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These guys say they will only work for friends or kin, and I don't have any chat options that would let me get a recommendation from my dwarven friends in the city.

I am actually quite a bit perplexed by this myself, as I sometimes could use the dwarven smiths and other times the order (despite them not liking me much).

My immediate thought is that helping Vivaldi out helps, also that dwarf friend (name eludes me right now), and also a dwarf named Boyus or something - talking to him might help you.
But I never actually found the complete mechanics for those smiths. At one point they wouldn't help me, at other times they did want to.

If the dwarves can't help, try the Order smith instead. (near the stairs down to the slums)

Already done Vivaldi - no option
Zoltan - no Option
Dwarf living in the Hairy Bear in - no option

did I miss any dwarves?

You do not get a dialogue option.
Just "suddenly" they like you, or they do not.

As I've said - I've not found the systematics of it, so I can't help you outside this vague (useless) advice

Unless you been doing missions for the order chat with zoltan a bit and the dwarves will sell to you. Note the dwarves offer the exact same options as the order merchants.

A few spoilers,But worth It

Hi all,Love the Witcher AWSUMMM game,i got my recommendation by saving a she elf female i think near the dyke in a hut,bit hazey as i do a lot of opening door's and looking in a lot of area's ,i've upgraded to a 8800gt 2 gig ddr2 ram and amd athlon 600+ cpu Just for this game,was time for an upgrade anyways,thing's i've noticed combat unless you have the right sword/stance for what /who your fighting he looks like a drunk on 12 bottles of beer,no idea what he's doing,get the right stance/weapon and look OUT!!, he's a killing machine....Also dice gambeling is the key i think to buying what you want and still keeping $2000 gold in the purse.I'm no expert but think this is THE RPG what ever label you wanna put on it of the year,o i like to fist fight to,a lil gold here and there helps.

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At some moments in the game, you will have the decision to help the Order or the Scoia'tael. If you help the Order, The Order blacksmith will open for you. If you help the Scoia'tael, the other will.
...I think so

I had stopped the squirrels, which Haren then betrayed. When I ran into Vivaldi, the city guard was arresting him for his nephew being a Squirrel, I bailed Vivaldi out of jail and after proving his innocence in the investigation...he recommended me to dwarf smiths.


It was 20 orens cheaper than the order smith.

Pyrohemia wrote:It was 20 orens cheaper than the order smith.

Really? :speech: But the last time I checked, the prices offered by both the dwarven and the Order smith are still the same (yes, I checked the sword price and the armour at that time. Still the same).

Yes, the dwarven smith sells you the lightning rod cheaper. The order smith gives you a higher price because he had to use Mahaklan (sp?) hammers which are rare finds for humans. All in all it evens out, since you have to bail Vivaldi out of jail.


(I find the dwarves to be cooler anyways.)

Cryomancer wrote:At some moments in the game, you will have the decision to help the Order or the Scoia'tael. If you help the Order, The Order blacksmith will open for you. If you help the Scoia'tael, the other will.
...I think so

yep, thats it !!!

Just help Vivaldi