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Sooo... I finally got the game again, hastily unwarapped and installed it, spent a bit updating the patches and mods etc. that I had downloaded a week before.

Now I am playing the game, and during the initial fight with Brohn's ghost, I have a couple characters Energy Drained.

Having gone through the readme, I tracked down Oswald, and laid into him for a few of his magic potions... despite the fact that he's not all there >_<. Lo and behold, he doesn't appear to have any Potion of Restoration (unlimited), as the readme says he should have!

Help! What do I do?

Try going to the Temple Pavillion in the top left corner of the map. Or, sometimes you can just wait out those affects until they go away.
-ishuman

I'm not sure the effects of Energy Drain will fade away after some time...
But you can get your cursed/drained/diseased party members healed at any temple.

[QUOTE=Brynn]I'm not sure the effects of Energy Drain will fade away after some time...
But you can get your cursed/drained/diseased party members healed at any temple.[/QUOTE]


...never get drained in IWD2 - but this should be a permanent effect!

...at least in most other D&D CRPGs this is permanent and can only be healed via spell or in a temple!


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Another trick discovered was to kill that party member, then resurrect them. When they come back to life, they are cured. Just remember to re-memorize all the spells that were lost.

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Well, that sucks. I already tried all the "healing" options, at the Temple and such, and no go. It doesn't appear that there is any way, aside from dying, to cure Energy Drain. This, despite what it says in the Undead Targos readme.

Quote:
Q: I've been energy drained!

A: Oswald sells an infinite number of potions of restoration.

No, he does not! They must have caused an infinite number of tiny explosions in his brain, causing him to be a nutball!

edit for speling cus I can du it

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...not that this help much if you're still in Targos - but there are level 4/7 cleric spells called (greater) restoration which can cure this!


...best thing is not to get drained (in earlier D&D games you even loose EXP (and levels!) this way - so just a few HP isn't that worse!


...but be sure you will find healing for energy drain at some point in the game - but I'm not sure if you can get healing for this in in Targos...

...and this healing or a potion would be quite expensive for a low level party!


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another point - as you play the undead Targos mod - which is *very* hard there are a few differences

in the normal game you can't get drained in Targos - so it's quite possible that there is no healing for this in Targos available!


...and btw. how far are you already?

...and which party did you take?


...not that this will help you - just to know


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Color me confused. As with you, when I installed the Undead mod, Brohn drained the energy of my main tank. I went to Oswald and bought a potion of lesser restoration for about 155 gp. I believe it was at the end of the list of possible potions. So why you don't have it, I haven't a clue. Maybe reinstall Undead Targos?

First off, I tried reinstalling the mod, then the whole game with the mod, after backing up my characters and save game. Still no go; there is absolutely no way for me to reverse this condition in Targos at this time. Which brings me to...

Second, I made an exact duplication of your character list, SD72. I'm too rusty on the game mechanics at the moment, and figured I'd play through it once before putting together a few charcaters of my own.

I just finished clearing out the caves by the Docks last night, with three of my guys Drained. If I had known at the time, I would have killed the two 'bigger' baddies and let the skels take out my Drained pt memebers for a resurrection.

Oh, well. Time to go get killed.

OK, this is absolutely rediculous. I'm unistalling everything, and starting over again without Undead Targos. It's completely unplayable if you just randomly lose characters to a dice roll with no way of getting them back to normal. I now have five characters with Energy Drain, and it is impossible for me to continue.

[QUOTE=TybudX]OK, this is absolutely rediculous. I'm unistalling everything, and starting over again without Undead Targos. It's completely unplayable if you just randomly lose characters to a dice roll with no way of getting them back to normal. I now have five characters with Energy Drain, and it is impossible for me to continue.[/QUOTE]


...as said the undead mod is really hard especially as you go with the right party-building decision to take rogue and pals as 1st level!


a few hints how to beat the undead targos mod highlight to read:


- go for all easy battles 1st - to level up as far as possible - there are battles you can't win with a 1st level party!

- but don't leave for targos city after you have cleaned the caves and before you have done all other harbour missions as you can't do them later!

- clean the harbour but avoid to heal the guy at the peer (this is the hardest and therefore last battle on this map!

- play on normal difficulty as the targos mod is made for normal

- summon creatures / undead - as this can save your live

- reload when you get drained!

- go for the skeleton archers 1st as they can kill with a single critical hit!

- if you can turn undead things get easier - as most undead will run when you use my party build-up!

- use hide & sneak - this makes especially the battle at the light-house much easier!

- always fight at day (as you have many drows) and fight fully rested and healed!

- keep in mind that monsters lock on the 1st target thy see - so send PCs in 1st with good AC and HP and keep the bard out of range

- let the bard always play his songs!

- with the EXP from all battles (beside the one you get after you heal the guy at the peer) you can go for the caves!

- the 1st battle against the cleric could be tough - but should be doable on the level you have - then buff your party before entering - send the drows (hide) against the cleric and use all mass disabling spells and turn-undead! - the drows and pals should be immune to most spells (your own and the ones from the cleric!)

- cleaning the caves isn't that difficult as PC 6th should have good spells at this point already!

