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Talent Distribution Discussion
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:23 pm
by darklighter89
No such thread here so I'm making one for you guys to show off your builds. I'm still having exams so I myself can make use of these tips in two weeks time
An Act by Act progression of your talents, and reasons why you chose that path would be useful for beginners like me.
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:30 am
by Xandax
Well, in this game - contrary to so many others, being a "jack of all trades" is actually rather useful, and seeing as combat is rarely *that* difficult and you can be buffed with alchemy the usage of signs - I wouldn't fear "messing" up your character.
But because you'll fight both monsters and humans throughout the game, you should not neglect Steel styles once you get your Silver sword.
I can't give you a "strategy" cause I didn't use one. I simply looked over the abilities and just dabbled my way through them. I did however favour strong and group over fast.
Also as the attributes abilities generally improves all styles, I kept those high.
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:19 am
by Stones
I agree that being a jack of all trades is probably a good thing in this game. You get quite a lot of bronze talents to try out the basics of whatever you like. It's was not until I started getting silver talents I had more trouble of deciding what I wanted. Though I generally go for strength and dexterity first to get the extra damage in every fighting style. But for the fighting styles, I prefer strong and fast over group. I feel it's better to quickly kill one than nibbling away at many. However as mentioned, there's no reason to not take at least some of the talents in every style, in both steel and silver.
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:44 pm
by Varlon
Well, indeed you will have more than enough bronze talents, so you can experiment with your play style up until lvl 15, when you will get silver talents. I chose to specialize mostly in swords, so I'm lvlling all styles equally, since you really use them all. But I'm making emphasis on strong and group though, since in act 5 you will be using group style a lot. As for magic I used only Igni and Aard, but I heard some people were making a successful magic build.
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:58 am
by Ulfang
I think the game promotes you to be a jack of all trades as many of the skills are useful early on. I spread myself between the areas. For instance I decided to learn the alcohol consumption talent so I could take part in drinking games but not long after I learned it the inhabitants of the Inn on the outskirts were wiped out so there was no one to drink with :laugh:
I've not worked on my magic too much at the moment spreading my talents between the Steel Sword and Statistic areas (such as Dexterity, Intelligence etc). I always seem to come across a talent I need just after I've spent all my points on something else
If you're early into the game then the Herb Gathering talent can be very useful.
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:11 am
by Xandax
Ulfang wrote:<snip>
If you're early into the game then the Herb Gathering talent can be very useful.
Oh yes, I'd definitely take that one fast, as early on those potions can really help you out.
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:40 am
by Ulfang
Xandax wrote:Oh yes, I'd definitely take that one fast, as early on those potions can really help you out.
Alchemy is certainly a big part of this game. In most games it's an afterthought or there's no alchemy skill at all you just buy the potions from a merchant but in The Witcher it's well thought out. Having the right potion can make the difference between life and death. For instance without the Spectre Oil I mixed in chapter 1 I'd never have defeated the Beast (I know people can do it without the oil but I'm not one of those people :laugh

It took me eight attempts and reloads without the oil and one attempt with the oil

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:25 pm
by Anti-Saint
It's quite obvious that you will eventually end up a jack of all trades.
Since once you've used up all the bronze talent spaces in a certain area, you are forced to use it on something else, but basically in this game I concentrated on my strength most of the time.
And when I do eventually finish it and play it again to do things differently, I'm still going to be like that.
And for some reason, I tend to rather advance my Steel weapons style, than the Silver, it does come in quite handy when facing those pesky Salamandra and Scio'tel.
Besides, I'm having no problems defeating monsters with just bronze talents assigned to my silver weapon, and playing this game on Hard, and facing Humans is a little tougher for me.
I always find myself using Swallow or Blizzard, though I want to get my hands on Thunder, anyone know the Recipe for that btw?
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:38 pm
by Xandax
Anti-Saint wrote:<snip>
I always find myself using Swallow or Blizzard, though I want to get my hands on Thunder, anyone know the Recipe for that btw?
You should start up a new thread for new questions, however the recipe for Thunderstrike (i think that's the name) is
White Gull as base
Vitrol
Rebis
Hydragenim(sp?)
2x Vermilion

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:59 am
by DesR85
Ulfang wrote: For instance without the Spectre Oil I mixed in chapter 1 I'd never have defeated the Beast (I know people can do it without the oil but I'm not one of those people :laugh

It took me eight attempts and reloads without the oil and one attempt with the oil
I sometimes don't understand why people are afraid of the Witcher's combat system even though it is quite simple to grasp (I'm playing on 'Medium', by the way. Don't know how the combat will work on 'Hard'). It didn't take me more than a minute to understand how it works. Maybe it's due to the fact that I've played many action games but hey, that's just me.

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:21 am
by Ulfang
DesR85 wrote:I sometimes don't understand why people are afraid of the Witcher's combat system even though it is quite simple to grasp (I'm playing on 'Medium', by the way. Don't know how the combat will work on 'Hard'). It didn't take me more than a minute to understand how it works. Maybe it's due to the fact that I've played many action games but hey, that's just me.
Am I to understand by that post that you consider I don't understand how the combat system works? The system is quite simple but that's not to say it's going to be the same for everyone. I wasn't able to defeat the Beast in that example without help from oil on my sword. Each time I died just before killing it. Many people have given similar examples. The thing is it is based on a mix of reactions and is dependant on what bonuses you have due to your skills and how able you are to resist certain powers of your opponent so it can be different for everyone.
I'm quite aware how the combat system works, am certainly not afraid of it and rather enjoy it ... for the most part

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:47 am
by DesR85
Ulfang wrote:Am I to understand by that post that you consider I don't understand how the combat system works?
Oh. Sorry I jumped the gun. Didn't mean to insult anyone here. I didn't mention that you didn't understand the combat system. What I said was why were people concerned about it. That's all. As for the Beast, I haven't fought it yet, but I'll get to it soon enough.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:44 am
by Ulfang
DesR85 wrote:Oh. Sorry I jumped the gun. Didn't mean to insult anyone here. I didn't mention that you didn't understand the combat system. What I said was why were people concerned about it. That's all. As for the Beast, I haven't fought it yet, but I'll get to it soon enough.
That's ok then I thought your quite was directed at me after I mentioned that it had taken me a few tries to finish off the beast. :laugh:
I quite enjoy the combat system and wacthing Geralt make his moves although it can be a bit crazy when fighting multiple enemies but nothing quite like that space key to pause the game and issue orders
