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Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:05 am**

I know this is a long (to big for one post

) post but please take a look at it.

I recently bought morrowind for PC and I want to install some mods for it but I don't know if they work whit each other or so, and since I've never used a mod before I'm kinda worried about trashing the game so
1 Do you think they all will work together?
2 If not then what mods do you recommend that I don't install.
3 Any tips on how to install them?
4 Do you know of any other good mod?
5 I also need a something to make the graphics better, any tips?

Links to each mod can be found in the next post.

I'm looking for a mod where you can buy/get bag's or sack's that you can put stuff into and you can also put the bags in each other (in the inventory), any idea on where to find it?

I'm gonna download a version of "Magical Trinkets of Tamriel" but I'm not sure if I should go whit version 3 or the Beta on version 4
version 3
Magical Trinkets of Tamriel Volume 3 - Planet Elder Scrolls
Beta 4
Magical Trinkets of Tamriel Volume 4 - Planet Elder Scrolls

Tarmar

Windows Glow

Haldenshore

Havish

Herbalism Lite

Where Are All Birds Going?

Balmora Thieves Hideout

Balmora Waterfall

Cape (Physiqued)

Area Effect Arrows

Real Signposts

MultiMark

Scripted spells

Fair Magicka Regen

Writing Enhanced

House of Mannequins

Great House Dagoth

Helms Deep

Complete Morrowind Part 1 addon: Poisons

Complete Morrowind Part 1: Cooking

Complete Morrowind

Complete Morrowind Part 5: Smithing

Complete Morrowind Part 2: Sewing

Complete Morrowind Part 3: Pottery Making

Complete Morrowind Part 4: Carpentry

Tenience's Rare Items

The Definitive Birthsigns Pack

The Ultimate Knight Shop

The White Tiger Mod

Traveling Merchants

Rethan Expansion

Nude system B

Puzzle Canal

Ninja Outfits

Modtown 2004

Lights 300

Master Index

J-ninja

Betterbooks

Book Rotate

Solstheim castle

Animal Realism

Acherons Camping Gear

Alchemists Complete Formulary

Balmora Castle

Inn of the Whispering Wood

Sri's Alchemy

Swampy Swamps(!)

Cloak and Dagger (note, kill Adora and take her stuff or else the game will crash when you use her)

FORESTS OF VVARDENFELL

Wilderness Sounds

Rhedds Heads

Better Bodies 2.1

Trade Route

Nighttime Doorlocks 1.1

Skeletal Mannequins

TESAME (?)

The Cloak Collection

Skooma Lab

Flask Replacer

Journal Enhanced

Devil's Rock for Vivec's Soul

Necromancer's Robe

Necromancer's Amulet

The Underground

Amulet of Scrye

Heavens lookout

Assassins armory

VAMPIRE EMBRACE

Dracandos' Voice

PEACEFULL WATER LIFE

Arcane Armature

Almexias own

RING OF TELEPORTATION

The Dialogue Request Mod

Give your orders

Abandoned Retreat

AMALYAN TEMPLE

ARCHERS HAVEN 2.4

Illuminated Order

Uvirith Inside

RM Add-on 2: Library

Twin Lamps

Sunken House

Vivec flat

The New Lands

The Lost City

Pit Warriors

Investigators

The Imperial Legion Badge

HUNTING MOD

Mournhold Expanded

Ghostgate (will install after completing the main quest)

Better torches

Abu's Retreat

Balmora expanded (although I'm afraid that it might conflict whit other mods.)

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:06 am**

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:49 pm**

I don't have the time to go point by point through your entire list, but just some quick comments here.

A basic rule of thumb is that if two or more mods alter the same thing, place, NPC, script etc. chances are that they will conflict. So, much of it consists of carefully reading through the "readmes" and using common sense.
For example, many Balmora mods *will* conflict with "Balmora Expanded."
You should also be aware that "Balmora Expanded" is a huge resource drain and causes significant slowdowns. This is not as big a deal if you have a new, fast computer... but it is nearly unplayable on older machines. The same is true for "Mournhold Expanded."
On a similar note, expect performance hits after installing a lot of mods, especially if they are script intensive, add a lot of NPCs or creatures etc.

