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Emotional Therapy through Music (Spam all you want)
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:28 am
by CM
I am not sure if you have met this kind of person before, I personally met his type once getting to Europe. One of my friends had a very bad break up, girlfriend cheated etc. etc. You know the story. The guy is extremely emotionally sensitive. Overly in my opinion. Also something which is odd in my opinion but music seems to have a great affect on his moods and his ability to cope with situations. I have noticed he uses music and lyrics to overcome his problems 90% of the time. He has in one serious case sat in his room for 7 hours and listened to just one song over and over again. A couple of days later he was
"moving on".
Anyway this whole fiasco as it always is with my friend. They run their own real life soap opera. Sometimes i feel really great that i left Geneva due to the insane amounts of drama they create.
Anyway back on topic. I was thinking of helping my friend out by sending him a msuic CD which had a few songs which would affect his mood and make life easier for him to move on. Being emotionally sensitive and the like he is taking this extremely hard. Extremely extremely hard.
So I basically need songs which will help him tell the girl to get lost and move on. Rock music affects him the most. Mainly 80s stuff. Power ballads in this case would make the mosts sense in my opinion. I have:
1. Posion - Alice Cooper
2. Here I go again - Great White
I also have as a last resort I ****ing hate you by God Smack and the I hate you song by Puddle of Mudd.
So I need more songs along the lines mentioned above. Power Ballads would work best. No stuff like Firehouse's You hurt me so much or whatever that odd song was.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:41 am
by Lestat
Umm. I'm not really familiar with the examples you mention, neither with the term power ballad.
So, are you looking for:
- songs to get him even more down, so it becomes a cathartic experience and he comes through it wept clean.
- or songs to help him express angry feelings of loss and being abandoned and have him rage his way through the episode?
In the first case I know of no better song than "Slowly goes the night" by Nick Cave.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:44 am
by CM
Both would work Lestat. Oh yes if anybody can explain to me how to help him it would be great. His extreme dependency on music to help him cope freaks me out a bit. So if you want to turn this into a serious discussion go ahead. As long as i get some songs.
The only problem I have with the first one is i don't want to jump off the edge into a pit full of vipers if you catch my drift.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:45 am
by Juniper
"Nobody's Fool" by Cinderella....
"I Hate Everything About You" - Ugly Kid Joe
I do have a list of "songs to sob" to if need be as well, but maybe those are for another time.
You being a caring friend will be of comfort to your friend.....
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:15 am
by Lestat
Brainstorming here...
"I hate you so much" by Kelis, but that might not really work since it's sung by a female

(were talking about a guy dumped by a girl, right?).
"I want you" by Elvis Costello is a good one if there's a third person in the game. "Oh no, my darling, not with that clown")
It also depends what type of music he normally likes of course
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:24 am
by ghostedwolf
two things since you want songs ill do that part first then ill get deep.
right now all i can think about is ac/dc for some reason the song tnt just gets me pumped may help get his mind off things also you may try and convince him to try some classical music. i know its not what you asked but its soothing (in my opinion anyway).
next its time to get deep with wolfy. have you tried to get your freind to talk to a therapist. dont know what country he is in, but most have free clinics that he can go to see a staff doctor. now you may or may not think this is a stupid thing but just go with me on this. someone to talk to even if its you may help alot and letting him know that your their when hes feeling like crap could help alot. music seems to be his escape (me i use video games) as long as he is able to come back to reality and fuction (and i hate to use this next word but i cant think of anything else to use) normally, the music might actually be a good thing. just if you feel its going to far maybe its best if he saw some kind of therapist and go from there. hope i helped and didnt overstep my bounds
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:25 am
by VonDondu
Personally, I think that any positive effects from music that "helps you resolve to move on" are short-lived at best, and by definition, they certainly don't help you get your mind off of your problems. So I would rather listen to music that takes my mind completely off of my problems and puts me in a happy frame of mind. Music that makes your foot start tapping and certain kinds of high-energy rock music work best for me. So I recommend a few "party songs" by K.C. and the Sunshine Band. They might even make your friend feel like he can go out and find someone who will dance with him.
"That's the Way (I Like It)"
"Get Down Tonight"
"Shake Shake Shake (Shake Your Booty)"
"Boogie Shoes"
It's impossible to feel depressed when you listen to those first two. George Michael's "I Want Your Sex" falls in the same category. Spinal Tap can also change your mood in a hurry.
As an alternative, there are some great songs to listen to when you're angry at the world. My favorites are "Who Are You" by The Who and "Battle of the Mounds" from the soundtrack to Conan the Barbarian. "Whip It" by Devo also works surprisingly well.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:43 am
by Lestat
@ Von Dondu: for me it's absolutely the opposite, when I'm down I just can't listen to happy music like "That's the way (aha aha) I like it" or "Jungle Boogie" by Hot Chocolate because it contrasts to much with my mood and gets me utterly irritated. I usually need music that chimes in with my mood. When I'm down I need to wallow in my misery and self-pity, perhaps on "There is a Light That Never Goes Out" by The Smiths. Agreed it's only up until the moment you become ridiculous in your own eyes and short term, but I just can't stand happiness & up beat things when I'm really down and need to go through a dark tunnel of utter self-pityingly wailing "why me?"'s to come out back in the light.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:39 am
by dragon wench
I think Von Dondu has the sensible approach here, and I truly wish mine were similar.
However, I am much like Lestat in this regard. The music I play almost always reflects my mood. If I am feeling down, or if I am in pain (emotional) I have a need to fully explore it and linger. Only when I have satisfied that instinct, and held my agony, can I move forward. I suspect this is probably not healthy, especially since music, perhaps more than anything else, has a profound effect on me, but it is the way I function.
If I'm down and I hear something happy, I only become highly irritable, more cynical, and misanthropic.
I wish I could offer some suggestions in terms of actual music, but at present I can't think of too much

