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After extensive research, it has been concluded that both are
,instead of a games, actually a teaching on
demonology, witchcraft, voodoo, murder, rape, blasphemy, suicide,
assassination, insanity, sex perversion, homosexuality, prostitution, Satan
Worship, gambling, Jungian psychology, barbarism, cannibalism, sadism,
desecration, demon summoning, necromantics, divination and many more
teachings, brought to you in living color direct from the pit of hell!!!"

A principle laid down long ago by God is: " For as he thinketh in his heart,
so is he" (Proverbs 23:7). "Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of
it are the issues of life" (Proverbs 4:23). We ARE what we THINK. It is
ridiculous to believe that people, young or old, can absorb their minds with
violence, murder, human sacrifice, suicide, demonology, rape, desecration,
defecation, sadism, cannibalism, sex perversion, insanity, prostitution,
necromantics, Satan worship, witchcraft, and every other form of perverted
and violent conduct without being intensely - and perhaps permanently -
affected adversely. We ARE what we THINK!

Young person, if you want to be successful, productive, well-adjusted, and
happy, then refuse to fill your wonderful mind with such garbage! Don't
allow someone else to take control of your mind. Think too much of yourself
to become a tool in the hands of those whose interest is to get your money
and destroy your faith in God.


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I will drive my enemies before me, take their souls and listen to the lamentation of their women echo in the Cavern of Khazad-dum.

Is this definately Serious, if yes then i agree to a certain degree, but sometimes these images are forced upon you and you don't know how to react then you will be unable to deal with a situation, you will panic and then you will freeze, which could cause you problems.

If you have been exposed to these images and know how to react then you will deal with them that much more competently.

*Clink*, "what was that",
"my two pence worth"

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"I claim the right to contradict myself. I don't want to deprive myself of the
right to talk nonsense, and I ask humbly to be allowed to be wrong sometimes."
-- Federico Fellni

Can you provide an accurate quote for this research or are you just stirring up poop?

Um, let me be the first to reply (you simply put this up here for discussion and don't buy into it, correct?)

We are not such simple machines that we are what we think any more than pure thoughts alone will make us all saints.

That not withstanding- I do believe that impressionable minds should not be needlessly filled with images of violence (we here in the US have a bad habit of doing this) but I don't think this game crosses that line.

I have more to say, but let someone else have a shot- will jump back in later.

So, why did YOU buy the game?
Just to find out about this.
Before you put that, The AD&D is not perfect just like live HERE is not perfect, and your rant about witchcraft,voodoo ant others... do we all have to belive in the HOLY BIBLE I dont think so... and about TV ? that is in the News today is far worst that is in the game so... just put our head in the sand and pretend that nothing is happening in the world?... hope that a higher power will solve all our problems?....
Baldur´s gate is as a bad place as here... so quit your "Baldur´s Gate and D & D are truly evil" because Evil is a very large concept.
And by the way its AD&D not D&D


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"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not became a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss gazes into you..."
Friedrich Nietzsche

And just what's evil about Jungian psychology?

And boy I hope you're not serious (if you are you best get out the asbestos suit)!!

Yep, he must be stirring poop. He quoted the bible.

Nice piece of fiction there too...

I sense some Irony in Foul's sentences... correct me if I am wrong, but that is what I think.

cause... if he does believe in THAT crap... well, it is a helpless case

Gruntboy: Fiction?

Anatres: the Bible

So I am swimming around minding my own business when this worm comes drifting by...

This is either foul's idea of a joke, or his evil twin. In either case I suggest we not take the bait.

Quoting the bible? The oft missused and missunderstood book has caused more bloodshed than perhaps any other (except for maybe that book by Martha Stewart)

LOL Waverly.

Personally I think the Harry Potter books are going to be the cause of the next set of apocalyptical blood-bath wars. The annoying little tw*t.

Originally posted by FoulDwimmerlaik:
a teaching on demonology, witchcraft, voodoo, murder, rape, blasphemy, suicide, assassination, insanity, sex perversion, homosexuality, prostitution, Satan
Worship, gambling, Jungian psychology, barbarism, cannibalism, sadism,
desecration, demon summoning, necromantics, divination and many more
teachings, brought to you in living color direct from the pit of hell!!!"

I don't remember having the opportunity to worship Satan, desecrate any shrines, defecate, or rape. (ha ha, he said "defecate") I did summon demons, but the were cute cuddly ones. I also gambled, but in real life I hate gambling, so that was kind of out of character (kind of like killing).

Seriously, though, I'm rather impressed by the ethics in this game. For example, in the Umar Hills I had the opportunity to relieve some misconceptions about a group of people who were being wrongly blamed for killings because of their skin color (and odor, etc.). That was damn impressive for a game!

Nice point Waverly!

A politically correct game??? Bah!!!

The burning times, the inquisition, whoohoo some good bible fun. Yeh AD&D is mighty dangerous. Oh, and note that a criticize my own religion here- not someone elses.

Aggghhhhh!

That was pansy simulacrum wrote that last post...


hypocritical bible-thumping bastards....

*my* simulacrum i meant to type....

Sorry guys, i got called away to a meeting and couldn't follow up on my post...just amazing what people believe isn't it? The Bothered About Dungeons & Dragons group (BADD) sent me that article a while back and I just found it. The fact that the author is being perfectly serious is the good bit....

You started it.
Or what do we have to folow your etics,

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"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not became a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss gazes into you..."
Friedrich Nietzsche

[This message has been edited by Drakron Du´Dark (edited 01-12-2001).]

p.s. AD&D was originally D&D. I guess I'm just an old-timer...