how come when i join a multiplayer game of Dungeon Siege it kicks me (without any messages to tell me whats going on) all the way back to the games list?
this usualy happens after about 5 seconds to a minute after i get into the game, sometimes it does it right after it gets done loading!
i can host games, and play fine, but noone ever joins so i dont know if anyone can even see it on the game list
i am on a Lynksys router, prolly gota firewall but its disabled in windows XP but it doesnt seem to help. if i have an internal firewall will that even work? how can i disable it
i also read up on the news tab on the games list in dungeon siege and it said to open ports, and that the way to do it was to go to the IP address in the address bar...does this work?
Cant Stay in Game WTF?
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whiskeyjack
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Ok dude,
Heres how it works. With the linksys router you need to remember that your systesm behind the routers have 192.x.x.x.x addresses and they can not be seen by the internet. For ex: There are two private IP address schemes that can not be seen by the internet ( 192.xxx.xxx.xxx and 10.xxx.xxx.xxx). So that is why you can not host and have someone join you. They can not see you.
So that said here is what you need to do. If you jump on a system behind the router and pull up a browser and type in (http://192.168.1.1) you should get a Username and Password prompt that pops up. The Default settings are Username: admin and Password: admin. Ok now when you input the correct username and password you should get a Router configuration window that comes up in your browser. You will see your ip address that the internet sees and your DNS settings etc.etc.etc.
If you look at the top of the page you will see some tabs. One of them says ADVANCE settings and so click on that and you will see some more tabs. You need to select the one that says DMZ HOST. In this setting you will put the ip address of your actual machine... it will be 192.168.1.xxx You will have to see what your ip is by going to START -- Run -- and type command are cmd. A black DOS window will come up and then type at the C: prompt IPCONFIG.... The output will tell you what your ip is currently.
So go ahead and input the last two numbers of the ip in the DMZ HOST setting box and hit continue. Now this maching will be seen by the internet. So you will have to have a firewall in place for your self becuase the router will not do it now that you are the DMZ host. when ever you host a game now people will see the ip address of the router which will not be 192.x are 10.x it will be something else.
Keep in mind that the DMZ host has to be a constant ip address. In other words if it is set for 192.168.1.5 for example then the system always has to be 192.168.1.5 for the DMZ feature to work.
There is a setting in the Router configuration window. Look for the Tab called DHCP and disable it.
I have run this for months and have had not one problem. Good luck and have fun.
Whiskeyjack (aka: Crusher)
Heres how it works. With the linksys router you need to remember that your systesm behind the routers have 192.x.x.x.x addresses and they can not be seen by the internet. For ex: There are two private IP address schemes that can not be seen by the internet ( 192.xxx.xxx.xxx and 10.xxx.xxx.xxx). So that is why you can not host and have someone join you. They can not see you.
So that said here is what you need to do. If you jump on a system behind the router and pull up a browser and type in (http://192.168.1.1) you should get a Username and Password prompt that pops up. The Default settings are Username: admin and Password: admin. Ok now when you input the correct username and password you should get a Router configuration window that comes up in your browser. You will see your ip address that the internet sees and your DNS settings etc.etc.etc.
If you look at the top of the page you will see some tabs. One of them says ADVANCE settings and so click on that and you will see some more tabs. You need to select the one that says DMZ HOST. In this setting you will put the ip address of your actual machine... it will be 192.168.1.xxx You will have to see what your ip is by going to START -- Run -- and type command are cmd. A black DOS window will come up and then type at the C: prompt IPCONFIG.... The output will tell you what your ip is currently.
So go ahead and input the last two numbers of the ip in the DMZ HOST setting box and hit continue. Now this maching will be seen by the internet. So you will have to have a firewall in place for your self becuase the router will not do it now that you are the DMZ host. when ever you host a game now people will see the ip address of the router which will not be 192.x are 10.x it will be something else.
Keep in mind that the DMZ host has to be a constant ip address. In other words if it is set for 192.168.1.5 for example then the system always has to be 192.168.1.5 for the DMZ feature to work.
There is a setting in the Router configuration window. Look for the Tab called DHCP and disable it.
I have run this for months and have had not one problem. Good luck and have fun.
Whiskeyjack (aka: Crusher)
hmmmm
what does your 4th paragraph mean? im ot sure i get it....
when i go to the dos thing i get:
192.168.1.100
255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1
u said input the last two numbers....that mean 255.255.255.0 and 192.168.1.1?
or does it mean 1.100 (last two numbers from 192.168.1.100)
to put up a firewalll....can i just check that box in windows xp network settings? will that work? (it says protect my computer from blah blah blah, its under firewall or something)
what does your 4th paragraph mean? im ot sure i get it....
when i go to the dos thing i get:
192.168.1.100
255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1
u said input the last two numbers....that mean 255.255.255.0 and 192.168.1.1?
or does it mean 1.100 (last two numbers from 192.168.1.100)
to put up a firewalll....can i just check that box in windows xp network settings? will that work? (it says protect my computer from blah blah blah, its under firewall or something)
hmmmm
what does your 4th paragraph mean? im ot sure i get it....
when i go to the dos thing i get:
192.168.1.100
255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1
u said input the last two numbers....that mean 255.255.255.0 and 192.168.1.1?
