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Stuck on 2 quests - bug in game?

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 4:12 pm
by steve29
okay... any help appreciated.

I'm stuck on the Bodhi's lair quest... I've destroyed everything in the lair and popped 2 coffins with stakes. However, when I go back to the grand guild master, he acts as if I did not complete the quest. Note that I killed everyone and did not engage in any dialog. From browsing around this board, I know that there is an elven village somewhere-- but it doesn't show up on my map-- I guess I need to get some holy water from them... but I have no leads on where this village is or whether that will be all that is necessary to complete the quest for the shadow theives...

2nd issue... I went on a quest to search for the fallen paladins for helm... kinda destroyed them all without a dialog (i guess I was a bit impatient) anyway, the guy at helm doesn't seem to recognize that I wasted his dudes... is this another bug?

thanks....

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 4:26 pm
by Chrissy
Not quite sure what you mean with the first one, but the second one is quite easy. No, not a bug. The guy you were actually after was not among the first group of paladins, you had to get something from the order for one of the other fallen paladins to get him to come. You kinda screwed up that quest... Image

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 4:47 pm
by steve29
okay.. that makes sense for the second quest... but Bohdi's lair...

what am I missing to get rid of the evil there... beyond killing all the people and staking the two vampire beds?

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 4:52 pm
by Omar
Did you go down the stairs and clear the lower level of Bodhi's lair?

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 4:55 pm
by T'lainya
Are you in Ch3 or Ch6? The elves don't come into it until Ch6. In Ch 3 do what Omar said and one of the vamps should start a dialogue.

[This message has been edited by T'lainya (edited 01-27-2001).]

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 4:59 pm
by Drakron Du´Dark
Three Coffins need a stake on it.
You are one short, dont worry its on the same room and looks like the others.


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"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not became a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss gazes into you..."
Friedrich Nietzsche

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 5:02 pm
by steve29
ooh.. that sucks...

I think I toasted everyone before they had a chance to speak... jeesh.

What a flaw... give monsters the advantage just in case they might want to speak to you...

This may have screwed the game up for me... and have to restart... any suggestions... none of the vamps said a thing before I destroyed them....

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 5:09 pm
by T'lainya
Hmm..did you go into the center room with the big table? To the right are 2 passages. The southern one leads to a room with spikes on the floor. the northern one goes to a small area with4 bllod pools on the sides. Thats where one of the vamps should have said something.After his dialogue he goes back to the spike room. Did you go abck in there?

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 5:10 pm
by Lare
calm down man. That elven village thing comes into play in chapter 6. Don't worry about it just yet. You are to kill everyone in the first floor, stab the coffins, they're all in the same room, with stakes, then proceed to the lower level and kill everyone in there. After that if i remember correctly you have to waste one more vampire in the upper room and stab him too in his coffin.

just make sure you've wasted everyone in the vampire lair and that you've staked them coffins.

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 5:14 pm
by steve29
unfortunately.... he kept on killing me, so I sent some thugs in after him (after I recovered from a save) to kill him...

He never had a chance to escape...

I went into the spiked room and walked around (painfully).. no one there...

I think I am gonna haveta start over -- bummer!!!

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 5:14 pm
by steve29
unfortunately.... he kept on killing me, so I sent some thugs in after him (after I recovered from a save) to kill him...

He never had a chance to escape...

I went into the spiked room and walked around (painfully).. no one there...

I think I am gonna haveta start over -- bummer!!!

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 5:30 pm
by Omar
I you killed the last vampire (in the spiked room, after clearing the lower level) then you should just stake him in his coffin.
To avoid all the traps in the spiked room:STICK TO THE WALLS OF THAT ROOM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE!

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 5:47 pm
by steve29
I only found two coffins to the left on the top level.. are there more?

the boat in the lower level was empty...

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 5:55 pm
by Omar
Never mind the boat, that is only important in CH6 Image
If you killed the vampire in the spiked room, stake his coffin; it stands in the same room where the other two are, along the southern wall.

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 6:06 pm
by steve29
I just walked the entire two levels of the vampire lair... no vampires... for some reason I don't get the same cursor I did for the other coffins for the south coffin and cannot stake it (cursor doesn't change to the sword). The only "living" thing left in the area is the Lassal creature in the main entryway... although I cannot talk to it and cannot kill it... he doesn't respond...

any ideas?

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 6:10 pm
by Omar
Ouch! Lassal is the one who must end in the third coffin! If all had went correctly, he should have led you to the lower levels and finally challenged you to meet him in the spiked room upstairs....

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 6:14 pm
by steve29
okay.. so it is a game flaw...

can you think of any way around it? I am open to using a cheat or tweak here (instead of starting over my game) it was quite a while back when I began this quest.

Thanks for your responses tho.. I at least now know I am not missing something obvious...

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 6:19 pm
by Drakron Du´Dark
well,maybe not. Make sure that you are not invisible, protected from undead or hiding in shadow.
Lassal must give a speach and in order to do that he must see you.

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"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not became a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss gazes into you..."
Friedrich Nietzsche

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 6:20 pm
by steve29
I surrounded Lassal and hit him with about 5000 damage without a response.. definately a game bug..

anyone know a workaround so my game can continue?

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 6:24 pm
by steve29
he won't talk to anyone in my group.... e just stands there...