What Do You Want in KotOR III?

[Cesium137]

Cool suggestion about boyfriends/girlfriends fighting over you!
I also very much liked the suggestion about dark side sith missions, fighting other sith fractions for power.

I have some new suggestions, again:
*First, story-controlling mentors, BE GONE!!!! It really pisses me off that, as in KOTOR2, the whole plot actually, when you think of it, circles around Kreia. The game is not about the character, there is very little for me to alter, influence or anything like that, the story is firm, and the TRUE main character is Kreia. Think of it as a movie....then the main character would be Kreia, and your character as most would be the comic side-kick.
Besides, it´s quite obvious she´s gonna turn on you, I realized that pretty quick during my first game. Another thing hooked into this, is the 'You-stay-put'-syndrome. The 'USP'-syndrome is when you´re not able to move as you like. I ask you, how many times do you crash in this game, I mean with spacecrafts? After had your spacecraft crashed on you 2 times and had it stolen once too, the third crash actually makes you start wondering two things:
first, Isn´t there ANYONE able to pilot the spacecraft better than crappy Atton?
Second, was this the best way the gamecreators had to make the story firm but same time make it look as it somewhat flexible?

To be honest, I´m on to my second game of KOTOR2, this time as dark, completed first time as light, and I must say, that this game is way behind the original KOTOR. Especially when it comes to re-playability. And, replaying KOTOR meant that I found a lot of different side-missions I´d gone by previous times I played it, so not in KOTOR2, to my dissapointment.

[Exil]

r u a girl?

[Darth Coran]

I imagine Jango and Boba are mandalorian since in the guide to every starwars item it said Boba's armor is custom made mandalorian armor and are referenced as Mandalorians in multiple Star Wars books.

[Darth Coran]

see just how hard it is to get a lightsaber through those tiny visers

something else I want on the KOTOR III disc is at the menus you can choose to do the Mandalorian wars campaign and go through it as either:Revan,Malak,the Exile,A soldier,a grenadier,a tech spec,a pilot,or a Medic.and the non-jedi groups could get clone armor =D



edit:now obviously each style would have its strengths(grenadiers = unlimited grenades medics can slwoly heal,ect.)

[Cesium137]

Whatever KOTOR III will be, I at least hope I´ll never see anything like Kreia again, she really pisses me off. I´d say it´s really frustrating not being able to make your party consist of those you want just because she´s supposed to do her little stuff about the plot here and there and bla, bla bla. That and the constant spacecraft crashes that lefts you stranded at this planet or that. I´d say, If you can´t make a solid plot, and a game that allows for the PLAYER to choose the course of action, then don´t do a damn ROLE-PLAYING-GAME. Stick to GameBoy or something like that. I would be perfectly happy with having Kreia for instance staying on the ship and just take care of the guiding in the way of the force. But I do NOT wish to drag the old hag into battle, just because the story-writers don´t know how to make a solid game.

[Marik_Chanro]

I Would Like It If KOTOR III Is Like The REAL Star Wars Roleplaying Game Where You Can Choose From Over the 569 Species Like In The Ultamate Alien Anthology (Miraluka,Kel Dor,S'kt'ri,etc...)I was Thinking About Your Character Actually talking In Dialogue Mode (Like In The Phantom Menace Game) There Should Be Tattoos That You can have Zabrakian Tattoos I Have Been Thinking A Lot About This And I Was Thinking You Can REALLY Make Your Lightsaber(Single,Double,Triple) I Drew Up An idea And It Is A Triple Bladed Lightsaber This Can Be Used In The Games. But you Have To Take Weapon Fanesse In It... Ceisium Calm Down Kreia Was Kool When She Got The Hell Beat Out Of Her By Sion (talk 2 kreia and say a lot o' things about sight and she will tell u a story and u will see the clip)

[Exil]

Are you saying that kreia talks about a tripple bladed lightsaber in the game and shows a clip of it????

[Cesium137]

[QUOTE=Marik_Chanro]Ceisium Calm Down Kreia Was Kool When She Got The Hell Beat Out Of Her By Sion (talk 2 kreia and say a lot o' things about sight and she will tell u a story and u will see the clip)[/QUOTE]

I´ve seen most of what´s in this game, Marik, but what bugs me with Kreia is that the game itself, the STORY, is more built around Kreia than your character. That´s crappy in my point of view.

