This forum is to be used for all discussions pertaining to Bethesda Softworks' The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind and its Tribunal and Bloodmoon expansion packs.
I have played Balder's Gate with Tales of the Sword Coast more times than I can count and then took a break from gaming. I recently decided to start up again but now I am playing through BG2: Shadows of Amn with Throne of Bhaal.
I have previously played Icewind Dale (just the original with the expansions but not ID2) and Planescape:Torment and loved all of them.
Now that the long preamble is completed, my question is can anyone advise me if someone that loves the above mentioned games would enjoy ES3:Morrowind or not.
Thanks for any advice and/or insight that you provide!
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a person does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses their intelligence.
[QUOTE=Gimli]I started off with similar games, neverwinter, icewind and BG. I loved them but I really believe ES3 is better![/QUOTE]
Great!
I haven't tried Neverwinter (yet) but that is next on my list. Then I figured that I would try out ES3: Morrowind if I received favorable responses to this thread.
Thanks for the input.
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a person does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses their intelligence.
ES3 is good for a few reasons, in case that's what you are looking for-
Open-Ended- The game literally lets you do what you want in it. Meaning, you go where you want when you want, kill or save who you want, fight what you want, steal what you want from who you want, everythign is possible, you shape the world around you. The NPC's are affected by what you do, such as if you're reputation goes up or if you've contracted Vampirism, people will like you more or hate you more, it all depends on what you do in the game.
Spell And Combat System- You don't just go up to an enemy and attack in this game. There are several steps you have to perform to make an attack that's effective. For instance, you'll see on a weapon 3 types of damage. One is straight up attack, point and click damage, which could be high or could be low. Another is side to side damage, meaning you move from side to side and get different damage. Then there is charge damage where you run straight at an enemy to damage him. Those are just weapons too, spells are also quite balanced in the game IMO. You have a spell, and when you want to cast it, it takes both mana and randomly determines if you can cast it or not on a percentage basis. If you have a 60% chance to cast the spell, you'll cast it an average of 6/10 times in the game, which the other 4 times that don't cast it still use mana.
Dialogue- People tell me that they hate the dialogue system in morrowind, but I like it. It's simple, when you talk to people, it's possible to gain a new topic to ask about. Now, depending on your personality and speechcraft, you might get more or less out of a person when talking. But the interesting part, it usually consists of 1 word that you choose from. No endless scenarios of a huge amount of dialogue that can affect your character, merely topics that you can bring up and based on your speechcraft, what you get out of it is the gold.
There are other reasons I can go into depth with, but those are my three reasons why this should be on every RP'ers shelf.
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Thank you for the additional and detailed information Siberys.
The combat and magic system truly sounds interesting and challenging, which should make from great game play.
Being able to do "whatever" instead of the typical quests will be quite a change from my usual but sounds fun.
I will get this game and give it a run.
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a person does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses their intelligence.
If you have at least 500 MB RAM and a medium fast (2 gHz) machine, be sure to check the stickies at the top of the forum for mod recommendations. Player made mods can add so much to Morrowind: player-made houses, new stores, massive quest systems, new areas, tweaks, new textures, etc. They can really increase your enjoyment.
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[QUOTE=fable]If you have at least 500 MB RAM and a medium fast (2 gHz) machine, be sure to check the stickies at the top of the forum for mod recommendations. [/QUOTE]
I have a Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop with 2GB RAM and a Pentium M 1.73 GHz with an ATI X300 video card. I'm barely under your 2 GHz specification but do you think that my system will play the game well?
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a person does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses their intelligence.
[QUOTE=DaemonJ]I have a Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop with 2GB RAM and a Pentium M 1.73 GHz with an ATI X300 video card. I'm barely under your 2 GHz specification but do you think that my system will play the game well?[/QUOTE]
RAM checks out very well. Should run Really good.
MINIMUM SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:
* Windows ME/98 128 MB RAM
* Windows XP/2000 256 MB RAM
* 500 MHz Intel Pentium III, Celeron, or AMD Athlon processor
* 8x CD/DVD-ROM Drive
* 1 GB free hard disk space
* Windows swapfile
* DirectX 8.1 (included)
* 32MB Direct3D compatible video card with 32-bit color support and
DirectX 8.1 compatible driver
* DirectX 8.1 compatible sound card
* Keyboard, Mouse
RECOMMENDED:
* 800 MHz or faster Intel Pentium III or AMD Athlon processor
* 256 MB RAM
* NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS, or ATI Radeon 7500 or faster video card.
SUPPORTED VIDEO CARD CHIPSETS:
* NVIDIA GeForce4
* NVIDIA GeForce3
* NVIDIA GeForce2
* NVIDIA GeForce 256
* NVIDIA TNT2
* ATI Radeon 8500
* ATI Radeon 7500
* ATI Radeon 7200
* ATI Radeon
* ATI Rage 128
* Matrox G550
* Matrox G450
* Matrox G400
Keep in mind, it's an older game (2002) so system reqs are pretty easy.
Now, I actually have 254 MB if ram on my old system, but it ran really well.
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[QUOTE=ch85us2001]RAM checks out very well. Should run Really good.
Keep in mind, it's an older game (2002) so system reqs are pretty easy.