- with all this EXP you should be able to win the battle at the peer - but you need to be prepared and maybe need to run in circles with the PC the enemy has locked on! - this is not an easy battle and you might need several attempts!


- targos city is easy - be sure you get the "special arrows" from one of the palisade missions and you do all missions possible as the finale battle(s) at the palisade is by far the toughest battle you get in IWD2 (with targos mod) and you really need every level possible and much more to win this battle!


...if you decide to go on with the targos mod - I can give you a few hints for this battle if needed...

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It's not that I am having any difficulty with the Targos mod, it's just that random Energy Drain that I have absolutely no control over, and no way to stop. If it hits, it hits, if not, it doesn't. It's completely random, and as I don't have access to the Lesser Potions of Restoration that are supposed to be available from Oswald, I don't see how I can even get a character with four Cleric levels to remove the effect.

I tried the Brohn fight (and I had saved talking to buddy at the docks there for last anyways, as that's how I always went through the map before) at least two dozen times, and not once did I get through it without having at least three characters Drained. All my guys were at lvl2, and believe me, I tried throwing summoned stuff infront of them, Mage Armor, Proevil, LesserMI, etc... nothing stops it, nothing available to me in Targos reverses it.

No Undead Targos for me, until somebody can tell me why I have none of the afor-mentioned potions.

[QUOTE=TybudX]It's not that I am having any difficulty with the Targos mod, it's just that random Energy Drain that I have absolutely no control over, and no way to stop. If it hits, it hits, if not, it doesn't. It's completely random, and as I don't have access to the Lesser Potions of Restoration that are supposed to be available from Oswald, I don't see how I can even get a character with four Cleric levels to remove the effect.

I tried the Brohn fight (and I had saved talking to buddy at the docks there for last anyways, as that's how I always went through the map before) at least two dozen times, and not once did I get through it without having at least three characters Drained. All my guys were at lvl2, and believe me, I tried throwing summoned stuff infront of them, Mage Armor, Proevil, LesserMI, etc... nothing stops it, nothing available to me in Targos reverses it.

No Undead Targos for me, until somebody can tell me why I have none of the afor-mentioned potions.[/QUOTE]


not sure about the potions...-...but I can tell you how to win this fight with a good chance not to get drained - btw. some PCs should be level 3 at this fight - highlight to read:


choose a PC who:

a) has a fast movement
b) has a good AC
c) can cast MI or at least the level 1 version MMI of this spell


...this would ideally be PC 6th of my party (PC 1 works also but has no MI at this point but the barb speed bonus and a better chance not getting drained - drow!)

...give him all other buffs available from the party!

...make sure that this PC stands exactly there where Broon(sp?) appears - all other PCs should keep away!

if he appears make sure that broon locks on this PC (the level 1 MMI will help to avoid one hit!) then start to run (in circles) and always keep out of range of Broon! Broon is as dumb as the AI always is in IWD2 and keep following this PC until forever in 90% of all cases (you only need some micromanagent to keep your PC out of range of Broon!)

all other PCs use ranged weapons to bring down Broon without any risk!


1. so bring your party in position and save

2. if you get drained when Broon locks on your PC reload

3. keep this PC out of range and bring Broon down with ranged weapons


...success chance this way without getting drained: at least 80%!

...hope this helps!


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I suppose you could always cheat a couple of potions in using Dale Keeper (not really cheating since they should be available), since the game doesn't seem to provide them. But I'm not sure how you would go about that.

I went a different route for killing Brohn. I was still level 1 as well, but the characters were a bit different. Specifically my decoy.

Deep Gnome level 1 monk, str 10 dex 18 con 10 int 15 wis 20 cha 1
AC = base 10 mage armor (from sorcerer) +4 DG +4 dex +4 monk wisdom +5 = 27 In addition, I used Mirror Image and Blur (DG abilities) for Brohn. Most of the damage came from Magic Missiles from my 3 wizard/sorcerers.

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should work also - but he hasn't such a build!

...btw. I don't like the JUPP pure decoy builds

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Damn it, I'm willing to give this Dale Keeper a shot. I really want to play through with Undead Targos, and I feel a *slight* bit cheated >_<! I'm going to figure out what the item code is for the potions, and drop the gold that it would have cost me to buy any that I use. Is that kosher enough to not be "cheating"?

[QUOTE=TybudX]Damn it, I'm willing to give this Dale Keeper a shot. I really want to play through with Undead Targos, and I feel a *slight* bit cheated >_<! I'm going to figure out what the item code is for the potions, and drop the gold that it would have cost me to buy any that I use. Is that kosher enough to not be "cheating"?[/QUOTE]


...only minor cheating from my point of view

...but as said - you can win this battle without getting drained!

...but if you have done this battle a few hours ago and don't want to load an old-save or don't have even one I would suggest to use Dale Keeper!


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Ha Ha Ha! PLD = Divine Health!

I don't know if this had anything to do with it, but I noticed neither of my Pallys were getting Drained, so I just threw both of them in front of the mobs that were doing the Draining. Seemed to work very well.

Yay ^^.