[QUOTE=Darth_Juro]If you do that then with the battle system kotor has you'd end up being all robot. In order for something like that to work you'd have to make the battle system one hit kill....even then it would be hard to face multiple enemies at once.[/QUOTE]
I agree and disagree i'd like a new ear but not too far off,i'd like the whole becoming a jedi thing (instead of the amnesia story lol ) for a change but the whole cuttin off hand thing is a bit too much.
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marten0305
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It has been far too long people of the KOTOR III thread!
Yes I am back and have just finished reading so I am up to date. I think taht Revan as the ultimate bad guy would be great. I just think that it would suck to have to kill him. Let's face it if Revan has conquered the True Sith he isn't likely to think himself inferior like Juhani in KOTOR I. He is far too smart for that. But I like that idea too much to end it there. I think that it should be that Revan is LS or DS and the Exile is the other. (Revan:LS, Exile
S)It would be that Revan went off to see what the TS would be like. Exile follows and ends up narrowly saving Revan from the TS - helping Revan escape. Exile gets torchered and eventually falls to the DS. Revan returns to try and mount a resistance. Revan finds all Revan's and Exile's followers; Mission, Zalbaar, Cath, Bastilla, Jolee, Juhani, Mandalore/Canderous, HK-47, T3-M4, Deciple, Handmaiden, Atton, Visas, Mira, to try and rebuild order. Revan gets reformed to the LS and recuilds a temporary attack force. They work to find all the self-exiled Jedi. You are one of those Jedi. It gives you all this history then just as Revan sends out the NPCs from the past to look for anyone who can wield a saber, it gives you your character creation screen. Choosing from several races, etc. you also choose your career. These factors decide where they find you. There is more but I am extremely tired. I started this thread several hours ago but got distracted. I'll finish some other time.
Long and short of it. Revan and Exile end up leader of Jedi and Sith Lord. You play LS/DS and kill both or save both.
Yes I am back and have just finished reading so I am up to date. I think taht Revan as the ultimate bad guy would be great. I just think that it would suck to have to kill him. Let's face it if Revan has conquered the True Sith he isn't likely to think himself inferior like Juhani in KOTOR I. He is far too smart for that. But I like that idea too much to end it there. I think that it should be that Revan is LS or DS and the Exile is the other. (Revan:LS, Exile
S)It would be that Revan went off to see what the TS would be like. Exile follows and ends up narrowly saving Revan from the TS - helping Revan escape. Exile gets torchered and eventually falls to the DS. Revan returns to try and mount a resistance. Revan finds all Revan's and Exile's followers; Mission, Zalbaar, Cath, Bastilla, Jolee, Juhani, Mandalore/Canderous, HK-47, T3-M4, Deciple, Handmaiden, Atton, Visas, Mira, to try and rebuild order. Revan gets reformed to the LS and recuilds a temporary attack force. They work to find all the self-exiled Jedi. You are one of those Jedi. It gives you all this history then just as Revan sends out the NPCs from the past to look for anyone who can wield a saber, it gives you your character creation screen. Choosing from several races, etc. you also choose your career. These factors decide where they find you. There is more but I am extremely tired. I started this thread several hours ago but got distracted. I'll finish some other time.Long and short of it. Revan and Exile end up leader of Jedi and Sith Lord. You play LS/DS and kill both or save both.
Bao-Dur: I think he wanted us to give up the Genreal to his poorly trained collection of bounty hunters.
Atton: Ah. well that would explain it. Which one do you want?
Bao-Dur: I'll take the stupid one who decided to threaten us rather than shoot us when he had the chance.
Atton: Ah. well that would explain it. Which one do you want?
Bao-Dur: I'll take the stupid one who decided to threaten us rather than shoot us when he had the chance.