Gotta say I kinda liked the Darth Vader pic you had though

[Soulforged]

What I Want To Kotor Iii

First of all if anybody paid atention to the final words of Traya you will notice that if Revan even shows up in the next Kotor then the storyline will not progress on the core worlds like Coruscant or in this worlds of this two games it will take place in the Unknown Regions and far beyond the Republic space. If this is what you are wishing for then if you are a Jedi you will be alone again and maybe with the company of new races (non-jedi) in the time and with luck with the exile and Revan ("...she went to fight the true Sith in the... "- or something like that Darth Traya said).
Personally if that is actually the plot line i want larger worlds and non a single clue of what i have to do from time to time, for the challenge. The graphics are OK but if they improve it i fear that I'll be not able to play it, so please think in the poor little guy with the 64mb on the accelerator card. There is something that will look very cool:
-the light sabers are in the belt of the jedis while not in battle.
-when you change the light saber form it changes your possition on battle (there are some interesting positions on both the films of Star Wars and in the art of the Kendo, Samurai).
-i know that is much but i want a little walk instead of running all the time.
-if you reach mastery on the light side then you could have a little aura very tiny just to make the color of the skin shine whether black or white or other races colors.
-the lightsaber has to do much more damage, and the minimum damage dealt is to low. It doesn't matter if you touch or if you actually smash your oponnent it's foccused laser what are we talking about it has to burn it has to hurt. And this takes me to other subject, whit the lower and normal characters its ok that the defense is low. But whit the great and finals? The strong characters as Marter Jedis or Sith Lords they have to be better prepared to fight, i mean whit my Jedi Guadian/Weapon Master it was the easiast thing to use Enlightmeant and destroy Sion i've never see such an easy fight. The key is not in increasing the vitality points but in changing they defense ratings. With Enlightmeant only i was able too reach 50 on defense i was almost untouchble for Jedi Master and Sion only touch me three times in all the battle. I'm not saying that you've to put heavy armor on them (that's not Jedi at all) but you can add feats and force powers that greatly increse they defense rating. There has to be much more saber struggle and blows avoiding than hits success, in fact one success and the oponnent will be almost dead. What i mean is like a dance (the dance of death if you like it) dancing for all the scenario lightsaber vs. lightsaber and force powers realy devastating. If somebody touches the other it will be the exception and not the rule. I think that making the battles more beatiful and long it will make the game itself much interesting.
-Other thing from the time that i saw Atris and Nihilus i was expecting a great lasting battle beetween the two and vs me. But the two fights were so easy that i almost don't paid attention to use forcepowers or even lightsaber forms, i always used master flurry and always win easy. The Jedis don't have to wear some Matrix Armor too be better fighters they have the force on they side, they can jump, almost fly, make all kind of acrobatics, attack from all the angles, camuflage them self at enemy sight. The Jedis ar superior in everything too other classes, make that count. And if you incounter one of this Jedis that all the time say that the dark side makes them more strongthan ever (bla,bla,bla...) how is that i dont see any difference beetween me the lightsider master and them the darksider lord, the dark has to improve much more their connection to the force and make them stronger but changing they aparence, physically, too reflect his level on the dark side, there is much you can do too compensate this differences with the lightside, making the darksiders less charismatic for example, or making the costs of lightside power to cost much more than the relative cost that a Jedi will have if uses a dark side power, reflecting their lost of connections to other and to the light.
This is all for now, sorry for the bad english.

[Maedion]

-New Races
-More Portraits for Gender
-More planets
-More cities
-Mandalore return
-Revan return (sith)
-Bastilla return (sith)
-no more dead planets... korriban was boring
-more options in dialogue as to kill when wanted
-more lightsaber damage, no vibroblade can match a lightsaber
-return of old characters and a few new ones.
-side missions
-harder to switch between light and dark... u switch to easily
-balance the force points/damages of force
-more colors for lightsabers
-custom hilts
-option for foot items (gauntlets and belts and armbands... but no boots?)
-more lightsaber designs and styles
-LESS BUGS AND GLITCHES MEANING NONE
-more force powers and feats...(there didnt seem to be enuff melee feats to satisfy)
-more sith/jedi classes
-Ability to stay neutral in the force..nor dark or light
-LIGHT POWERS THAT ARE OFFENSIVE
-new droid model for party
-more skills
-whole suit armors.. (armor that uses head and middle equip slots)
-more melee weapons (clubs ect... not all swords and staffs)
-another bond with a certain NPC
-A WAY BETTER ENDING
-new energy shields
-day/night features
-NPC NAMED MAEDION
-NPC NAMED MAEDION
-NPC NAMED MAEDION

[Admo]

I agree with everything but you are missing the point on light-side powers. The "offensive" powers (Stun/Stasis, Destroy Droid, maybe one or two more) are as offensive as a Jedi would ever get. The dark-side is used to destroy, cripple, and weaken - the light-side is used to give strength and heal. Notice that dark-siders don't have many decent buffing powers, while light-siders get the uber-power Enlightenment. As long as you have Master Speed, Valor, and Armor, you are going to reign supreme over most Dark Jedi!

