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I've entered Ulm and have killed everyone, including Fathien. I have the "Castle Key", and have explored all of the castle, I think, to the fullest extent. I've gone down into the tombs, and entered the water (one passageway takes you to a closed gate which you can't open, and the other takes you to a gate that's partially open, which you swim under). I've gone down the lift, and have seen and tried to open the two gates, but receive an "Item Required" message (remember that I've killed Fathien and have the "Castle Key"). I've spoken to the imprisoned thief. So now for the past 2 hours, I've just been wandering throughout the castle looking for another key ("Item Required").

What "Item Required" am I missing to open those two gates at the bottom of the lift, and where do I find it? I thought that the "Castle Key" was what would do it. Is this a bug, or am I just really missing something?

Don't need skull levers

The items you need are the skull levers. One can be found through the locked gate on the right, in the water. I forget offhand where the other is. It's too early in the morning. You don't need to open the gates though. Go back to where you jumped in the water here and on either side will be a tunnel underwater that will lead to the areas beyond either gate.






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You will need to find a button in a chamber on each side. One of these buttons leads to nice treasure, the other to the armor, which is on a glowing pedestal, can't miss it. It's not in chest.

Hi Frodo,

Well, I think I'm completely confused. I haven't been able to get through the two locked gates at the bottom of the "elevator shaft". That's where I get the "Item required".

I then go way back to what I think must be the tombs and jump in the water there. One water passage takes you to a locked gate (which has no key and I can't seem to open -- I think I need to open somewhere behind the two locked gates I mention above). And the other water passage takes you underneath a partially closed gate into another room with a chest underwater.

What should I do?

Do this

Find the room with the 4 levers. from here precoeed to the water room. as you are standing on the little piece of floor,looking straight ahead to your left and to your right (under the water) are 2 passage ways. in one of these passages is the lever you will need. follow both passages as they both lead to rooms. In one of the rooms is a loose brick you need to push to open a passage way furterh ahead.

Ok, thanks -- I'll try that. I've been all over the castle (and everyone's dead, except the roaming monsters), but I don't think I've ever seen a room with four levers (I hope its not somewhere behind the two lock gates).

I'll keep looking!

Let's see if this helps...

After you go down the sewer-like area beneath the catle using the elevators, you get two possible exits, one in front and one to the right, OK?

You need to go the one straight ahead of you, the one of the locked door in front. You'll notice two levers on each side wall.

If you pass the locked door, you'll see a watery passageway leading to a ledge, with two huge grates on each side of it. Don't swim there!

Turn either left or right (your choice), walk into the water, and swim downward. You'll see a water-filled corriodr, and you'll have to swim htrough it two the other side. You'll probably die before you make it, so either use several Potions of Healing, or use Revive.

Explore what you find on the other side, that will lead you on.

hey you guys, you are all not understanding what his problem is.

his problem is that he can't even get into the 2 doors at the bottom of that elevator. honestly i don't remember where to get that key, but i think it is called the tomb key. it's been a few days since i played this part so this is from memory, but i THINK it is in the possession of a wizard guy who is at one of the spires of the castle, i think on the northwest side. go like back to the entrance of the castle, and take the hallway that leads north, at the end of the hallway there is a spiral staircase that leads up, there is a wizard guy back there and if you fight him i think he gives you the key. not positive though

it's either that or the kid who got kidnapped has it maybe. he is easy to get to. bixby to get to him you have to go the same way that you thought was the tombs (it's not) , well you know when you are back there there is a place where the floor just falls out from under you and there is a big pool of water underneath? there are some columns in the middle of the room you can jump across and get to the other side, the kid is back there

Okay, I thought I understood everything posted above, but I am still stuck in this stupid keep. I can't locate the second lever (found one underwater, if memory is correct). Can't locate armor unless its some I accidentally put on, but I would assume even if I put it on, I would complet the quest? Still dont know where to place the levers once I find the second one. Only creatures I see now are those that spawn due to time lapsing, I have killed everything else.

Does anyone have a map showing all the 'loose stones' or hidden areas so I can determine what I have missed?

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Does anyone have a map showing all the 'loose stones' or hidden areas so I can determine what I have missed?[/QUOTE]


ok i just drew one for you, check my thread
http://www.gamebanshee.com/forums/showthread.php?p=646962#post646962

There are TWO keys. If you have the castle key, then you only have one. You also need the tomb key (I think that's what it is called). There are also TWO bosses. One is upstairs, he carries the CASTLE key, that's likely who you killed. The guy who dissaperead, chair and all, is elsewhere. He has the TOMB key. Did you kill both guys? If not, you missed something. You can't get past the gates without it.

second boss

Where is he?

Fathian's Castle

Well, You are doing better than I am... I can't even find a key to get into Fathian's Castle let alone the tombs.

Can someone please inform me where I find said key ?

Furthermore, I am completely stuck. I can't get back into Fargrove so that I can access the East side of the world map. I have to get to a lake to scrap it out with (forgot name of lake and opponant) some oriental dude to save someone else (name also forgotten)..... too many brain farts this morning.

PLEASE HELP ME ! somebody.

I have been running around the North West part of the world for 3 days and can't seem to find anything more useful. I have obtained a stone for the Bridges and several Temples where I can't do anything but fight all sorts of critters constantly. It's okay for points but no good for getting further on the map.

If it is any easier for replies, you are welcome to email me at mailto:?subject=&body=

Merci

Sorry, I just don't remember - besides which, house Fathien is huge and twisty, I wouldn't know what to tell you anyway

Just keep trying doors - he is there somewhere, and he has the key you need to get in the dungeon.

By the way, this is a dealbreaker - you gotta do it. If you don't get the armor, then you don't get to talk to the wizard, and pretty much the rest of the game hinges on all that, so... keep looking.

If it helps, I *think* that where you fought the first guy,. there was a huge set of double doors, and I think that led to the second guy. Not positive.

[QUOTE=SnowTiger]Well, You are doing better than I am... I can't even find a key to get into Fathian's Castle let alone the tombs.

Can someone please inform me where I find said key ?[/QUOTE]
You need to complete the Trial of the Ancient Elders. You mentioned in another post that you started the trial once but then went back to an earlier save. You need to complete the trial to advance any further into the game.

SWC

[QUOTE=poptart101]ok..I've done all the tunnel stuff..and got the armor, but the problem I am having is leaving the water area.....i can't get the levers to open the door to leave..am I missing something??[/QUOTE]
If you're south of the door that you opened by moving the four levers, and that door is closed, then you're stuck, and you'll have to go back to an earlier save.

SWC

Killed Fathinas Wreath - and cant leave room

Hi there,

i´m deeply depressed, cause i´ve no idea abaut how to go on.

I have killed anybody in fathians castle, opened the door in the lowest area to the hidden rooms with the stolen elven plate, but wehen i killed Fathian, i only get a second soul stone .... the room keeps locked

No idea about how getting out ..... can you help me ?

Wish you a nice weekend at the other side of the world ...

bye

Martin

POPTART ....

The same happened to me, that door was shut when i returned.

Problem is sometimes when you fight monsters under the door, then press to pick up the goodies it shuts the door as you walk through... and it cannot be opened from the lever side 8-(

Unfortunately you will have to reload a savegame BEFORE you entered that area , i hope you have one. Then make sure when you are in the lever room you dont shut the door behind you as you enter....

Clodes door at Fathian

... in the meantime i found the solution: saving games in the figth seem to close the door permanently I restartet the fight an then the door opens after i ve finished Fathian ...

bye

Martin