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I wouldn't mind seeing things like romance or what have you in kotor III. What I'd really want to see is characters and allies that reflect your actions....say your darkside then your party members are evil and their dialoge reflects their allignment I mean seriously I trained all my allies that could be jedi into Dark Jedi but they still had the same lightsided dialogue....save the republic evil is bad etc....same with lightside....thats one of the major problems I had with kotor I & II....another major problem with both was the lack of options to be a sith.....sure you can do evil things and kill who you want but your still a jedi....the only real options the game gave you to be sith was at the end....me personally I spent hours on end doing evil things only to have the game's story line follow the same generic save the republic stuff both had.....take kotor I for instance....on korriban you go to the sith training center and you do all that and you pass(evil) but your not a sith and the sith are still after you....kotor II you got prestige classes I always chose Sith Lord but I was still playing pretty much as a jedi to save the republic.....what if in kotor III you get a choice where and what you want to train as....Dantooine for Lightside Jedi or korriban for Darkside Sith or what have you....give the options for more planets,quests,lightsabers,allies,enemies etc.....Make large scale battles playable like the Telos invasion on II....each planet have more than one city to go to....I mean if xbox can make games like mirrorwind and fable, etc...then they have the space and ability to make something like that. Also lightsaber colors they should make more I mean we have hundreds of colors now they should have more than 9 lightsaber colors....and realistic colors not that black or white stuff cause remember the crystal is to focus energy and the blade color is the product of that. Have more transport options then the same ebon hawk(don't get me wrong the ebon hawk is a historical landmark with kotor series) but that ship is too old and out of date. I'd also like to fight more jedi/sith in kotor III....part one had alot and part two didn't have very many(granted jedi and other force wielders were being hunted in part II). And make the small things noticeable....like on onderon in II when you do the darkside version you get an option saying "Give me your planets Force Sensitives" then thats the last you hear of that.....you should be able to get all rewards no matter what they are if you earned them.....also I'd like to see this HK-50 factory that was cut out.....mostly cause 47% if not 90% of HK-47's dialogue spoke about this factory. Bring back planets from kotor I & II cause each had planets the other didn't....can't really say bring planets from the movies seeing is how this game's story lines are set 4000 years before the movies and I guess it could be a possiblity that those planets have settlers on them and what not...but if they can make that work then all the power to them. I like the lvl system in II but the only way you could get lvl 50 was by glitching(for those who don't know glitching is a form of cheating) and that upset me alot because I don't like to cheat on games. Don't bring back original main players like Revan and Exile as your main character on III because they are overpowered....sure bring them in as NPC's or temp allies but not the main characters.....And if they bring back characters like Mission,Jolee,Carth etc... then towards the beginning of the game give a dialouge that sets your past main character's allignment and that would determine if they show or not....because the whole bring back all characters isn't really fair to the Darksiders like me because in I there was only Bastilla,HK-47,T3,Wookie(forgot name), and Canderous, I killed Jolee,Catwoman,Mission,Carth in part I so if they show up in part II or III then that means I played lightside....which I only did once out of the 57 times I played part one, No offense to you lightsiders out there but bringing them back as a darkside player is impossible. Make credits easier to earn for lightside cause on part I &II darkside had double if not triple the credits lightside would have. Make missions you do reflect your allignment as this ties into the darkside following lightside story line. Back to Romance options I don't want anything pornographic(sorry if that word is against forum regulation) as kids will no doubtly play this game, but make more options to hook up with someone and not that whole "It's the end of our lives" kind of relationship both games offered. Battle system: They really don't need a new battle system like Revenge of the Sith or what have you as this game's series is turn based which made this series as god awesome as it is....but if they change it it should at least stick with the turn based combat it's famous for but add some new animations to it. I'd also like to see more crystals and lightsaber parts....crystals more because if I remember correctly part one and two talked about more caves than that of Dantooine...also bring awesome crystals like Heart of whatever that came in with a patch you had to download...but it's findable without a