Now, I actually have 254 MB if ram on my old system, but it ran really well.[/QUOTE]
Yeah my system isn't exactly an Alienware Area 51 so I have been trying to stay with the older games to avoid any problems and disappointments due to poor playability. I'm not planning to play Doom 3 anytime soon. LOL
The newest game that I have is Neverwinter Nights but I haven't broken the plastic seal on the box yet. LOL
I was worried about playability since fable mentioned 2 GHz and I'm not quite there. Although *supposedly* my P-M / 1.73 should be equal to a P-4 / 3.6 GHz or something like that.
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[QUOTE=DaemonJ]I have a Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop with 2GB RAM and a Pentium M 1.73 GHz with an ATI X300 video card. I'm barely under your 2 GHz specification but do you think that my system will play the game well?[/QUOTE]
Pentium M 1.73GHz is equivalent to Pentium 4 2.8GHz.
So you should have no problems in running the maximum number of mods, which are 210. And no, I'm not joking. I suspect you'll even run the high-end texture mods, if that's your choice.
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[QUOTE=fable]So you should have no problems in running the maximum number of mods, which are 210. And no, I'm not joking. I suspect you'll even run the high-end texture mods, if that's your choice.[/QUOTE]
That sounds great but that is a heck of a lot of mods! LOL
I will definitely be picking this game up and giving it a try.
Thank you all for all of the information and help.
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Indeed. I suggest starting here, and here, but the stickies above do contain considerable detail about mods we enjoy, and well as links, in some cases.
Everybody starts small. It's just that, after a while, you begin to discover new ways the game can be customized for your enjoyment, and you keep adding. Do you want to buy, breed, and sell horses? Add new cities? Take control of your own branch of the Thieves Guild? Get nice perks when you top out in a guild? Obtain new, stylish weapons? Become a lich? Acquire new magical devices? Make the game harder, or easier? It's all there.
To the Righteous belong the fruits of violent victory. The rest of us will have to settle for warm friends, warm lovers, and a wink from a quietly supportive universe.
[QUOTE=fable]Everybody starts small. It's just that, after a while, you begin to discover new ways the game can be customized for your enjoyment, and you keep adding. Do you want to buy, breed, and sell horses? Add new cities? Take control of your own branch of the Thieves Guild? Get nice perks when you top out in a guild? Obtain new, stylish weapons? Become a lich? Acquire new magical devices? Make the game harder, or easier? It's all there.[/QUOTE]
Wow, I did not realize this game could be customized that much! That is pretty incredible and sounds like you could keep playing for years and still have new stuff to do.
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a person does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses their intelligence.
Morrowind is a good game for all the reasons already listed. I've never played a game that is so completely open and well adapted to customisation.
But, if you are a huge fan of BG2 and PS:T.. you may be disappointed by the dialogue, NPCs, storyline, and general depth.
There are mods that help with this though, definitely check out the "Less Generic NPC Project" plug-ins.
btw, my machine is old, 1 Gig, with 384 MB RAM. Though, admittedly, I upgraded the video card a bit, which helps dramatically.
Therefore, it sounds to me as though you'd be fine.
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[QUOTE=dragon wench]Morrowind is a good game for all the reasons already listed. I've never played a game that is so completely open and well adapted to customisation.
But, if you are a huge fan of BG2 and PS:T.. you may be disappointed by the dialogue, NPCs, storyline, and general depth.
There are mods that help with this though, definitely check out the "Less Generic NPC Project" plug-ins.[/QUOTE]
From the sounds of things so far, Morrowind is more like real life where some people have something to say and others don't. Unlike BG where just about everybody has something to say and are directing you toward a quest.
Am I right on that or were you referring to something different?
[QUOTE=dragon wench]btw, my machine is old, 1 Gig, with 384 MB RAM. Though, admittedly, I upgraded the video card a bit, which helps dramatically.
Therefore, it sounds to me as though you'd be fine.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for that additional information as it helps to put my mind at ease a bit although we seem to be opposite - I will bet my Radeon X300 is a much slower video card with less features than your video card but hopefully my additional RAM and CPU will cover the difference.
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a person does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses their intelligence.
DaemonJ wrote:From the sounds of things so far, Morrowind is more like real life where some people have something to say and others don't. Unlike BG where just about everybody has something to say and are directing you toward a quest.
Am I right on that or were you referring to something different?
To a point that's what I mean, though even the dialogue of those who have something to say is a bit on the generic side.
The good parts of Morrowind are its unlimited freedom, vast expanse, customization, and, in places, breath taking graphics. I guess what I am trying to say is that it is a very different game from those produced by the old Black Isle team, which makes it difficult to say whether you will like the one because you liked the other.
My suggestion, just buy the Game of the Year edition, which includes both expansions, and play it to see how you like it. You can pick up Morrowind GOTY pretty cheap these days, so you can't lose.
Thank you for that additional information as it helps to put my mind at ease a bit although we seem to be opposite - I will bet my Radeon X300 is a much slower video card with less features than your video card but hopefully my additional RAM and CPU will cover the difference.
Hmmm.. well I don't know anything at all about Radeon cards, but I upgraded to a NVidia GEForce FX 5200, which is actually a really low level card by today's standards (no idea how it compares to your card though). My machine limited the quality of card I could get, and given its age, it just wasn't worth blowing a lot of cash.
I'll leave it to the techies here to comment on the video cards
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