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Several questions

Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 4:34 pm
by Melondar
Sorry the thread topic wasn't more specific, but the questions are kind of unrelated, and I didn't want to go creating 5 different threads.

Anyway, the first question is about a bit of a bug I've been experiencing - a lot of the time when I attempt to talk to an NPC, it will tell me they're too busy to talk to me, even when I have to talk to them in order to progress whichever quest I'm doing. Usually after I save and reload they are no longer "busy" and I can move on, but this has been getting extremely annoying, and in one case - with the "knights of solamnia" in the planar sphere, I had to spend 15 minutes saving and reloading and changing zones before he would talk to me. Does anyone know of a way to fix, or a workaround for this bug?

Second bug, not quite as annoying - For some reason, the green circles around Jaheira and Yoshimo have turned into the targeting circles (like you get when you're attacking something, only green.) No matter what I try, they won't change back to normal circles. Does anyone know how to fix it?

Third - I mentioned in another thread that Jaheira had gone off with the Harpers and wouldn't come back. Well, I reloaded from a save before she left, and now it's even stranger. Right up until that save, I had been romancing both Viconia and Jaheira, with the intention of picking Viconia. The first time I went through, Viconia decided to start talking to me right after I had been waylaid in between zones in Athkatla. When this happened, Jaheira interrupted and made me choose. So I chose Viconia, and right after the dialogue with Viconia, Meronia showed up and took Jaheira away, and she never came back. So I reloaded from before that fight, And this time when Viconia started talking to me, Jaheira never interrupted, but neither did she ever initiate any more romance conversations with me afterward. So I've gotten past the point where my main character as slept with Viconia, and yet the Romance with Jaheira still hasn't officially ended (although, like I said, it isn't going anywhere either) and Meronia still hasn't shown up. I'd like to do that quest at some point, and yes, I've done all the other quests I need to have done first. Is this all because of something I have or haven't done, or is it just a bug?

Fourth and final question(for now, anyway,) again about Viconia. I'm in Trademeet, and My reputation just hit 19, but she hasn't left yet. Is it just because I'm in a romance with her, or because I have ToB, or both, or will she leave at some point, or is it just another bug?

Thanks a lot for your help

Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 4:41 pm
by Aztaroth
Well the first bug is fixed with the patch (I think)

The second goes away after some time... I've had it myself

The others IDK

Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 4:42 pm
by fable
Download the latest bugfix--SoA, or if you've loaded in ToB, then the ToB bugfix, only. That should take care of the talking problem.

Do the targeting circles appear when you've turned into the Slayer? In combat? Or when your PC is him/herself, out of combat?

Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 5:36 pm
by dj_venom
As for the bit about her not leaving, she'll grumble for a little while and then leave. You will have a certain amount of time to lower your rep, then she will say something like you are too good, and she'll leave forever.

Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 5:47 pm
by Melondar
I'm still in chapter 2, so no slayer yet (although I do have over 120k gold coins :D ). And they each appeared just after I finished a quest (Jaheira's after the ceremony in trademeet and Yoshimo's after finishing the family feud quest in Trademeet - it may have something to do with the mayor, since he was the last person I talked to both times.)

Also, if I load the patch while I'm halfway through the game, will it screw it up in any way?

By the way, one more quick little gameplay question - I've been letting Viconia tank since she can get her AC down to -12 and has magic resistance to boot, but I've been having two little problems - first, even though she's far from being encumbered, she's the slowest person in the team, so even though she's in the front of my formation, she's usually the last one to get places unless I sit and wait for her before rushing in. Plus, even when I do get all the monsters to attack her, sometimes they go for Valygar (my main damage dealer, with Celestial Fury and the Corthala Blade) instead, and he only has a mere -2 AC. So, this is really a few different questions - Is there anyway to make Viconia walk faster, and is there any way to either keep the monsters on her or lower Valygar's AC?

Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 5:50 pm
by Melondar
Oh, and in reply to venom: Do I have to lower it to 17 or 18? And is there any way to keep her without lowering my rep? Does the fact that I'm in a romance with her (and pretty far along) change the fact that she'll leave?

Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 8:14 pm
by fable
The patch won't cause any problems.

Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 8:39 pm
by dj_venom
I can't say I'm postivite, but I believe she would leave anyway. As for what rep, you need to have it under 18, so 17 she won't leave, 18 she will leave.

Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 9:01 pm
by Melondar
Alright. I had one more question too: In the temple of Amaunator, there's a statue that talks to you, and you have to tell it the rituals - but when you press tab, you can see there's also a container in his eye, however you can't actually click on it, because it's inside of the cyan circle, so that just initiates conversation with it. Is there any way to get at whatever is inside of the statue's eye?

Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 11:04 pm
by Nimiety
Yes (although it is trapped!) - go further away from the statue until it's just outside your visual range, and that will stop the statue's "talking" circle leaving you free to manipulate the "treasure" area.

Good luck!
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 12:16 am
by Malykor
[QUOTE=Melondar]Alright. I had one more question too: In the temple of Amaunator, there's a statue that talks to you, and you have to tell it the rituals - but when you press tab, you can see there's also a container in his eye, however you can't actually click on it, because it's inside of the cyan circle, so that just initiates conversation with it. Is there any way to get at whatever is inside of the statue's eye?[/QUOTE]


I've never noticed that......

What's inside it?

Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 1:13 am
by dj_venom
Spoiler
Two Diamonds

Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:11 am
by Melondar
Yeah, I actually realized that just after I posted here.
Anyway, I have one more question. After installing the patch, Meronia arrived immediately, so I did the first quest with Jaheira. However, I only have one more quest to do before I move on to chapter 3, and it won't be long then until I arrive at Spellhold. Will Jaheira's quest progress while I'm in Spellhold or will it wait until I'm back in Athkatla before she goes away again? I don't want her leaving me when I'm halfway through Spellhold with no way to get her back until the next chapter.

Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 9:42 pm
by dj_venom
Romances are put on hold during chapters 4,5 and 7. So you should not get the Jaheira romance quest, unless you have put on a mod that permits romance in those chapters mentioned.