For texture replacers, if you haven't already, you'll want to browse through [url="http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.List&category_select_id=13"]here.[/url]
It is hard to say which I'd recommend because tastes vary so much. What you might want to do is back up your texture and mesh folders, and then just experiment.
It's a good idea to back your files up before installing mods anyway.
As far as installing goes, [url="http://www.gamebanshee.com/forums/elder-scrolls-iii-morrowind-29/mods-how-to-install-69514.html?highlight=install"]this thread[/url] should help you out.

Note:
I just saw that you have also listed some Oblivion mods.... As far as I know you cannot install Oblivion mods into Morrowind.. somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:00 pm**

Whew.

1 Do you think they all will work together?

Download the TES Plug In Detector. It compares all mods you've got, or one mod to all others. Some conflicts are fine, but watch out for conflicts involving the same geographical areas, or dialog.

I'm gonna download a version of "Magical Trinkets of Tamriel" but I'm not sure if I should go whit version 3 or the Beta on version 4

#4 is a beta, so expect it to break. #3 works without a hitch. Your choice.

Journal Enhanced
Writing Enhanced

Great mods, but you must load Morrowind Enhanced first, or they won't run.

I'm looking for a mod where you can buy/get bag's or sack's that you can put stuff into and you can also put the bags in each other (in the inventory), any idea on where to find it?

Not possible within the game. I suggest both Better Portable Containers, and Alchemy Storage Helper. I use only the second, because it's a bit less clumsy than the first. Note, these require Morrowind Script Extender.

Traveling Merchants

Don't use the 1.2 version that you linked to. I'm not the only one who has complained to KhanBuriKhan over the years that it's broken, and will crash the game when you arrive in a couple of cities; but he lives in denial. Try Cyrano's 2.2 version, which works perfectly, and even adds a few more merchants.

Don't run Oblivion mods. They won't work in Morrowind, as DW suggested.

Check out our own mod recommendations, under the appropriate sticky thread.

The best place I've found that collects good mods and links out to downloads isMorrowind Mythic Mods.

Hope this all helps.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:24 pm**

My own current mod list, from my INI file:

