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Jaheira in TOB
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2001 8:14 am
by beaver_cheese
Okay, got a couple of questions here; one, is there any continuation to the Jaheira romance storyline in TOB if you've already gotten the harper pin? Also, when Jaheira leveled up, I tried placing her skill point into two weapon skill (there was one skill point there already), but found that I couldn't. Is this a bug? Thought that she wouldn't have such restrictions seeing that she's a fighter/druid. Thanks in advance
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2001 8:29 am
by Sabre
Yes, her romance will continue in ToB.
Not so sure about the proficiency thing, I don't have ToB, so cannot see if they have changed anything. But in SoA, Fighter/Druid can have 3 points in 2 Weapons Style. So it might be a bug.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2001 8:36 am
by beaver_cheese
Erm, could I ask, what's supposed to happen to the romance storyline in TOB? I got that 'you're still important to me line', and I heard about that spectre appearing event, but is there anything else? I've completed Watcher's Keep, and am in the Mountains area, but still no new dialogues. Please don't be another bug... Please don't be another bug... Is it a bug?
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2001 8:44 am
by Sabre
Sorry, can't help you with that. I still don't have ToB yet, read from other threads that all the romances continue. Try looking at the JaheiraRomanceActive global, either Shadow Keeper or use CLUAConsole:GetGlobal("JaheiraRomanceActive","GLOBAL") - this should be at 2 - can't really help you with anything else, yet.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2001 8:44 am
by beaver_cheese
Well, thanks anyway
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2001 11:08 am
by Fatale
Hey there, you cheesy beaver!! *LOL* How is ToB so far?? I still can't get my hands on a copy yet over here ...
And I didn't know you were an EXALTED MEMBER here, wow, and this is the first time I see you posting here ...
Anyway, this is just to say hi (too lazy to private message you), and plenty of muaks!
Oh, and have you tried the IEEP yet?
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2001 1:22 pm
by 45th Parallel
I’m having the same problem beaver_cheese. Pretty early on in ToB, I go the same dialog with Jahiera (the “you're still important to me”). I think your line is something like “I still need you, you keep me grounded.”
Anyway, I haven’t had another dialog with her since then and I’m almost done with watchers keep. My CLUAConsole:GetGlobal("JaheiraRomanceActive","GLOBAL") is still at 2 according to shadowkeeper. My (“Lovetalk”,”LOCALS”) is at 71. I left the game on pause all night last night, but no dialog this morning. There must either be a bug, or some scripted even has to occur for the romance to go any further. Man, I sure hope it isn’t a bug, I went through a lot of trouble to get her romance to work out in SoA.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2001 1:28 pm
by beaver_cheese
Huh, so it seems to be a common problem, eh? Hey, anyone out there have any insights into this little matter? We're desparate here! Again, thanks in advance.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2001 1:53 pm
by beaver_cheese
*Ahem!* A beaver that has cheese does NOT imply that it is cheesy. And I didn't know when I became an exalted member; just kinda happened, you know? BTW, Zoots is back in Johor. Go bug 'em! Talk to you later!
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2001 2:13 pm
by Wycen Adamantite
First, I'm going to include spoilers, so if you don't want to be spoiled, stop reading.
I have also left the game both on pause and unpaused, gone to get lunch, drive to the bank, my friend's house, and come back to find a dialogue not from Jaheira, but from Imoen or Nalia. However, from reading other posts and my own experience, I think I have an idea.
They have changed how the romance dialogues work.
For example, I've gotten the first dialogue for Jaheira and her keeping me grounded, and in testing I've also gotten the Viconia first dialogue.
Now, my current game is with Jaheira as the romance interest. When I made it to Saradush, I spoke to every NPC, even those without names. When I spoke to Harlot, I was given the dialogue option, "How much for your services?", not word for word, but that was the, eh, thrust of the conversation. When I persisted in asking her how much, Jaheira then piped up and said, "My love, I know you are only trying to lighten the mood, but you shouldn't be saying such things." I then had to option to say, I was just joking or "She's be more interesting than you, now get lost!"
Now, I of course chose the happy option and went about my business. I then ran into the elves being threatened by Gromnir's soldiers and decided to play with the dialogue, so I chose the dialogue that started a fight. Jaheira and Minsc both dropped out of my party, Jaheira saying she could no longer be at my side, and they attacked me. So, I ended up reloading. This time when I spoke to Harlot I kept away from the "how much" bit and if I remember, Jaheria said nothing.
Next, when I was hanging around in the abyssal fortress, Viconia initiated a dialogue with Imoen which was basically like this:
Viconia: How come you've never shown your brother the proper appreciation for saving your soul?
Imoen: Huh? Like what?
Vic: You should be his slave.
Imoen: WHAT!
Vic: You should service his every whim. He's only your half-brother and by a god at that. You should do everything to make him happy.
Imoen: It's not like that. I don't know about him, but I just think of him as a brother. I would die for him. What about you? My brother has saved your life many times, what would you do for him?
Vic: Uh...that wasn't the question, nevermind.
End of dialogue. However, someone else posted their experience with this dialogue saying that Viconia was their character's romance interest. Instead of Viconia trailing off and not answering the question, she says she loved him and would die for him.
So, I think some of the romance dialogues are buried within the other dialogue for NPC's. I've yet to get out of Saradush, I just killed Gromnir last night, so I'll be hoping for another dialogue somewhere in the next area.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2001 4:57 pm
by beaver_cheese
Well now, never tried taking up that harlot on her offer. I'll give it a whirl, thanks. And since we're on the subject, does anyone know if there are any additional dialogues to the Viconia, Aerie, and Anomen romances when you install TOB?
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2001 4:58 pm
by cheesemage
yes all romances are continued
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2001 5:10 pm
by beaver_cheese
If anyone can come up with more specific dialogues concerning Jaheira, do let me know. Much thanks.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2001 6:11 pm
by TheHellion
I've completed ToB, and the Jaheira romance. Sadly, there isn't much to it. I think there were about 5 or 6 dialogues, and they were mostly reassuring her that you'd remain the same person, regardless of what transpires.
Rather than leave your computer running for hours on end, or fiddling with global variables, an easier method to speed things along is to enable cheat keys through the baldur.ini file. If you'd like, I can give you instructions on doing that. Once enabled, you simply press Ctrl+I and you'll initiate a random dialogue. It won't always be Jaheira, but it's a lot of fun regardless.
Jaheira's last two dialogues are event triggered; one occurs after you complete the final test in the Pocket Plane by defeating the Ravager. The other is after you've defeated Melissan, and you're faced with the decision of ascending to godhood, or renouncing the taint and becoming a mortal. That's about it. Jaheira doesn't have many surprises in store for you, unfortunately.
[ 07-02-2001: Message edited by: TheHellion ]
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2001 6:10 am
by beaver_cheese
Hey, if it's not too much trouble to give me the cheat keys, then fire away! I finally got a couple of dialogues. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they seem be triggered by meeting that Master Wraith.