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:46 pm
by Bloodstalker
hmmmm, can't think of much off the top of my head, but:
Heaven Sent- Dokken
Heartbreak Station- Cinderella
Dirty Love- Thunder
Fool For your Lovin'- Whitesnake
House of Broken Love- Great White
Stolen Prayer -Alice Cooper
Can't think of any others right now.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:52 pm
by VonDondu
Well, if you want a list of songs that will help someone wallow in his own self-pity, I have several suggestions.
"Since I've Been Loving You" by Led Zeppelin
"I'm Gonna Crawl" by Led Zeppelin
"How Can You Mend a Broken Heart" by the Bee Gees
Brahms' Symphony No. 3, Third Movement
Poco allegretto
"Nothing Compares 2 U" by Sinead O'Connor
"Every Breath You Take" by The Police
"When She Loved Me" by Sarah McLachlan
"Love Hurts" by Nazareth
"You're No Good" by Linda Ronstadt
"Mother" by Pink Floyd
"Gloomy Sunday" by Billie Holiday
"I Don't Care Anymore" by Phil Collins
"Mama" by Genesis
and nearly all of Bread's greatest hits, including "Aubrey", "Diary", "If", "Lost Without Your Love", etc.
As comedian Richard Jenni once said,"It's love songs, love songs, love songs six billion hours a day, I am so damned sick of love songs."

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:21 pm
by Lestat
Well you know what they say: misery loves company.

We'll hear from Fas what he wants, but I seem to understand that happy wasn't it...
I don't really have suggestions within the more Hard Rock balladdy things which Fas seems to be after but the following are quite nice misery songs:
"Roses" dEUS
"I Know It's Over" The Smiths (well... and at least half of the rest of their songs

)
Quick Selection of Nick Cave
"The Moon Is in the Gutter"
"Watching Alice"
"Slowly Goes the Night"
"Your Funeral, My Trial"
"I'm Gonna Kill That Woman" (cover)
"People Ain't No Good"
"The Weeping Song"
... and many more...
I'm gonna dig in my music collection and find a few more of other artists.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:25 pm
by Luis Antonio
Call me weird:
Baldur's gate soundtrack,
Chrono trigger soundtrack,
Icewind dale soundtrack.
They instill me emotion, lots of.
I also like:
Queen:
Who wants to live forever,
Headlong,
The show must go on.
Millencolin:
Black Eye,
Kemp,
Kingwood.
Filter:
One
Hey man nice shot
Iron maiden:
The number of the beast,
The ghost of the navigator (yes).
Pulse Ultra:
Build your cages,
Tired,
Despot
There are more and more musics. I like having the proper soundtrack for the moment always handy

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:26 pm
by Fiona
Luis, you're weird

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:27 pm
by Luis Antonio
[QUOTE=Fiona]Luis, you're weird

[/QUOTE]
Talk to the hand

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:27 pm
by Kalashnikova
HMMMM...
Perhaps he would feel much better if he used his rage/sorrow and created his own song...
But then agian, I havent a clue what his talents are, or if he can even play/sing. It always seems to work for me though when I head down into my dark basement and and mix some electronic music... (preferrably with a throbbing beat and arpeggiator)
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:50 pm
by Curdis
Taillights Fade - Buffalo Tom - circa 1992 - Curdis !
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:21 pm
by Yeltsu
The Cranberries - Zombie
Pink Floyd - Wish you were here (who knows?)
Oldboy OST - The last waltz (really great for just floating away.. the movie might make him even more depressed tho)
Moby - New Dawn Fades
Alan Silvestri - Forrest Gump suite (forrest gump main theme)
Nick Cave - Abbatoir Blues
----||--- - There she goes my beutiful world
Coldplay - Fix you
I used the last one to cope with the aftermath of a bad relationship.. kinda backfired though since every time I hear that song i instantly think of that girl. It worked wonders right afterwards though
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:46 pm
by Denethorn
I'm with Lestat and DW in that I like music that accompanies my mood. You want to fuel your emotions; I occasionally wish artists would release themed albums - hate it when you have a song for a certain mood followed by a song for the complete opposite. I digress, from my own iTunes

:
Papa Roach - She Loves Me Not
Dope - With Or Without You
Dope - Kimberly's Ghost
Muse - Hysteria
Bon Jovi - You Give Love A Bad Name
Maybe, Too Young To Fall In Love by Mötley Crue
I'm not really into the angsty anti-love theme. I generally wallow in self pity, there Chris Isaak and Jeff Buckley etc. are far more satisfying

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:48 pm
by VonDondu
[QUOTE=Denethorn]I generally wallow in self pity, there Chris Isaak and Jeff Buckley etc. are far more satisfying

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Chris Isaak is great.
San Francisco Days and
Heart Shaped World are his best albums, in my opinion. "Wicked Game" is good, of course. I also like "Nothing's Changed", "Wrong to Love You", and "Can't Do a Thing (To Stop Me)".
[QUOTE=Denethorn]I'm with Lestat and DW in that I like music that accompanies my mood. You want to fuel your emotions...[/QUOTE]
I agree with Kalashnikova: people should use their rage and sorrow to create their own songs. But the results would probably not appeal to many other people. The commercially-produced music that people listen to when they are sad or otherwise bothered by something really isn't the product of anyone's pain. More likely, it is the product of people who write music to become famous, make a lot of money, and get laid.