GameFile0=Morrowind.esm
GameFile1=Tribunal.esm
GameFile2=Bloodmoon.esm
GameFile3=Morrowind Advanced.esm
GameFile4=RF - Furniture shop.esm
GameFile5=Havish.esm
GameFile6=Beryl's_Head_Replacer_v1.0.esm
GameFile7=Book Rotate.esm
GameFile8=Morrowind Patch v1.6.3.esm
GameFile9=BT_Whitewolf_2_0.esm
GameFile10=MCA.esm
GameFile11=Less Lore.esp
GameFile12=master_index.esp
GameFile13=abotwa!terLife.esp
GameFile14=abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp
GameFile15=snakebite.esp
GameFile16=Expanded Sounds.esp
GameFile17=Cait's Critters Unleashed 2.0 (Tribunal).esp
GameFile18=tusar_v1.2.1(bloodmoon addon).esp
GameFile19=Illuminated Order v1.0.esp
GameFile20=Illuminated Order v1.0 - Bloodmoon Compatibility Extras.esp
GameFile21=Daggerfall Collection Ver 1.1.esp
GameFile22=Morrowind Toy Shoppe - Figurines! Trib & BM.esp
GameFile23=Aduls_Arcane_Armature.esp
GameFile24=valshea_bloodmoon.esp
GameFile25=Haldenshore_1.2.esp
GameFile26=TarMar.esp
GameFile27=DwemerBioMonitor_v1-2.esp
GameFile28=Potted Plants - Trib & BM.esp
GameFile29=SheogoradAlchemistv1.0.esp
GameFile30=RF - Bethesda Furniture.esp
GameFile31=RF- Dongle's Delights.esp
GameFile32=RF & HOM Compatability.esp
GameFile33=RF - Lady E's Extravaganza.esp
GameFile34=farrp_WeaponCompilationMod_V2.esp
GameFile35=Uvirith Inside.esp
GameFile36=Werewolf_Evolution.esp
GameFile37=Disturb_the_dead_TB_SA_Addon.esp
GameFile38=Disturb_the_dead_BM_SA_Addon.esp
GameFile39=RKWerewolf.esp
GameFile40=Korobal v1.2.esp
GameFile41=Kai Globes 2.9.esp
GameFile42=Improved Cursed Items.esp
GameFile43=Windows Glow.esp
GameFile44=Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
GameFile45=Nolore_Fixes.esp
GameFile46=Booty.esp
GameFile47=Aduls_Clocks_and_Watches.esp
GameFile48=Aduls_Arsenal.esp
GameFile49=ME_FamiliarGrimlok.esp
GameFile50=Daedric Sorcery.esp
GameFile51=Changing Faces Replacer.esp
GameFile52=ME_TTWM.esp
GameFile53=Tribun_Laura_3_0.esp
GameFile54=TravelingMerchants_v2.2.esp
GameFile55=Syc_HerbalismforPurists.esp
GameFile56=Bonsai Creatures.esp
GameFile57=Vampire_Embrace.esp
GameFile58=ASH 2.0.esp
GameFile59=CompanionTeleportation.esp
GameFile60=Container Companion Gold.esp
GameFile61=Wayfarer's Rest v1.21.esp
GameFile62=TachyonCastingUnlimited.esp
GameFile63=Clean KeyNamer.esp
GameFile64=vn_lichcraft2.esp
GameFile65=Wanderers of Solstheim.esp
GameFile66=Mournhold Expanded.esp
GameFile67=Ald Redaynia Extended.esp
GameFile68=Lich Father Act II.esp
GameFile69=Amulets and Rings 2.1 Upgrade A.esp
GameFile70=Clean Suran Extended.esp
GameFile71=BM-Fixes.esp
GameFile72=Lich Father Act I.esp
GameFile73=Better Bodies.esp
GameFile74=Kaylas_Kick-Knacks.esp
