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*~* minor spoiler *~* Seduction : useful or not ?

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:32 pm
by Lunaida
I am about to start the second round of playing the Vampires and this time I want to have a very seductive character - for the fun of it - :D
I know that its better to invest in Persuation , but I wanted to know if you can play the game the same way with Seduction instead of Persuation ? Or at least somehow as good as ...
Also, I want to play a Malkavian this time, and is it a good idea to invest in seduction for a Malkavian ? Considering how mad they are ! If not, which clan is better for investing Seduction in ?
And finally, is it more fun to play a seductive character or a Malkavian ? :D
Ohhhh, and one more thing, if you have a really high Seduction score, can you seduce the big bosses like you do with Persuation ? Or for example the gargolye or the Giovannies ?
Thanks a lot :D

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:39 pm
by Lady_Lithium
Playing a seducive Malkavian (female) is a lot of fun. You can't use seduction and persuation in exactly the same way; seduction is more geared towards blood while persuation is geared towards experience. The only 'problem' you might incounter with a seductive Malk is whether to seduce or dement.

You can't (to my knowledge) seduce any of the bosses, but I haven't played a female character in a while.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:48 pm
by Anaximander
Seduction isn't as useful as persuasion, but it will get you by. I recommend putting 3 points into Scholarship. This combined with the one starting point in Charisma (for all clans except Nosferatu) will give you a persuaion of 4, which is good enough for most people.

The biggest advantage of seduction is that you can use it on those girls at the bars in night clubs as well as protitutes on the street and get a free drink without fear of a masquerade violation. The girls in the clubs require different levels of seduction depending on what part of the city they're in with Santa Monica being the easiest and China Town being the most difficult. Prostitutes require a seduction feat of at least 7.

As far as bosses go - No, you can't seduce them.

The most obvious clan to be seductive with is Toreador. They can start the game with 3 points in Appearance and Subterfuge, which gives you a seduction feat of 6 right from the beginning. Second best at seduction is Ventrue. They can start with 3 points in Apperance and 2 in Subterfuge, if I remember correctly. Malkavian starting stats are are more intellectual than social, so if you go Malk you'll have to work harder to get your seduction feat up.

If you've enable the cheat console, you can also enable the character histories. This is a somewhat buggy feature, as it was never fully completed, but it does give you some more options. A female Toreador with the Decadant Enchantress history can start the game with a seduction feat of 8 (1 bonus point in appearance and 1 in subterfuge). There are some other histories that swap the priority of your starting stats, which can help the less social/attractive clans with their seduction as well.

So there you have it. My observations on the Seduction feat. ;)

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:21 pm
by TonyMontana1638
I suppose seduction with a sexy malkavian or something would be quite fun, but I honestly never used it; its only use is for extra blood and the occasional dialog option (though if you're as vain as I am you can put points in just so you don't think of your character as hideous :cool: ). As for persuasion I found it very helpful in dialog options and would put a few points in it.

And no, you can't seduce any of the bosses... Though that would be an interesting way to deal with Lacroix :)

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:08 am
by Lunaida
Thanks everyone !
I think I will concentrate on Persuation with my Malkavian and then when the game is finished , I will start once again with a Toreador and concentrate of Seduction :D