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Using all level up points

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:34 am
by Aleron
Do I have to use all my level up points, or can I save some for next time I level up?

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:04 pm
by Cyrinn
In NWN, you used to be able to save as many as you like, but in NWN 2 you can only save 5 per level.

Bad news for certain builds, but whatcha gonna do?

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:28 am
by Aleron
I could go on a mad rampage =[

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:10 am
by Siberys
Why would you not want to level up? You do a bunch of hard work to get to that level and you don't want to do anything else with it?

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:54 am
by Xandax
Well, there is a tactical reason to save skill points on level up (which is what I think the OP is mentioning). If taking a class which have few class skills, then saving points to another level if taking a class with more class skills, then you can get more "bang for your buck".

I rarely do this myself, very rarely, as I find the skill points you get are enough to do what I want to do, and because one character shouldn't do it all himself, so I like to rely on group members.

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:31 pm
by shift244
Siberys wrote:Why would you not want to level up? You do a bunch of hard work to get to that level and you don't want to do anything else with it?
So I can cheeze! eg: Raise 2 levels of Fighter, and save 4 skill points, then raise a Rogue level after that and max out those 4 points on stealth or speech skills.

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:14 pm
by Aleron
Well, in most RPGs I play I need more than 1 point to up higher level skills.
For example; if I had a combat skill of 10 and had 1 skill point left, I might need 2 skill points to be able to make my combat up to 11.
I assumed this was the same here, unless there is another reason why I cannot up my combat skill with just one point left? Perhaps you can only up it to a certain level per level up?

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:14 am
by shift244
NWN2 works with D&D 3.5 rules. Skill purchases follow a few simple basic rules:

- A character gets a certain number of skill points at level up, depending on the class s/he picks for that level. This is then modified by the Intelligence bonus modifier of that character to a minimum of 1.

- A subset of skills are purchasable at a 1 point for 1 rank rate which is determined by the class chosen. These have a max rank limit of up to Character level +3.

- The rest are purchasable at a 2 point for 1 rank rate. These have a max rank limit of up to 0.5 x (Character level +3).

Under normal rules, I believe, you can buy 0.5 ranks and cannot carry forward skill points.
NWN2 does things slightly differently by implementing carry forward skill points (to a limit of 5) but cannot buy 0.5 ranks in a skill.