GameFile75=Clean Fliggerty's Armor Project.esp
GameFile76=Clean jeremy.esp
GameFile77=Clean signs.esp
GameFile78=MWE_Base.esp
GameFile79=MWE_Writing.esp
GameFile80=The_Swords_of_Morrowind.esp
GameFile81=The Hidden Pathway 2.0.esp
GameFile82=The Broken Drum 1.01.esp
GameFile83=Hostile Attackers Low Density 5.0.esp
GameFile84=Hostile Attackers for BloodMoon 5.0.esp
GameFile85=Clean Sorefoot Enterprises, Inc. v1.5a.esp
GameFile86=Clean Theurgist.esp
GameFile87=Clean lgnpc.esp
GameFile88=Clean werewolfrealism-moononly_changeatwill.esp
GameFile89=Clean Scrolls of Khartum.esp
GameFile90=Clean The Widow Fedaris ver 1.1.esp
GameFile91=Clean Aduls_Change_Weather_BM.esp
GameFile92=Clean MaGISTraTe's MagesGuild Rewards 2.0 (NoCreeper).esp
GameFile93=Clean small1.esp
GameFile94=Clean Killgore's Home Furnishings v1.1.esp
GameFile95=BE_dh_furn_stores .esp
GameFile96=Clean HighFaneExp.esp
GameFile97=Clean Suran Archery Store_v3.0.esp
GameFile98=Clean Leaves of Lorien.esp
GameFile99=Clean Nevena's Twin Lamps & Slave Hunters 1.5.esp
GameFile100=Clean newarrows.esp
GameFile101=Clean AreaEffectArrows.esp
GameFile102=Clean Mournhold, The Great Bazaar.esp
GameFile103=Clean Lights_300_V4.esp
GameFile104=Clean Pwmm11-no crouching.esp
GameFile105=Clean Sris_Alchemy_BM.esp
GameFile106=Clean Resources Enhanced.esp
GameFile107=MKL-Helm.esp
GameFile108=Clean Vvardenfell Druglord.esp
GameFile109=B79_Mage Companion Kendra v2.01.esp
GameFile110=Decorator+ (for Fable).esp
GameFile111=Universal Companion Share.esp
GameFile112=Pursuit Enhanced.esp
GameFile113=Morrowind Crafting 2-1.esp
GameFile114=Morrowind Crafting Equipment.esp
GameFile115=MCA - Guards Patch.esp
GameFile116=Clean item1.esp
GameFile117=Clean marcMoriEstate.esp
GameFile118=KS_Julan_Ashlander Companion_1.0.esp
GameFile119=Visceral Discernment.esp
GameFile120=constance1_0.esp
GameFile121=Clean MTT Vol III.esp
GameFile122=Mashed Lists.esp
GameFile123=MW_Adv_Required.esp
GameFile124=House of Mannequins v1.0.esp
GameFile125=Book Rotate - Tribunal v5.3.esp
GameFile126=Book Rotate - Bloodmoon v5.3.esp
GameFile127=Clean Key Replacer MW Renamer.esp
GameFile128=Syc_HerbalismforPurists_BM.esp
GameFile129=Balmora Expansion v1.4+(1.2).esp
GameFile130=Syc_Herbalism ES Patch.esp
GameFile131=Clean SR_Buf_Males.esp
GameFile132=Clean SR_Fuller_body.esp
GameFile133=Clean small2.esp
GameFile134=Clean TradeDisputes.esp
GameFile135=Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp
GameFile136=Clean small3.esp
GameFile137=Syc_HerbalismforPurists_TB.esp
GameFile138=MWE_Journal.esp
GameFile139=Clean small4.esp
GameFile140=Clean small6.esp
GameFile141=horationpcenhanced12-ve.esp
GameFile142=npce_mwse_patch.esp