[Exil]

1. Change the game engine new graphics pls.
2. No major bugs and less complicated ffvii wannabe plot.
3. Y not 2 player mode; master and padawan???

[Cesium137]

Exil´s suggestion was the most creative and cool I´ve heard ever!! Master-Padawan two-player mode!!
Brilliant suggestion Exil!
In single player you could have it as in NwN then.....

[Soulforged]

I think that the real problem in make an history master-padawan is that the plot (tough original) is not so interesting, it's not even an epic one. It will get very boring after 10 or 15 hours of playing. I have some ideas to the plot, but personally if it's good writed an developed i really don't care what it will be. My prioritys is the change of the engine, of some rules (talking about combat and lightsabers) and the choices of races, classes and worlds. I would love to see Coruscant and speek to the High Council rebuilt, but if the plot runs inmidiatly after the Sith Lords i fear that it would be located in the Unknown regions, and again talk about the ****ing Revan, Bastila and the Exile. Some times is better to leave the past behind and try something new, none of the two games even touch the Core World.

[Kienan]

The thing I most want is an editor like in NeverWinter Nights. This game is set up perfectly for editablity but there is almost nothing...This game is similar to NWN and that game had very good editor. You could edit ANYTHING...I think it would be so cool to be able to make my own stories in the Star Wars universe. That is definitly my first wish. THAT WOULD BE SO COOL!

[Darth Coran]

adorable aliens =P

something else I forgot to add,I'd like an ithorian on the team(dont look at me,I just think ithorians are adorable),maybe he could be a jedi and he(and only he)has a bunch of different healing and stat boosting powers but no real combat stuff.

[White_SheWolf]

1. Better Graphics, better music
2. Smarter AI
3. More and better catch phrases, Atton saying "More where that came from!" over and over in battle gets annoying...
4. more choice when creating your character
5. More Planets and cities
6. More variety in creatures and such
7. more customized lightsabers
8. night/day feature
9. HK-47 and T3-M4 return
10. Carth returns
11. Atton returns (as Jedi)
12. Bastila returns (as sith)
13. Two Player mode That'd be awesome! ^_^
14. Harder battles
15. NO GLITCHES!!!
16. Use Landspeeders, swoops, ect to get around
17. More offensive force powers
18. More Melee feats
19. More varing species in your party. I.E More non-humanoids
20. Great Storyline

[Bror Jace]

Id love to see a few more planets.

Coruscant
The Corellian System
Bakura
Thyferra
Devaron
Ryloth
Mykr
Mon Calamari
Yavin 4
And many more.
And I loved the Selkath planet in the first one!

[Kienan]

[QUOTE=White_SheWolf]1. Better Graphics, better music
2. Smarter AI
3. More and better catch phrases, Atton saying "More where that came from!" over and over in battle gets annoying...
4. more choice when creating your character
5. More Planets and cities
6. More variety in creatures and such
7. more customized lightsabers
8. night/day feature
9. HK-47 and T3-M4 return
10. Carth returns
11. Atton returns (as Jedi)
12. Bastila returns (as sith)
13. Two Player mode That'd be awesome! ^_^
14. Harder battles
15. NO GLITCHES!!!
16. Use Landspeeders, swoops, ect to get around
17. More offensive force powers
18. More Melee feats
19. More varing species in your party. I.E More non-humanoids
20. Great Storyline[/QUOTE]
I agree with all of the above. THank you for putting so much though into what you want. I only mentioned one thing that I could think of at the time. Thanks again.

[Darth Lightside]

wish list

-more named equipment and more "usable by" equipment. For example Jolee's robes and Mira's Balistic Mesh Jacket respectively. The "usable by" items should be worth using for more than just the intro level. Atton's jacket sat in my inventory for ninety percent of my game. Perhaps an upgrade option aside from just the standard overlay, underlay, weapon upgrades. As for named items, I think it is really neat to see a recognized name when you pick up an item.

-character creation history. Rather then wasting a conversation opportunity talking about previous games take a couple minutes to enter in pertinent details at the start and have them alter parts of the game.

