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I grew up with the conviction that if you love someone, it's okay to have sex with him or her. I'm not sure about that anymore. I think now that if you love someone, you'll wait until your wedding night to lose your virginity, not before, either with your future spouse, or sometime boyfriend or girlfriend. Your thoughts?

Personally i think that if you are definately commited to the 'right' person then sex before marriage is not really that big a deal. In a perfect world we would all discover our soul mates and get married and everythig would be perfect

I don't need a wedding ring on my finger to tell me that I love someone or not.

Originally posted by Vehemence:
<STRONG>I don't need a wedding ring on my finger to tell me that I love someone or not.</STRONG>

Your right Veh, what i posted isn't exactly what i meant, i mean that if you are commited to a person then marriage is an option that can be explored, you don't hae to marry to enjoy a fruitful life.

let me just stress that i am with the person i love and i wont cheat.

But i dont see anything wrong in sex between two consending adults - doesnt matter if they are not in love or if they are not married.

[ 08-31-2001: Message edited by: Tom ]

Originally posted by Mr Sleep:
<STRONG>Your right Veh, what i posted isn't exactly what i meant, i mean that if you are commited to a person then marriage is an option that can be explored, you don't hae to marry to enjoy a fruitful life.</STRONG>

Very true Sleep. Marriage is simply a social construction. I don't object to it though. But I just find that a lot of preconceptions about sex only occuring after marriage are generally not valid for me. But I'm only one of 7 billion people on this earth, so

I think it depends on your views on marriage - if you view it as a sacred union, then you might be more anti-pre-marital sex. A modern couple can live together and raise a family without ever wanting or needing to get married, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Not a good question. It assumes sex has something to do with marriage.

What about all those people wh have sex with no notion of ever getting married. Y'know, sex for fun? Sex with leather, sex with animals, sex with rubber balls or socks in their mouths and duct tape <snip!>

That's an awful lot of people who wouldn't be having sex if they had to get married.

ROFLMAO @ Grunt

Originally posted by Gruntboy:
<STRONG>Not a good question. It assumes sex has something to do with marriage.

What about all those people wh have sex with no notion of ever getting married. Y'know, sex for fun? Sex with leather, sex with animals, sex with rubber balls or socks in their mouths and duct tape <snip!>

That's an awful lot of people who wouldn't be having sex if they had to get married.</STRONG>

Priest: Do you, Grunt, take this rubber ball to be your faithfully wedded er.. wife?

Grunt: yeah yeah its says no sex before mariage and i cant wait.

Rubberball: *squik*

Congrats grunt

it was a butiefull ceremony

Tom, whilst funny your flame is technically incorrect.

"sex with rubber balls or socks in their mouths"

Notice the sentence structure. the rubber balls and socks part is descriptive of the sex act. i.e. it is not merely "sex with..." but "sex with... in their mouths".

Attempted flaming of Gruntboy score - 3/5 for effort. Poor originality.

if soemone wants to wait, more power to them. as for me...hell no was i ever going to wait.

Originally posted by Gruntboy:
<STRONG>Tom, whilst funny your flame is technically incorrect.

"sex with rubber balls or socks in their mouths"

Notice the sentence structure. the rubber balls and socks part is descriptive of the sex act. i.e. it is not merely "sex with..." but "sex with... in their mouths".

Attempted flaming of Gruntboy score - 3/5 for effort. Poor originality. </STRONG>

thats too late now. you say

Sex with leather, sex with animals, sex with rubber balls

nothing to ba ashamed of

flame

Poor originality

im gutted.

hope things work out btween you and your litlle ... lady.

Well, i think if more people abstained from sex until marriage, it would help to slow or solve a lot of our problems with unwanted pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases. I don't think i need to explain why (it seems kinda obvious), but if anybody wants me to i will.

I myself am still a virgin by choice...things could've gone differently if i was not committed to abstaining from sex until my wedding night. If there is a woman out there made specifically for me, then i love her enough to wait, and hope she does the same for me.

And with that i'm off for my two hours of class and then home for the weekend. Talk to you louts when i get back.


[ 08-31-2001: Message edited by: average joe ]

@AJ that is very responsibile of you.

Originally posted by nael:
<STRONG>if soemone wants to wait, more power to them. as for me...hell no was i ever going to wait.</STRONG>

So it really comes down to personal feelings on what marriage means to you, and what sex means to you. Some people are happy with casual sex, some people want to be in love, some people want to be married. And who are we to say that whichever way isn't right for the person who chooses it?

And some people like puffins.

And people like Tom take it any way they can get it. They don't care if the chickens *are* married.

i am one of those people who can draw a distinct line between sex and love.
sex an animal drive; love is of a higher pleasure than sex, but way too hard to find.

sex can be used for so many differnt things, satisfy lust, recreational fun, and can definitely be an expression of love and passion.

Originally posted by Gruntboy:
<STRONG>And some people like puffins.

And people like Tom take it any way they can get it. They don't care if the chickens *are* married.</STRONG>

that was a consenting chicken. such a lovely piece of poltry


like my new sig guys?

Combine love and sex and you've got yourself a winning combo Much like a hamburger and fries, coca-cola would be the marriage