or does it mean 1.100 (last two numbers from 192.168.1.100)
to put up a firewalll....can i just check that box in windows xp network settings? will that work? (it says protect my computer from blah blah blah, its under firewall or something)
what does your 4th paragraph mean? im ot sure i get it....
when i go to the dos thing i get:
192.168.1.100
255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1
u said input the last two numbers....that mean 255.255.255.0 and 192.168.1.1?
or does it mean 1.100 (last two numbers from 192.168.1.100)
to put up a firewalll....can i just check that box in windows xp network settings? will that work? (it says protect my computer from blah blah blah, its under firewall or something)
I was going to suggest setting up a DMZ, looks like you beat me to it Whiskey 
Tuxedo, what Operating System are you working in? There are a number of ways to find out your IP address, but they differ between the different OSes, even within Windows. However, based on the three IPs you listed, your IP is 192.168.1.100, because .1.1 is the router IP. So in the DMZ setup in the Linksys Firmware, type in .1.100 and it should be good to go!
There are two different types of firewalls, software and hardware. Your linksys router is a HARDWARE firewall; it blocks direct connections between the internet and your computer by collecting them centrally and routing them to the respective computers. A SOFTWARE firewall, like the WinXP one and ZoneAlarm, for example, filter the connections once they have already gotten to your computer. For example, a trojan on your computer would be blocked from communicating with the web. Personally, I am working on both a Linksys router and ZoneAlarm (free shareware here) and it works well. I have no experience with the XP firewall, but it should work the same.
Since you are setting up a DMZ, you effectively are bypassing the firewall element of your router, therefore a software FW is pretty essential. Basically, the DMZ works by routing connections to your WAN IP (the IP you get from your Internet Service Provider) directly to your computer. So in order to protect yourself, it is important to run a software FW to filter out what programs you allow to connect to the internet. This is neccessary when you want to run programs like FTP/Web/Game servers, because people cannot connect to your computer otherwise (the only reference to your computer is your local IP which in inaccessable).
Hope this helps.
Tuxedo, what Operating System are you working in? There are a number of ways to find out your IP address, but they differ between the different OSes, even within Windows. However, based on the three IPs you listed, your IP is 192.168.1.100, because .1.1 is the router IP. So in the DMZ setup in the Linksys Firmware, type in .1.100 and it should be good to go!
There are two different types of firewalls, software and hardware. Your linksys router is a HARDWARE firewall; it blocks direct connections between the internet and your computer by collecting them centrally and routing them to the respective computers. A SOFTWARE firewall, like the WinXP one and ZoneAlarm, for example, filter the connections once they have already gotten to your computer. For example, a trojan on your computer would be blocked from communicating with the web. Personally, I am working on both a Linksys router and ZoneAlarm (free shareware here) and it works well. I have no experience with the XP firewall, but it should work the same.
Since you are setting up a DMZ, you effectively are bypassing the firewall element of your router, therefore a software FW is pretty essential. Basically, the DMZ works by routing connections to your WAN IP (the IP you get from your Internet Service Provider) directly to your computer. So in order to protect yourself, it is important to run a software FW to filter out what programs you allow to connect to the internet. This is neccessary when you want to run programs like FTP/Web/Game servers, because people cannot connect to your computer otherwise (the only reference to your computer is your local IP which in inaccessable).
Hope this helps.
whoa
alright thanks a lot everyone!
but before i do it (i have to get my dad to do it, cuz he changed the lynksys logon pass!), should i wait for the patch to come out and see if that fixes it?
i looked in the readme file and it said if you have windows xp (which i do)
and have internet sharing turned on (which i think i do, cuz all 3 comps on my network connect to internet),
then dungeon siege will not work online as of the release date (they must have not have had time)
so should i wait for the patch or do what you told me?
alright thanks a lot everyone!
but before i do it (i have to get my dad to do it, cuz he changed the lynksys logon pass!), should i wait for the patch to come out and see if that fixes it?
i looked in the readme file and it said if you have windows xp (which i do)
and have internet sharing turned on (which i think i do, cuz all 3 comps on my network connect to internet),
then dungeon siege will not work online as of the release date (they must have not have had time)
so should i wait for the patch or do what you told me?
If you are using a router, then you should not have ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) on. The router automatically shares the internet connection without the need for ICS. If it is not urgent to you, then wait for the patch to come out and see if it makes a difference (though I don't think it will). Remember that setting up a DMZ makes your computer more succeptible to attack as it loses its hardward firewall protection. However, if you take the right precautions, a DMZ is not a bad idea at all, and should resolve your problem.
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whiskeyjack
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Dude,
You can reset the password on the router by pushing in the RED BUTTON on the back of the router for 8 sec. It will reset the router of course. Now the password should be Admin and Admin.
Keep in mind that this resets everything to the default settings.
Get your dns settings ( usually two ip addresses) from your internet provider first before doing so. ( you can also get this by typing (ipconfig -all) at the DOS prompt).
Good Luck,
Whiskeyjack (aka: Crusher)
You can reset the password on the router by pushing in the RED BUTTON on the back of the router for 8 sec. It will reset the router of course. Now the password should be Admin and Admin.
Keep in mind that this resets everything to the default settings.
Get your dns settings ( usually two ip addresses) from your internet provider first before doing so. ( you can also get this by typing (ipconfig -all) at the DOS prompt).
Good Luck,
Whiskeyjack (aka: Crusher)