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Is this a bit over the top?
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:49 am
by Fiona
Following on from some of the discussion about pornography etc:
Fair officials vow to crack down on streakers
I saw this and I wondered how to make sense of this bit:
, any public nudity will bring a charge of misdemeanor child endangerment, punishable by up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine.
I think that there is an argument of some sort against pornography being available where children might see it: but I cannot honestly see that streaking is pornographic. It does not seem to me to be designed to make people horny, more to make them laugh. Maybe it is just me, but
child endangerment?
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:54 am
by Damuna_Nova
It amuses me how often America proves it is far from being a free country, while it still claims to be one.
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:55 am
by Fiona
Not sure this kind of thing is confined to America, really. I see a lot of this "doing it by numbers" in the UK as well.
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:05 am
by dragon wench
"We just think it's time to take control of the event again and say this really is intended to be a family event," he said.
Apparently nudity isn't a "family value."
Bah... I've already stated my thoughts on this kind of stuff. My view on those who make statements like the above, "Get over it already people, it's the human body, no big deal."
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:06 am
by Fiona
Opposition to the streaking has grown since last year's derby, he said, when a deputy used a Taser to apprehend a 21-year-old, dropping him to the dirt as he streaked with a fire extinguisher before a crowd of 3,500.
Child endangerment? 
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:42 am
by Denethorn
In principle they may have a point, but as you say its a bit over the top to say the least.
Fines of that level, threats of jailtime etc. are excessive. A night in the booze tank is more appropriate.
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:46 am
by TonyMontana1638
Damn Janet Jackson's nipple, this is all her fault.

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:37 pm
by Darzog
I may be wrong, but most places that link nudity with child endangerment are doing so based, not on streakers but on flashers which is usually deemed a sexual assault on someone (someone walking up to a woman/child and flashing them because they get off on it). In those cases the laws are usually vague enough that streaking can be considered the same offense. I doubt that they are making up a new law, they are just using an existing law to respond to complaints that have been made.
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:55 pm
by Fiona
[QUOTE=Darzog]I may be wrong, but most places that link nudity with child endangerment are doing so based, not on streakers but on flashers which is usually deemed a sexual assault on someone (someone walking up to a woman/child and flashing them because they get off on it). In those cases the laws are usually vague enough that streaking can be considered the same offense. I doubt that they are making up a new law, they are just using an existing law to respond to complaints that have been made.[/QUOTE]
I am sure you are right but that is what I mean by "doing it by numbers". Flashing is very scary indeed, and steeaking is funny. There is some overlap ( I saw a very funny flasher in Amsterdam, though he was on a bike so he might qualify as a streaker) But I cannot see any reason for widening the application of the law in this way. It brings it into disrepute really, I think
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:29 pm
by JonIrenicus
With all the American "sex and violence" they have on tv you would think they would be ok with streakers. I swear those conservatives need to lighten up and get their head out of their... money.
Fiona why must you post things that make me so angry

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:30 pm
by slade
does this mean I cant streak with you anymore Fiona??

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:33 pm
by Fiona
[QUOTE=JonIrenicus]
Fiona why must you post things that make me so angry

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I am sorry, Ji. I did not aim it at you in particular

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:50 pm
by shana
Consider...a naked person, running over a child...very dangerous!!! :speech:

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:51 pm
by dragon wench
[QUOTE=shana]Consider...a naked person, running over a child...very dangerous!!! :speech:

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Moreso to the naked person than said child I'd bet....

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:10 pm
by shana
I don't know, I think it might be equally terrifying anyway!!

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:22 pm
by blake
It's child endangerment because if they see a streaker they are going to think that nudity is okay. Yahweh forbid.
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:24 pm
by Damuna_Nova
[QUOTE=blake]It's child endangerment because if they see a streaker they are going to think that nudity is okay. Yahweh forbid.[/QUOTE]
...And why isn't nudity okay, pray tell?
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:25 pm
by Chimaera182
Such silly nonsense. Just political nonsense so that they can get away with doing other things. They just don't want to be caught with their pants down. And don't want anyone else to, either.

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:27 pm
by blake
Because Peepee's and Weewee's are bad. Duh.:laugh:
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:49 am
by Darzog
[QUOTE=Damuna_Nova]...And why
isn't nudity okay, pray tell?[/QUOTE]
Haven't you seen some of the people out there!?
And has anyone noticed the upward trend in nudity-fear in the US matching the rate of obesity in the US? Maybe these people aren't actually against nudity, just fat nudity!:speech: