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You are annoying!

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:52 pm
by Woozaii
Well, we have had a thread with our favorite NPC, so now i thought we should have a thread with the NPC you find most ANNOYING too, and i also set up a post because (We dont need it, it doesn't help us, it isnt surprising...) ITS COOL!!

The poll isnt very helpful or has a lot of option, but i hereby declare it OPEN!! :D

IF you voted "other" Please specify.

¤ Edit ¤
Something is very wrong... The poll has gone bad, and i cant figure out how to fix it.... I am PMing Xandax about this, hoping that he can help us out.
Sorry for the inconvinience.
Dont let this stop you from posting who YOU think is the MOST annoying Npc in the game, right after the commercials!

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:32 pm
by Sparrow
Marcus, because he doesn't follow instructions. Really, how hard is it to understand "stay close to me?" He's best when you give him a turbo plasma rifle, but even then he's still a pain, because I use a hit and move combat tactic. Forget about giving him a power fist, because then every encounter becomes "rescue Marcus."

Marcus could have been a great NPC (one of the few that has an interaction portrait- what's up with that?) if we were allowed proper control over him. I stick with NPCs like Sulik and the robot.

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:21 pm
by Mr. Pastorius
[QUOTE=Sparrow]Marcus, because he doesn't follow instructions. Really, how hard is it to understand "stay close to me?"[/QUOTE]
he can't obey that order because he CAN'T RUN, the same problem exists with Skynet (aka Brain Bot), so when your character runs, he can't keep up


anyway, back to the topic... I vote for Myron, he's probably one of the most useless NPCs + has the most irritating voice, not to mention a looong dialogue when you ask him to wait 'til you come back (although his ability to be annoying can be pretty funny when you're playing as a female :laugh :)

then, second place: Miria/Davin, the most useless NPCs, you have to be nuts to want to have her/him in your party, AND they REFUSE to leave your party, which freaks me out... I just had to pull the trigger... solves every problem :angel: :D

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:30 pm
by Wrath
Dont let this stop you from posting who YOU think is the MOST annoying Npc in the game, right after the commercials!
Heck man, you got issues! :p
(jkin bro! :laugh: )

well most annoying... hmm.. first I thought of Myron, but he was made to be annoying! So I prefer, I mean, I hate most Miria, 'cause if you catch her to early in game, she'll mess up when you get to Navarro, and if you catch her in late game, she'll be useless... and will die easily...

and there's one and only thing in f2 that I can't stand with: hear her calling you a 'BUTTERCAKE'!! NO ONES CALLS ME 'BUTTERCAKE' :p

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 9:28 pm
by Sparrow
Mr. Pastorius wrote:he can't obey that order because he CAN'T RUN, the same problem exists with Skynet (aka Brain Bot), so when your character runs, he can't keep up
It's not about running or walking, it's about following or not following. The speed doesn't matter because this is a turn based game, not real time. Skynet moves slowly, but Skynet follows. Marcus goes where he wants to.

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:35 pm
by Deadalready
I always found that Deathclaw from vault 13 annoying, he'd always charge into battle and block the other characters shots and then if he got hit he'd turn against me.

Additionally he does that cloak taking off thingy which adds a huge amount of unnecessary seconds to both the start of a battle and the end of one. When fighting a series of small battles the cloaking takes forever and makes fighting so much more painful.

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:15 am
by Mr. Pastorius
Sparrow wrote:
It's not about running or walking, it's about following or not following. The speed doesn't matter because this is a turn based game, not real time. Skynet moves slowly, but Skynet follows. Marcus goes where he wants to.
Strange... I didn't notice that, most probably because I always charge in front and leave Marcus waaay behind before I enter combat mode, so it takes him a couple of turns to get close enough to the enemies :D

I thought you were talking about out-of-combat situations, sorry, my bad

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:03 am
by Woozaii
ok, Xandax says it cant be fixed. So you will have to do without the poll... Well, i can still give it to you, but you wont be able to vote.

The nominees for most annoying NPC are:

-Miria / Davin

-Rats / Mantis / Giant Ants

-Myron

-Jetheads (attacking you and stalking you for jet or food!)

-Pickpocketing Kids

-Lynette

-Other

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:36 am
by Sparrow
You should add to your list those children that pickpocket you when you walk through doors in the town of Den. They drive me nuts. They would have to be high on anyone's most annoying list!

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:41 am
by Wrath
Partial Results

So, 'till now we have

1 -> Miria / Davin
1 -> That Grey Deatchclaw (forgot the name, and this PC which I am now is too slow to check it out!)
1 -> Miron
1 -> Marcus

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:06 pm
by Woozaii
[QUOTE=Sparrow]You should add to your list those children that pickpocket you when you walk through doors in the town of Den. They drive me nuts. They would have to be high on anyone's most annoying list![/QUOTE]

Done, nice addition Sparrow :) ´.

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:43 pm
by Even
ey i have to agree that the damn kids r annoying > . <....later in the game its not an issue..but at the start it get vry irritating.

also i dun have a high carry weight so my wepons r limited..so large groups of rats, mantis or w/e also piss me off .. :p

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:03 am
by Kipi
Even wrote:ey i have to agree that the damn kids r annoying > . <....later in the game its not an issue..but at the start it get vry irritating.
Yup, those damned kids can be quite pain at the early stages :mad: :mad:
also i dun have a high carry weight so my wepons r limited..so large groups of rats, mantis or w/e also piss me off .. :p
Well, from my experience you only need one knife to actually survive from huge group of rats/manties/etc...
Guns only easy the killing, but those aren't necessare.

