its always fun to put things out of proportion for sub characters though.. especially for hanharr and handmaiden .. they both have 40+ str and rape everyone.. but i dont really use hanharr... i mean.. weigh the differences.. wookie.. or jedi. hmm.. who to pick..

Hanharr? How is one supposed to get Hanharr? My brother finished the game with a male character, and I don't think he ever got him.

As for Atton: I don't think he's dark. And how is one supposed to kill innocent civilians? There's no combat option for them, is there?

You get Hanharr if you're on the dark side when you go to Nar Shadaa.

"Innocent civilians" means the fights that you can choose to start in dialogue where they really aren't necessary. Like the Sullustan guy being bullied by the two thugs outside the cantina on Telos, the guy that yells at you for stealing from his apartment on Telos, the secretary at the Exchange on Telos, etc.

exactly. thank you for clarifying that.

Is it possible to get influence with Atton without killing innocents? Somehow I doubt it with HK-47, but Atton?

It's bloody annoying, I tells ya.

I was able to get plenty of influence while LS with Atton. I think there was one conversation about him observing you being at peace that gave influence, plus there's the airspeeder on Nar Shadda. Don't recall off-hand if there was anything else, but I had plenty to train him with once I found out about his past.

What's this airspeeder on Nar Shadaa? I'm currently on Dxun, first time. Would I be able to get to Nar Shadaa?

I fixed up an airspeeder in the Serroco section of the Refugee area on Nar Shadaa, and used it once. The airspeeders elswhere all say they're sabotaged.

[QUOTE=Sinclair]I fixed up an airspeeder in the Serroco section of the Refugee area on Nar Shadaa, and used it once. The airspeeders elswhere all say they're sabotaged.[/QUOTE]

That's the one. If you have Atton in your party when you're fixing it, when you get to the security part he volunteers and you can say "Let the expert do it" which gains some influence.

Crap. I guess I won't be getting anywhere with Atton then. I wanted to know the backstory! I mean, I've gathered what it is already, but ffs, this is annoying.

With HK-47, you can gain a good deal of influence with him by killing that mandalorian in Dxun ( the one stuck up on that ledge). Just press the button for the charges, and HK's behvior core will just glow with delight.