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Just what everybody needed another pointless
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:12 pm
by Curdis
Rant impotently on the internet thread.
On the way to open my shop this morning I passed a truck emblazoned with the slogan "Organic Spring Water".
Now I'm a committed 'old school' hippie environmentalist but that is taking it into the realm of 'Hippie Foo Foo'. With the possible exception of it being a brutally true assessment of the fact that bottled water is more likely to contain active biology than treated tap water, how can spring water be organic? How do you certify it thusly?
I'm so sick of this other S-word.
People *might* have taken the long standing claims of the proponents of the Green cause more seriously earlier had it not been for a seemingly overwhelming culture of blatant new age voodoo that you apparently have to sign onto as well the actual issues.
Thanks for your patience, I feel a little better now. -
Curdis !
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:14 pm
by Siberys
The secret is in the word, Organic coming from an Organism, meaning Soylent Green.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:52 pm
by kathycf
Siberys wrote:The secret is in the word, Organic coming from an Organism, meaning Soylent Green.
Soylent Green is
people...it's people!!!
I tend to agree that organic is becoming a trendy buzzword. To me, it has always meant a product that was produced without artificial fertilzers or pesticides (organically grown tomatoes) or meat products from animals that are fed organic grain and are also free range. Organic bottled water just seems silly.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:28 am
by dragon wench
kathycf wrote:To me, it has always meant a product that was produced without artificial fertilzers or pesticides (organically grown tomatoes) or meat products from animals that are fed organic grain and are also free range. Organic bottled water just seems silly.
Indeed. And the thing is... the fad with bottled water, "organic" or otherwise, has led to considerable depletion of natural aquifers and the like. So, people who think they are being healthy and/or ecologically responsible are actually contributing to a growing problem.
The stuff is also a complete rip off...
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:32 am
by Claudius
I am curious what someone has to do to claim that something is organic? Can it be organic plastic? Can I have organic clothing and speak organic words? With an organic wife and an organic dog?
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:18 am
by fable
Claudius wrote:I am curious what someone has to do to claim that something is organic? Can it be organic plastic? Can I have organic clothing and speak organic words? With an organic wife and an organic dog?
It depends on the laws of the nation. In some countries, you can claim anything. In others, some words are limited in use on or about products, and are required to fit specific meanings. So which country were you referring to?
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:15 am
by kathycf
This gives a bit of an overview that would be relevant for North America and Europe:
Organic farming excludes the use of synthetic inputs, such as synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, herbicides and genetically modified organisms (GMOs). In a number of countries, including the US and most of Europe organic farming is also defined by law, so that the commercial use of the term organic to describe farming and food products is regulated by the government. Where laws exist, organic certification is available to farms for a fee, and it is usually illegal for a non-certified farm to call itself or its products organic. Elsewhere, for example, in Canada, voluntary certification is available, while legislation may be pending.
Methods of organic farming vary. However, organic approaches share common goals and practices. In addition to the exclusion of synthetic agrichemicals, these include protection of the soil (from erosion, nutrient depletion, structural breakdown), promotion of biodiversity (for example growing a variety of crops rather than a single crop or planting hedges around fields), and outdoor grazing for livestock and poultry, though none of these is required in the United States to earn the USDA organic seal
Organic farming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:16 pm
by xxslainxx
dragon wench wrote:Indeed. And the thing is... the fad with bottled water, "organic" or otherwise, has led to considerable depletion of natural aquifers and the like. So, people who think they are being healthy and/or ecologically responsible are actually contributing to a growing problem.
The stuff is also a complete rip off...
*rolls eyes* but but i like the whole fruit2o stuff.. it tastes nice.. mild yet invigorating...
*rolls on the floor uncontrollably soon as the words have been spoken*
I'm so sick of this other S-word.