Then to the poll...
My choice is Lynette. She can be so annoying... :mad:

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:00 am
by Even
lol...having 500 hp..i dun have an issue with dieing from them :P ment that its just time consuming thats all...

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:55 am
by Kipi
[QUOTE=Even]lol...having 500 hp..i dun have an issue with dieing from them :P ment that its just time consuming thats all...[/QUOTE]
Well, if we count that you can kill one rat with 1-3 hits (depending on your luck with damages) and you can hit 3 times in one turn (if you have 9 or 10 AP) or 5 times in one turn (if you have 10 AP and Fast Shot -trait). So, you should be able to kill at least one rat in one turn. So IMO it doesn't take so much time to kill even big group...

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:08 am
by Woozaii
Well, if a character has terrible melee skills (like mine) killing rats can actually take a lot more time than you would expect. But if you have great big guns skills (like mine) you can just whip out a rocket launcher and kill 8-10 rats in one turn.

My choice is obvius :D .

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:17 am
by Mr. Pastorius
[QUOTE=Kipi]Well, if we count that you can kill one rat with 1-3 hits (depending on your luck with damages) and you can hit 3 times in one turn (if you have 9 or 10 AP) or 5 times in one turn (if you have 10 AP and Fast Shot -trait). So, you should be able to kill at least one rat in one turn. So IMO it doesn't take so much time to kill even big group...[/QUOTE]

And if we proceed a bit further, a 500 hp character will most likely have his combat skills high enough to drop a killing blow each time (e.g. Finesse and Fast shot traits, 10 luck, 10 Agility, 2xAction Boy, Bonus Rate of Fire, Better Criticals and Sniper perks combined with a gauss pistol at 150% small guns make 6 shots every turn with approx. 60 dmg critical shot each), so you'll wipe out every rat in Klamath in less than 5 minutes :angel:

of course, that doesn't work if you play with a non-combat character :laugh:

and yes, I'm a freak :D

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:06 pm
by Wrath
rats? annoying? well, they are easily killed, you can run from them and make few damage... why would they be annoying? you can kill 'em unarmed, even being a big gun character.... or a small gun, or even plasma! if you don't wanna fight, you can run easily... or you can just burn them to their bones with any weapon you want...
btw, wozaii you're a bit mad 'bout rats huh.. .. using bazookas vs poor rodents... :laugh:

rats can be annoying only when you're in a race againt time, or you wanna finish a quest before sleeping and then in the middle of the world a horde of rats want to kill you! :p so killing 'em all or running can be a little exaustive but that's all...

if you wanna meet a real annoying monster (I can't call that a NPC) try to fight some... I forgot the name, it's those fellas at the tanker at SF... those aliens, like centaurs or somethin' like... I dunno why, but it's hard to get criticals on them, and they take too much shots before dying..

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:14 pm
by Mr. Pastorius
[QUOTE=Wrath]
if you wanna meet a real annoying monster (I can't call that a NPC) try to fight some... I forgot the name, it's those fellas at the tanker at SF... those aliens, like centaurs or somethin' like... I dunno why, but it's hard to get criticals on them, and they take too much shots before dying..[/QUOTE]

Floaters? ARGH! I hate those creatures! It's the only critter I know of that takes very little or no damage from the pulse gun :mad:
Plus they can have poison attack :mad:

But I found out that they fall quite fast when you go after 'em with a laser gun :p

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:05 pm
by Woozaii
[QUOTE=Wrath]rats? annoying? well, they are easily killed, you can run from them and make few damage... why would they be annoying? you can kill 'em unarmed, even being a big gun character.... or a small gun, or even plasma! if you don't wanna fight, you can run easily... or you can just burn them to their bones with any weapon you want...
btw, wozaii you're a bit mad 'bout rats huh.. .. using bazookas vs poor rodents... :laugh:

rats can be annoying only when you're in a race againt time, or you wanna finish a quest before sleeping and then in the middle of the world a horde of rats want to kill you! :p so killing 'em all or running can be a little exaustive but that's all.....[/QUOTE]


I actually find rats and ants and mantises VERY annoying when i am strolling the deserts. I move one step, i am attacked by mantises. I kill them, get 100 exp.
Then i move one more step, i am attacked by rats. I kill them, get 300 exp.
THen i move one more step, i am attacked by giant ants. I kill them, get 300 exp.
Then i move one more step, i am attacked by mantises. I kill them, get 125 exp.
Then i move one more step, i am attacked by rats. I kill them, get 250 exp.
Then i move one more step, i am attacked by giant ants. I kill them, get 100 exp.
Then i move one more step, i am attacked by mantises. I kill them, get 25 exp.
Then i move one more step, i am attacked by rats. I kill them, get 50 exp.
Then i move one more step, i am attacked by giant ants. I kill them, get 75 exp.

You get the picture, i am sure... When i have been doing that for 20 minutes i no longer mind wasting rocket ammo just to get rid of them!!:angry:.