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I'm a little confused about the part where Visas Marr joins the party. Okay, so I've managed to defeat her and all that ... but I thought she was supposed to be a major darkside character. Instead, after I've talked to her at length about her homeworld and her Master and gained influence with her, she's maxed out light side! Yet in all the character descriptions of her (on GameBanshee and the official LucasArts site for instance) she's described as a major darksider - *and* her Master is that scary looking Sith Lord with the mask. You'd think he'd hold a little more influence ...

Just to be sure, I tried going off the Ebon Hawk with her before having a long conversation with her, and she was in a neutral position then. But this is still a little confusing, given her description as a Sith!

Can anyone help me clear the confusion? I mean it's not as if it really affects her performance or anything, and I don't exactly mind if she's lightside ... I was just a little disappointed not to have some bad-ass Sith in my party after hearing all those dark descriptions of her! (Even though my PC's a lightsider!)

She finds you because her master sent her as a scout but he underestimated you. She stays with you because she feels that you can save her either light side or save her darkside by killing her master. I think that she is nice but still darkside is because her master turned her to the darkside bit she didn't really want to. Just speculation though.

Visas Marr

If Visas is inlined with the light side, it is because you ask her if she is alright. Insted, keep your questions neutral, and then kill inocent people just for fun with just her, or her and Atton, and you will gain dark side influence with Visas.

Ah, I see. Cheers for clearing that one up guys!

also

also shes very ticked about her homeworld, and we all know about anger and the dark side

Don't know about Visas being the Sith. As soon as she joined me and I had a long conversation with her she became a Jedi Guardian and had light side points up to the top.

[QUOTE=Cunctator]Don't know about Visas being the Sith. As soon as she joined me and I had a long conversation with her she became a Jedi Guardian and had light side points up to the top.[/QUOTE]

that's handmaiden...vistas is already a sentinel.

[QUOTE=UserUnfriendly]that's handmaiden...vistas is already a sentinel. [/QUOTE]

But the Handmaiden isn't a Jedi when you first get her ... is she? I haven't played as a male PC yet but I got the impression from reading people's posts on influence that she could become one. In that case does she become a guardian? (Which is cool since I always play as a consular, Kreia's a consular and both Visas and Atton are sentinels, don't know about the others yet as I haven't got that far!)

[QUOTE=Cunctator]Don't know about Visas being the Sith. As soon as she joined me and I had a long conversation with her she became a Jedi Guardian and had light side points up to the top.[/QUOTE]If you don't know, just take her to Onderon the first time around. For me, she's way up there on the light side but she still has strong thoughts on survival of the fittest.

From what I have gathered: (highlight below for spoilers)
Atton and Visas are Sentinels
Handmaiden and Bao Dur are Guardians (I can personally confirm this)
What about Mira and Hanharr(sp)?

hmm spoiler

i dont want to spend time figuring out the uber spiffy highlight thing so i'll just do the old fashioned
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Mira is sentinel i think, i'd have to check my game and its at a friend's house right now. but hanharr cant become jedi, hes a wookie it would be sweet if he could but he cant.

how do u make ur team members into jedi?!

Have high influence with them is the main thing. Also, you'll have to talk with them a lot (find out about their back stories) and theres usually another thing that needs to be done, like talking to Twileks on Nar Shaddaa (Atton) or sparring 3 times in your underwear (Handmaiden). Don't know about the others though.

Badseed: Bao-Dur can't become a Jedi...

[QUOTE=Solusek]Badseed: Bao-Dur can't become a Jedi...[/QUOTE]

You're just not trying hard enough.

[QUOTE=Solusek]Badseed: Bao-Dur can't become a Jedi...[/QUOTE]
yes he can just takle him to a few planets with you...its atton i have prolems with...i talk to the twileks but affter wheni talk to atton about his past it says influence failure and i cant seem to gain anymore with him

You need to express trust in Atton, always choosing (where available) non-confrontational discussion options and positive, reaffirming ones.

Bao-Dur, as mentioned, takes time and effort. Your influence over him has to rise significantly, and that means taking him with you on several planetary jaunts. If you don't, he stays as he is. Frankly, I wouldn't have him any different. He's the perfect techie, and can make all sorts of lab objects outside the ship which you can't, thanks to his enormous skills set. He loses that advantage when he becomes a Jedi.

The same thing happened with me when I got Handmaiden...But Visas is a light sider beacuse you gainded a whole lot of influence on her and you are light side.See I gainded a whole lot of influence on Handmaiden so she went from uber light almost to visas.

The thing I noticed was that, in my recent dark side game, the characters I run around with slip down the dark path. Then I send them to the Ebon Hawk and run around with someone else. When I switch them back again, the former dark siders are now neutral. What is up with that?

You don't have enough Influence on them...That happened with me and atton I had a fair amount of influence and he went from Dark to neutral dark and dark evrytime I switched him in my party.