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improved inv. + backstab
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2001 5:47 am
by NeKr0mAnCeR
can i still backstab when im partialy invisible ??(major cheese)
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2001 6:25 am
by Vehemence
No.
You are partially visible which means enemies will see you. Thus ruining the possibility of sneaking up behind them again.
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2001 1:04 pm
by Xyx
*** Cheese Alert ***
If you cast Mislead, you can backstab as often as you like.
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2001 1:25 pm
by NeKr0mAnCeR
nice
ill make a party of 3 guys:
mage/thief (multi)
assassin/mage (dual)
assassin/mage (dual)
the cheese loving criminals!
LMAO
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2001 4:00 pm
by ]RiPPeR[
Originally posted by Xyx:
<STRONG>*** Cheese Alert ***
If you cast Mislead, you can backstab as often as you like.
</STRONG>
thanks for the tip, have you tested this?, i will make an assassin/mage now
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2001 4:20 pm
by Fezek
Originally posted by NeKr0mAnCeR:
<STRONG>nice
ill make a party of 3 guys:
mage/thief (multi)
assassin/mage (dual)
assassin/mage (dual)
the cheese loving criminals!
LMAO</STRONG>
ROFLMAO
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2001 1:38 am
by Xyx
I tried with Nalia and it seemed to work fine. For extra cheese, send the decoys out of the bad guys' sight.
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2001 3:45 pm
by jeremiah
Does Shadow Door work the same way?
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2001 4:57 pm
by Quark
Doubt it. After a backstab attack, the engine checks to make sure something becomes 'visible'.
Since the mislead dummy is already 'visible' it doesn't change the main character.
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2001 1:44 am
by ]RiPPeR[
Originally posted by Xyx:
<STRONG>I tried with Nalia and it seemed to work fine. For extra cheese, send the decoys out of the bad guys' sight.</STRONG>
it would be good to have a cloak or spell of non-detection equiped, with it you can kill anythting that does not see invisible creatures(like dragons)
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2001 3:17 am
by Xyx
Originally posted by jeremiah:
<STRONG>Does Shadow Door work the same way?</STRONG>
Nah... Shadow Door gives you invisible and improved invisible status. After you attack (backstab), the invisibile status disappears, leaving you with improved invisible status, which is the 'shimmering'. While improved invisible, you can be spotted, but not targeted with spells. You can only backstab while completely unseen (that is, invisible).
Mislead works differently from all the other invisibility spells in that it constantly re-applies invisible status. After the backstab you become improved invisible for an instant, but then regain invisible status again, allowing you to keep on backstabbing.
This is almost definitely Cheese, especially if you send the decoy away. But hey, if Irenicus can do it...