-choice of party members. Playing my dark side character I wanted nothing more than to turn Mira into a killing machine and punish her conscience. But I got the wookie. This could tie in to the above point as well. If you choose the exile to be dark side then there would be no returnies from kotor II. but if he was lightside you would. a big part is the option of turning away party members. I hate G0-T0 and never wanted him.

-influence. I think the influence idea was great but it could use a little continuity (the Atton thing already mentioned). As well all non-droids should be able to become Jedi, or training should be scrapped altogether. At the very least there should be a good reason to talk to the non-converts. I always got influence with T3 but never G0-T0, Kreia, Visas, I don't really talk to Hanharr much either. And I only ever heard mandalore's voice when I had to.

-light vs dark. Siding with the republic shouldn't automatically be the lightside approach. in fact I would like to see that toned down as I will describe in my plot synopsis. Killing shouldn't be the only path to the darkside either.

-lightsabres. Fisrt off I want to start with a damn lightsabre. If they insist on having us hunt for lightsabre parts perhaps they can make it interesting by making that lightsabre you put together be custom with some personal things. Definately happy with the personal crystal idea. As far as form goes you should have to be committed in your style. You were equally good with all forms in KOTOR II. I think that you should be able to use all of them but you can put feat spots into mastering them once they are learned, perhaps have a new level up option so you can choose which forms to learn and which to focus on. I also want a great lightsabre!

-more variety in force powers. It's not that I was dissappointed with the amount of powers I am just greedy and want more. The lightside force enlightenment is a cool power concept. Perhaps more things like that, or somethign totally new. Revitalize is my favorite power! or it would be if my party ever died.

-pazaak. I love this game. I want different cards and more of them! Greatest game ever! more chance to play for stuff and more opportunity to buy cards would rule

-tougher battles. Well that is not exactly right, more challenge at the end and less at the start. I barely get through mercs in the Ithorian compound but I cut through traya like butter.

-The jedi council to survive the whole game!!!!

-an option to save a main villain that actually works

-plot synopsis. You are a jedi at an enclave (probably Dantooine for plot reasons) and there is a disturbance that you are sent to investigate. The search leads you to the old star map cave where the force focus of the area allows you to receive an apparition from the outher rims saying that there is an attack from the true sith mounting in the ouer rims (based on your choices for Revan, the Exile at character creation this could come from one/both of them or if both are dark side, the force ghosts of the dead council from KotOR II) and that you should visit important spots in the life of each Revan and the Exile to find the key to finding your way to the outer rim. You alert the new Jedi council (consisting of Jollee, Visas, The Handmaiden/Disciple (based on Exiles sex), and optionally Bastilla (based on Revan's alignment, replacable by Juhanni) ther are other familiar Jedi based on the choice of The exiles dark or lightness ie Mira/Baodur) and they send you to the unknown world/starforge and Malachor to find clues. At this point they introduce your new character to Admiral Onasi, who gives you a ship to travel in. It is Conveniently the Ebon Hawk and conveniently comes with an astromech droid (T3-M4) and you are allowed to choose one jedi from the academy to accompany you. Dark or Lightsidedness will affect the clues you find and where you start in the outer rim. Which is where you go next. These clues will come from the spirits of Malak/Bastilla (if she isn't on the council) and Sion/Kreia depending on light or darkness. The clues lead you to Korriban or Dxun (either I can't decide) where you use the temple of Freedon Nadd or Exar Kun to open a gate to the outer rim. On your travel you can meet other companions who are also looking for Revan and the Exile. It is possible that they have since taken on students themselves or have other such helpers to recruit, or they can come themselves. Once there you come face to face with the true struggle of light and dark. You meet any combination of Revan/Exile/new Sithlord/Forgotten Jedi hero(who was just corrupted if both Revan and Exile are lightside). Your journey in the outer rims completing various goals (not all the same) for whichever side you are on. It is prudent to note now that once you choose a side, you can't switch. Details of the planet are up to the designers. Upon completing you are informed that you must return to Dantooine where you will explore a new part of the planet to confront the escaped dark lords (or champions of light who have retreated to warn the republic) Epic battle ensues, game over lots of old an new faces (forces ghost are wonderful and I would say this is epic enough to justify so many, it is the existence of the galaxy you are fighting for) you win galaxy saved or destroyed. If you save the galaxy there are at least half an hour of cutscenes where all the loose ends are tied up. If you are dark side, many cutscenes of death and destruction where familiar faces meet their fate and all that. Best Ending to me would be if you are light and Revan and Exile are dark and you ACTUALLY SAVE THEM!!!

so ya that's Kotor III in my imagination