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Glitch with D'Arnise Keep, and Request (Spoilers)

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:51 am
by Aramant
I completed the D'Arnise Keep quest a good while ago, and finally got the trigger for the funeral just recently. I checked the walkthrough to see what the next step in Nalia's quest is, and saw that going to the Keep again would trigger Isea to arrest her. So I went.

The little Roenall manservant by the drawbridge greeted me with his charming "Sune's patience, not another one", and I went inside... only to find that the interior was still in troll-mode. I actually fought and killed two trolls inside, even though I made very thorough rounds of the Keep and made sure to eliminate everything when I originally did the quest. Additionally, even though I've passed many in-game days since I finished the quest, items I'd dropped on the ground are still there. If it matters, I'm playing a ranger, so the Keep isn't my stronghold.

Anycats, I was wondering if there was a way to CLUA the correct Keep map into existence, and if so, if someone could tell me what the coding for it is. In a "CLUA For Dummies" format, if possible; I've never used it before, but I figure this warrants a bit of deus ex machina.

Thanks.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:27 am
by Aramant
For a little more clarification, the De'Arnise Keep troll quest HAS been completed. The problem as I see it is that the area map for the Keep hasn't switched from the one for the quest to the one for post-quest. I think I recall hearing that the actual map itself changes. If so, mine didn't.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:39 am
by dj_venom
I know one way of checking.

See if you can access the forge where the Flail of the Ages is made. In troll mode you can, in post-troll, you cannot.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:50 am
by Csonka
You can't even enter the keep after completing it, if it isn't yours, as far as i know.

edit: the map only changes if you accept the stronghold, elsewise the only things that change on the map are the following: drawbridge gets raised, secret entrance blocked off, if you are a fighter and didnt except the keep, then a guy from the Roenalls should be standing outside of the drawbridge informing you that the land is theirs now.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:12 am
by dj_venom
Yes, but when you do the Nalia quest, the Keep is then opened. He is unsure of whether the game has recognised this as such. So trying the secret entrance as mentioned is also a good idea.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:57 pm
by Aramant
Also, Isea Roenall simply isn't there. The manservant at the gate is; Roenall is not. The servant you meet just inside the secret entrance is still there as well, telling me I should get a move on or the trolls will smell me. But I'll check about the forge and secret entrance anyway, though I'm fairly certain it's still the troll map.

My question is how can I change it over with CLUA, if at all? Or could I just CLUA Roenall into the place to arrest Nalia?

Edit: Or is the walkthrough wrong, and does Roenall just arrest her randomly?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:02 pm
by Aramant
Okay. I can't enter the Keep through the secret entrance, but I can exit by it. I guess that means the exterior map has changed over, but the interior one is still bunk.

I also camped inside and was ambushed by yuan-ti.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:35 pm
by Aramant
Update: I just camped out in the Keep courtyard, and Nalia got arrested. Thanks to everyone who offered input.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:02 pm
by mr_sir
it doesn't matter where you are to get nalia arrested as i have had her arrested while wandering through the government district before. don't think i've ever been back to the keep during nalia's arrest or rescue except when i have taken it as a stronghold, which is rare as i prefer playing magic types.