"Clean" refers to versions of mods that have been cleaned using TEStool. Many very good mods come pre-cleaned by their makers. This cuts out the so-called "bad" GMSTs, which can wreck havoc with game stability.

I plan to add in more quest mods as my character advances in level. Many of these are so script-intensive that I'd rather wait to run them until necessary.

Note that the few labeled "small" are really compilation mods I've made of between 6 and 15 very small mods, to squeeze more below the mod limit.

I'll try to break those down in another post when I get a chance, but no promises when.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:38 pm**

Fable had a good idea there, here is my list of mods, they all seem be working fine together:

GameFile0=Assassins Armory.esm
GameFile1=Bloodmoon.esm
GameFile2=Book Rotate.esm
GameFile3=Morrowind.esm
GameFile4=New Npc Replacer 3.50 (bloodmoon version).esm
GameFile5=Tribunal.esm
GameFile6=A Call to Issilar.esp
GameFile7=abo****erLife.esp
GameFile8=abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp
GameFile9=AshlanderTent.esp
GameFile10=Assassins Armory - No Scripts.esp
GameFile11=Astion's Chrysamere.esp
GameFile12=Azura's waterfall.esp
GameFile13=A_flock_of_seagulls.esp
GameFile14=BAR_Solstheim Seaside Cabin.esp
GameFile15=BB_Clothiers_of_Vvardenfell_v1.1.esp
GameFile16=Better Bodies.esp
GameFile17=Birdies by Cait and Leeloo.esp
GameFile18=Blight Bounties.esp
GameFile19=Book Jackets - Bloodmoon - BookRotate.esp
GameFile20=Book Jackets - Bloodmoon.esp
GameFile21=Book Jackets - Morrowind - BookRotate.esp
GameFile22=Book Jackets - Morrowind.esp
GameFile23=Book Jackets - Tribunal - BookRotate.esp
GameFile24=Book Jackets - Tribunal.esp
GameFile25=Book Rotate - Bloodmoon v5.3.esp
GameFile26=Book Rotate - Tribunal v5.3.esp
GameFile27=Cait's Squirrels.esp
GameFile28=Candle Shop.esp
GameFile29=Centurion´s_Stronghold_Extension_V21.esp
GameFile30=Chu-Bran's Treasure.esp
GameFile31=Clean BadKarma Dresses V1.0.esp
GameFile32=Clean BB2_Falconer_Leather.esp
GameFile33=Clean TF_bedreplacer_v1_MW_BM.esp
GameFile34=Clean THFFTribBM_FINAL.esp
GameFile35=Coastal Cottage.esp
GameFile36=constance1_0.esp
GameFile37=DC House Balmora 2.esp
GameFile38=dh_furn.esp
GameFile39=dh_furn_stores.esp
GameFile40=dh_thriftshop.esp
GameFile41=DwemerLoot1.0.esp
GameFile42=dxm_metallic_signs.esp
GameFile43=Eyren_Robes.esp
GameFile44=Fireflies.esp
GameFile45=GAM NOM 2.12.esp
GameFile46=Guar Rescue.esp
GameFile47=Improved_No_Glow_v1-MW_Trib_Blood.esp
GameFile48=Juniper's Twin Lamps (1.1 Tribunal).esp
GameFile49=KS_Julan_Ashlander Companion_1.1.esp
GameFile50=K_Potion_Upgrade_1.2.esp
GameFile51=k_weather.esp
GameFile52=Lantern replacer By Leeloo.esp
GameFile53=LGNPC - Foreign Quarter v0.5.esp
GameFile54=LGNPC - Pelagiad.esp
GameFile55=lgnpc_Ald'ruhn.esp
GameFile56=lgnpc_AldVelothi.esp
GameFile57=lgnpc_GnaarMok.esp
GameFile58=lgnpc_HlaOad.esp
GameFile59=lgnpc_indarys_manor.esp
GameFile60=lgnpc_khuul.esp
GameFile61=lgnpc_MaarGan.esp
GameFile62=Lgnpc_SN.esp
GameFile63=LGNPC_Tel Mora_v1.02.esp
GameFile64=LGNPC_Vivec_Redoran.esp
GameFile65=Lights_300_V4.esp
GameFile66=master_index.esp
GameFile67=moons_soulgems.esp
GameFile68=MW_CultOfTheClouds_v10.esp
GameFile69=mysticspath.esp
GameFile70=Naked Nerevarine.esp
GameFile71=Nerevarine Greeting tweaks.esp
GameFile72=Nymeria's Faster Walk.esp
GameFile73=Nymeria's Monthly Respawn.esp
GameFile74=Of Love and Ignorance.esp
GameFile75=Oluhan V1.13.esp
GameFile76=P.R.E. v4.0.esp
GameFile77=PeasantGownsReplacer.esp
GameFile78=PeasantGownsReplacerTRIB.esp
GameFile79=PW_Cait_Moose.esp
GameFile80=ReptileInseparableSiblings.esp
GameFile81=RheddHeads Bret_F01.esp
GameFile82=RheddHeads DElf_F01.esp
GameFile83=RheddHeads Nord_F01.esp
GameFile84=RheddHeads v1.esp
GameFile85=RheddHeads Vamp.esp
GameFile86=RheddHeads WElf_F01.esp
GameFile87=SG-MW-ecology-BM.esp
GameFile88=Sils_Pottery V1.0.esp
GameFile89=Slof's Better Beasts a.esp
GameFile90=Sris_Alchemy_BM.esp
GameFile91=Stream.esp
GameFile92=Suran Archery Store_v3.0.esp
GameFile93=Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp
GameFile94=Tales of Tel Branora.esp
GameFile95=Tales of the Bitter Coast.esp
GameFile96=TB_packdonkey1_0.esp
GameFile97=TF_longboat_replacer.esp
GameFile98=TG's Simple Elven clothing pack 1.esp
GameFile99=TravelingMerchants-1.2_BETA.esp
GameFile100=VafEx.esp
GameFile101=VA_ElvishKatana.esp
GameFile102=VA_ElvishSabres.esp
GameFile103=VA_OrdReplace_openhelm1.0.esp
GameFile104=VA_TribunalArmour1.0.esp
GameFile105=VA_VagabondSilverSwords.esp
GameFile106=Vivec Marksman's Shop.esp
GameFile107=WolfCompwhite_ver2_1.esp

