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Jon Irenicus
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2001 6:11 am
by Loredweller
Have you known?
Jon Irenicus, level 29 mage, *chaotic good(!?)* (LOL), *grender neither*, HP 96, THAC0 11, attacks 1;
str 13, dex 18, con 14, wis 18, int 18, cha 17,
lore 87, luck 0
resistances: fire, mag.fire, cold, , mag.cold, electr., acid - 100%;
magic - 50%;
piercing, slashing, crushing, missle 0%
saves: death 8,wand 3, polym. 5,breath 7, spells 4;
at least such he comes to you in dreams
Best luck,
L.
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2001 6:42 am
by Loredweller
But in the Hell he is already male, neutral evil and level 30 mage

L.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2001 6:46 am
by Manveru
Irenicus should be the most powerful mage in this game (BG2-SoA not in ToB). So he should have 25int and 25wis.
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Elen sila Lumenn' Omentielvo
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2001 6:54 am
by Siike
Why should he have int/wis 25? A mage can be powerful without being über-human. After all, Irenicus isn't far from human/elf.
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2001 7:14 am
by Manveru
It would make me feel better if I knew that his char. were so good when I was killing him.
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Elen sila Lumenn' Omentielvo
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2001 7:22 am
by Pe Ell
D*mn, now we know his name and his stats, that will make killing him so much harder.
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When there is no wrong, there can be no right.
When there is no darkness, there can be no light.
And when there is no evil, there can be no good.
~Just a few words of wisdom from a proud member of the Brotherhood of the woods
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2001 7:27 am
by sigurd
Irenicus Is elf im i am not mistaking, since the story tells he was an outcast.
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2001 7:32 am
by Pe Ell
Yep, he was an elf but they removed his immortal elven soul. Guess he is just some kind of scale now...
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When there is no wrong, there can be no right.
When there is no darkness, there can be no light.
And when there is no evil, there can be no good.
~Just a few words of wisdom from a proud member of the Brotherhood of the woods
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2001 7:44 am
by Edwin
Irenicus is not so powerful IMO. Try kill Elminster or Drizzt.....they're more powerful.
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Edwin, mighty member of the Brotherhood of the Spellcasters
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2001 7:51 am
by TheDude
Originally posted by Edwin:
Irenicus is not so powerful IMO. Try kill Elminster or Drizzt.....they're more powerful.
do u confront elminster

??? when ?????
i didn't see him the first time.
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2001 7:58 am
by Edwin
You meet him during Jahiera quest. But you don't have to fight him.....but it's funny trying...
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Edwin, mighty member of the Brotherhood of the Spellcasters
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2001 8:19 am
by Loredweller
Forgot to mention, sorry, he is pure *human*

And in hell he has dex 20.
But it doesn't matter ... Slayer has str/dex/con 25/25/25, base AC -4 (-16 at least in total) and more than 200 HP anyway

Wbw,
L.
PS Well, how about there is not supposed the mage over level 17 in the game? Bah, that fellow already have 5 level 9 spells memorized
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2001 8:32 am
by Mielikki
wtf is a slayer lol
damnit then a slayer should be abel to kill anything.
elminster has 25 constitution (thanx to being one of chosen of mystra) but rest sucks. spells he memorizes is kinda like 9/9/9/9/9/9/9/9/8.
drizzt on the other hand now in 3rd edition AD&D has 25 dexterity. hard to hit that bitch with a weapon

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i dont know the "need" bioware felt when they decided to put the slayer in the game. i mean its like god mode cheat. it ruins the fun in a way but nm...
these are just my opinions
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~Goddess Of Forests and all Rangers~
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2001 9:11 am
by Rodo
The Slayer isn't *that* poowerful. A well balanced drow party or 2 illithids can kill him straight away.
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2001 9:14 am
by Kevin Dorner
Irenicus' alignment is CG at some times during the game because his stats. are the same as Elminster's who is CG, so Elminster's CRE file was copied when they created Irenicus and they forgot to change his alignment (and race.) This is one of the bugs I fixed because it does affect the gameplay/player: casting Protection From Evil doesn't do squat if your opponent isn't of evil alignment.
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2001 12:00 pm
by Loredweller
Well, i speak what i see

I may be wrong about con, but when your protagonist kensai(7)/mage(16) turns to Slayer, you see
STR 25
DEX 25
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AC -16
Base THAC0 0
Main hand THAC0 -9
Off hand THAC0 -10
...
Saving throws:
Paralyze/Poison/Death: -2 (-12)
Rod/Staff/Wand: -2 (-9)
Petrify/Polymorph -2 (-9)
Breath Weapon: -3 (-12)
Spells: -2(-8)
...
Armor class Modifiers
Missile:-1
...
Ability bonuses
To Hit: +7
Damage: +14
Open Doors: 80
Weigh Allowance: 1600
Armor Class: -6
....
Resistance
Magic:40
Jon is something different, yes, his Slayer have CON only 24 (my kensai have 18 normal), but he have HP 212, and all saving throws are 2, resistance to magic is 50 and base AC is -4!
And, if to make your life easier your spellcasting abilities are disabled (item granted and innate (kai) still accessible, though), i guess from his script he still may use his spells to make your life more interesting
May your Protection from Evil never wear off,
L.
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2001 1:18 pm
by fable
Kevin, did I miss that file correcting Irenicus' alignment, or is it only part of the big bugfix file?