Transformation stats?
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:53 pm
First of all, there is the Druid who has her own innate ability to transform
Secondly, there is a 5th level spell shape for the wizard and sorcerer.
Thirdly there is the 9th level spell shape for both classes.
Now that that's out of the way, I'll proceed to my question. How are all these monster stats generated? And as a bonus question, does a specialization in Transmutation as a wizard affect these stats in any way?
(Edit: Don't read unless you're easily confused)
It seems to be a strange mix of stacking, ignoring the irrelevant (Charisma) and completely replacing stats, but I just can't figure it out for sure. My wizard has completely different build from the druid, but their 9th spell level shapeshift produced stats that were similar in strength, dex and constitution. Yet if I look at how the Druid's innate shapeshift works it seems to stack stats somehow? Each level, or based on wisdom? I'm not sure, either they have very weird templates or they stack, that's about all I can conclude. The wizard 5th level shapeshift is even stranger. For a moment it seemed as though it copied my int level to a maximum stat respective to the monster type I transform in. Meaning that with 23 int, I'd get 23 strength as an Ogre. Then later on they appeared to vary a little so it may have a coincidence. Or.. I don't know. I'm confused. 23 is a weird number for a stat that's 'replaced' from a template.
I thought about creating a character that specializes in shapeshifting. I think that would allow me to basically have two characters, one for combat and one for high charisma or other things. Stacking would be one reason not to do such a thing, as I would lose the opportunity to get even higher stats in my monster form. But I can't really figure out if I should try the wizard/sorcerer or the druid route. Druids can shapeshift often, wizard get a more powerful form, but later. I need coffee.
What's the deal here?
Secondly, there is a 5th level spell shape for the wizard and sorcerer.
Thirdly there is the 9th level spell shape for both classes.
Now that that's out of the way, I'll proceed to my question. How are all these monster stats generated? And as a bonus question, does a specialization in Transmutation as a wizard affect these stats in any way?
(Edit: Don't read unless you're easily confused)
It seems to be a strange mix of stacking, ignoring the irrelevant (Charisma) and completely replacing stats, but I just can't figure it out for sure. My wizard has completely different build from the druid, but their 9th spell level shapeshift produced stats that were similar in strength, dex and constitution. Yet if I look at how the Druid's innate shapeshift works it seems to stack stats somehow? Each level, or based on wisdom? I'm not sure, either they have very weird templates or they stack, that's about all I can conclude. The wizard 5th level shapeshift is even stranger. For a moment it seemed as though it copied my int level to a maximum stat respective to the monster type I transform in. Meaning that with 23 int, I'd get 23 strength as an Ogre. Then later on they appeared to vary a little so it may have a coincidence. Or.. I don't know. I'm confused. 23 is a weird number for a stat that's 'replaced' from a template.
I thought about creating a character that specializes in shapeshifting. I think that would allow me to basically have two characters, one for combat and one for high charisma or other things. Stacking would be one reason not to do such a thing, as I would lose the opportunity to get even higher stats in my monster form. But I can't really figure out if I should try the wizard/sorcerer or the druid route. Druids can shapeshift often, wizard get a more powerful form, but later. I need coffee.
What's the deal here?