Outsiders& healing
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:52 pm
Does anyone know how an outsider heals damage?For example hoe does an earth elemental heals damage?
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Outsiders& healing
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:52 pm
My guess is that an outsider heals like a normal creature. Since a monk when reaching level 20 is treated as an outsider, and can heal damage with normal healing spells. I'm not sure about real outsiders though, but it sounds logical
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:19 pm
Any -living- creature which includes ALL outsiders can be healed normally. Undead and lifeless creatures such as Constructs cannot be healed.
Think about the elemental savant class, it turns you into an element at the end and you can still be healed normally.
Think about the elemental savant class, it turns you into an element at the end and you can still be healed normally.
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:41 am
^Wrong. Constructs can benefit from a cure spell just fine. Undead, however, can't.
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:17 am
[QUOTE=Mr.Waesel]^Wrong. Constructs can benefit from a cure spell just fine. Undead, however, can't.[/QUOTE]
The Green star adept cannot be healed, instead they have to use a repair spell. Was that what you meant?
The Green star adept cannot be healed, instead they have to use a repair spell. Was that what you meant?
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:48 am
"Constructs are immune to any effect that allows a fortitude saving throw."
This is true, thusly the inevitables can be healed by magic. However, next time I will specify what I mean. I meant golems, mainly because most constructs are golems. Golems are immune to any magic that allows spell resistance. Cure light wounds allows SR, thusly they cannot be healed by this.
This is true, thusly the inevitables can be healed by magic. However, next time I will specify what I mean. I meant golems, mainly because most constructs are golems. Golems are immune to any magic that allows spell resistance. Cure light wounds allows SR, thusly they cannot be healed by this.
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:51 am
thanxs. . .i asked bacause rassurection & similar spells doesn't work...
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:28 am
[QUOTE=Siberys]"Constructs are immune to any effect that allows a fortitude saving throw."
This is true, thusly the inevitables can be healed by magic. However, next time I will specify what I mean. I meant golems, mainly because most constructs are golems. Golems are immune to any magic that allows spell resistance. Cure light wounds allows SR, thusly they cannot be healed by this.[/QUOTE]
They can be ordered to lower their SR and be cured just fine.
[QUOTE=Fiberfar]The Green star adept cannot be healed, instead they have to use a repair spell. Was that what you meant?[/QUOTE]
No.
This is true, thusly the inevitables can be healed by magic. However, next time I will specify what I mean. I meant golems, mainly because most constructs are golems. Golems are immune to any magic that allows spell resistance. Cure light wounds allows SR, thusly they cannot be healed by this.[/QUOTE]
They can be ordered to lower their SR and be cured just fine.
[QUOTE=Fiberfar]The Green star adept cannot be healed, instead they have to use a repair spell. Was that what you meant?[/QUOTE]
No.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:06 am
The overall idea here is that cure/heal spells consist of positive energy, the same thing that sustains life and spirits. Anything with life and spirit can be healed by positive energy spells. Constructs are not alive per se, which is why Raise Dead and Resurrection don't work on them. But they do consist of an elemental spirit bound to a fabricated body, and that spirit can be healed. (Likewise, many Outsiders can be healed, too.)
The game does a poor job of making that consistent with spell immunities, and with the practical aspects of how a spirit could be healed in a body, like one made of iron, that presumably could not. But DMs can work that out.
The game does a poor job of making that consistent with spell immunities, and with the practical aspects of how a spirit could be healed in a body, like one made of iron, that presumably could not. But DMs can work that out.