Posted: **Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:52 am**

Thanks for all you're help. I tried to install a few mods but none of them really worked except for better bodies but that uses something like the installation wizard.

In the video I downloaded a mod and tried to install it but I just cant get it to work.
http://video.google.com/videouploadfini ... DAwMDM.avi
(It got allot smaller then I had thought but I hope you see anything.

Posted: **Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:03 am**

I suggest you install a mod to a desktop folder. Then grab and drop the mesh, sounds, textures, etc folders onto the Data Files folder in your Morrowind directory. Don't worry when it says that there will be over-writing. Once you've moved all the files, tick off the mod in your data set from the Morrowind opening screen, and play.

Posted: **Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:14 am**

I have tried that to but it still dosen't work.

http://video.google.com/videouploadfini ... DAwMDM.avi

Posted: **Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:09 pm**

In my earlier post I gave you a link to a thread where I gave step by step instructions to somebody...

I'm no techie, so they are definitely in lay person's terms

If that doesn't work, I know there are instructions to mod installation on the net as well.

To paste what I said there:

1. I find the easiest way to install mods is manually.
Create a folder on your desktop, and name it according to the mod. Unzip all of the files into your folder. You may need Zip Genius (Free zip utility for Windows - ZipGenius) to unpack the files. It unpacks a wide range of packaging formats, it's free, and it works very well.

2. Now that you have the mod unpacked, what you need to do is copy the plug-in itself (looks like a little swiss army knife or a scrap of note paper), along with any folders marked "Icons," "sounds" "textures," "meshes," music," etc.

3. Once you have hit copy ( I find it easiest to copy any folders etc. all at once), Go to you main Morrowind directory, and then to a folder named "Data Files." Open it.

4. Hit paste. You will be told that x,y, and z names already exist, agree to replacing all.

5. Fire up your game, go to "data files" from your game menu, and put a checkmark next to your mod or mods.

6. That's it, you are ready to roll.

Note 1: It is extremely important to read the readmes that come with the mods.

Note 2: Some mods conflict with one another, be sure that those you select do not do so.

Note 3: *Always* back up your Data Files folder and save games before installing any mods, especially the large ones.

Additional Instructions if the above are not clear:

*Go to "Start" (it should be on the lower left of your screen)

*Go to "My Computer." Double click to open it.

*You should see a little icon that looks a bit like a computer somewhere there, probably labelled "C Drive." Click on it, so that it opens. You may have more than one hard drive on your machine, but, I think that by default Morrowind, and any other software you install, will install on the C Drive, unless you specify otherwise during the installation process.

*You'll see some folders in there, double click on the one that says "Program Files."

*In Program Files, you'll see even more folders, open the one that is labelled "Bethesda Softworks."

*Then click on the folder called "Morrowind." Once that is open, you should see a folder named "Data Files"

Posted: **Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:57 pm**

I think I had the same problem as you. In the video I couldn't really see what folder your mod was in due to the Res. I solved my problem by copying the mods to the Data Files folder.

Posted: **Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:12 pm**

I did that dragon, I coped the files and pasted them into "Data Files" but it still doesn't show up in the data files list.

I found you're thread whit the search and I have (as far as I know) followed it to the letter.

If anyone want I can email the movie (I think, it's 4 mb big)

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