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best ranged weapon?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:46 pm
by ammama
whats the best ranged weapon in the game. im askin cos recently got the inspiration to make a ranger who puts all his energy into ranged attack. to weapon sepcialisation in a certain ranged weapon, best ranged weapon in game, feats like rapid shot. so what is it?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:41 pm
by Aldon
I would recommend rapid shot, martial weapon: bows, and the Golden Arc (+6 to hit and damage).

Crossbows, hammers, and axes aren't very rangerly. Slings don't appear to have the inferior bonuses, but would be an acceptable second choice. Darts would probably be a third choice.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:43 pm
by l__TK__l
I'd say that Dragu's Hell Bolter (heavy crossbow) or Big Black Flying-Death (greataxe). These are the ones that I have found most efficient.

TK

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:55 pm
by Aldon
[QUOTE=l__TK__l]I'd say that Dragu's Hell Bolter (heavy crossbow) or Big Black Flying-Death (greataxe). These are the ones that I have found most efficient.

TK[/QUOTE]

I agree that those are fine weapons, but they would be more appropriate for a warrior or barbarian. Specifically 1/2 orcs or dwarves (humans would be acceptable too). I just can't see a lightly armored dexerous woodsman lugging around a 20 pound crossbow or flying greataxe.

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:32 am
by Brynn
Yeah, he surely needs a fine bow. What's Golden Arc? Is it a HoF item?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:06 am
by Galuf the Dwarf
[QUOTE=Brynn]Yeah, he surely needs a fine bow. What's Golden Arc? Is it a HoF item?[/QUOTE]

Close, my dear IWD mod. Close. ;)

It's actually the non-HoF version of the Mithril Arc, which is supposedly called the Arc of Gold, according to our own equipment guide.

I've got too much time on my hands, don't I? :o ;)

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:23 am
by Brynn
But I've never came across it in the vanilla game... (or just forgot it's name...?) :confused: Hm, will have to check.

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:27 am
by Galuf the Dwarf
[QUOTE=Brynn]But I've never came across it in the vanilla game... (or just forgot it's name...?) :confused: Hm, will have to check.[/QUOTE]

I have a hunch it may be a random drop later in the game, particularly since the non-HoF version has +6 to both damage and attack bonuses. :eek:

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:11 am
by Mirk
Arc of Gold (+6 attack, +6 damage) and Mithril Arc (+7/+7) are purchased from Riki in Severed Hand, in Normal and HoF mode, respectievely.

Actually, in Normal mode, a Composite Longbow +5 (+6/+7) is a better weapon than the Arc - although it is a random item...

Now, another thing any good "Archer/Sniper" char should have is a capacity to do Bludgeoning damage, as many monsters are immune/resistant to piercing damage. This brings up the issue of a "backup" sling. And among slings, there's an ABSOLUTE winner: Sling of Pain +5: +5 attack, +9(!) damage, which is also a random drop.


As to the character build, the feats would be:
Rapid Shot - just take it at level 1, turn it on and leave it on untill you get 5 attacks/round, as it doesn't benefit you anymore
Dirty Fighting - very "in-character" with the Archer - hit them where it hurts!
Improved Critical - to make the above even deadlier
Weapon Focus/Specialization (if you take 4 Fighter levels) - for all the weapon types you use.
other than that, your choice.

as to the race/class, I strongly recommend mixing in some Rogue levels, as the Archer is a perfect candidate to be the partie's rogue (high Dex, and most of Rogue's work is done outside of combat - opening/disarming/etc.) Whatever you decide on, DON'T get tempted to add spellcasting capabilities to your Archer - from the first round of combat up to the last, he should be shooting the approriate ammunition at the partie's biggest threat (usually spellcasters).

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:49 pm
by ammama
kl

what do hellbolter and big black flying death do?

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:00 am
by Mirk
Hellbolter is a crossbow that does 3 attacks/round (Normal version) 4 attacks/round (HoF version), with +3 or so to hit/damage. It's best used by characters that have a low BAB progression, and don't have Rapid Shot

Big (Black Flying) Death is a +1/+1d6 slashing / +3/+1d10 slashing, returning two-handed throwing axe - very efficient in the hands of a high-STR char. It will use Rapid Shot, if you take it.

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:15 am
by Brynn
You'll find more detailed info here.

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:15 am
by ammama
kl

thnx guys. so hav u got ny advice on the creation of my uba kl ranger character? not only stats n class n race n skills n stuff, but also gender, bio, and name, and portrait

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:40 am
by Kblitz
The returning Greataxe imo

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:31 pm
by Erenor
Big Death...just the image of a huge flying axehead is pretty cool.