download.....also don't make the main character overpowered where s/he can kill anyone and anything in under 5 seconds....yes jedi/sith are the strongest beings in the galaxy but seriously killing a main boss in under a min in one fight that just seems unreal.....make some not all but some boss encounters where you don't win the fight the first time. If possible make the option where you can eat,sleep,live somewhere other than your ship. SWG did right in that area where you can build your own house or what have you(not saying this game should go online), but something like buying your own house,condo,apartment etc....would be awesome. Jedi(lightside story line): You should start as a padawan under a master and you train under him learning everything you can and one day something horrible happens and your master dies and your a Jedi Knight when this happens and you take missions/quests to help you come to terms with your grief and in turn bring those responsible to justice(can't kill em though as your a Jedi and you don't kill prisoners). Sith(Darkside storyline): You start off in korriban or malachor V and your learning the ways of the dark side after falling from the lightside after having your master exiled by the Jedi order or killed by a bounty hunter or yourself and you train and decieve all those around you until you become master of the academy and you then begin to train Dark Jedi for your own personal gain and you travel from planet to planet doing Darkside stuff(kill people,kidnap younglings, take over the planet or what have you) and your ultimate goal is to make a name for yourself as the most evil Sith Lord in history by taking out the republic(sorry if the darkside story line is kind of boring) or something along that line of thought. Neutral(Lightside/Darkside story line): You have no sides....you choose what you want to do in the game and you do it...be it bounty hunter,mass murderer,goody two shoes,etc....Companions: People you find on planets you visit or in the Jedi/Sith training centers that follow your view and line of thoughts i.e.:Evil,Sadistic,Relentless(Darkside), Good Hearted,Straight and Narrow, Love for all those around him/her(Lightside) and Neutral would be a mix of between...but you should be able to find non-jedi/sith and jedi/sith but with the non jedi/sith you should be able to train them into jedi/sith. INF: Godly concept there.....the only thing that should change is when you get enough INF with someone that their allignment changes their ideals and views should change to reflect their allignment.
I may think of more things to add later.
I may think of more things to add later.
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i think this game should be about the Galaxy uniting. Before World War II China was torn apart by Civil war and eventually Communist party was temporarily defated by the Nationalists. Then the Japanese began their invasion. Both sides put away their bitter rivalries and united to push out the Japanese. In this case I see Republic and Sith uniting to stop the True Sith. Some people may think Sith vs True Sith? I does make sense to a certain degree. The Galactic Sith want to take over the Galaxy and establish an Empire. From what we know of the True Sith they want to get revenge and obliderate the Galaxy. (Back to WWII) The Leaders of the rivaling parties were Chiang Kai-shek (the nationalists) and Mao Zedong (the communists). Revan and the Exile can fit the role of these two. Of course Mandalore is recruiting and training Mandalorians under Revan's orders as Carth and Bastilla are rebuilding the Republic Army...they too should play a major role.
I see Republic/Sith/Mandalorians all coming together as the underdog to defend the Galaxy from the mysterious True Sith...what are your opinions?
I see Republic/Sith/Mandalorians all coming together as the underdog to defend the Galaxy from the mysterious True Sith...what are your opinions?
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marten0305
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[QUOTE=Tovec]Yes I am back and have just finished reading so I am up to date. I think taht Revan as the ultimate bad guy would be great. I just think that it would suck to have to kill him. Let's face it if Revan has conquered the True Sith he isn't likely to think himself inferior like Juhani in KOTOR I. He is far too smart for that. But I like that idea too much to end it there. I think that it should be that Revan is LS or DS and the Exile is the other. (Revan:LS, Exile S)It would be that Revan went off to see what the TS would be like. Exile follows and ends up narrowly saving Revan from the TS - helping Revan escape. Exile gets torchered and eventually falls to the DS. Revan returns to try and mount a resistance. Revan finds all Revan's and Exile's followers; Mission, Zalbaar, Cath, Bastilla, Jolee, Juhani, Mandalore/Canderous, HK-47, T3-M4, Deciple, Handmaiden, Atton, Visas, Mira, to try and rebuild order. Revan gets reformed to the LS and recuilds a temporary attack force. They work to find all the self-exiled Jedi. You are one of those Jedi. It gives you all this history then just as Revan sends out the NPCs from the past to look for anyone who can wield a saber, it gives you your character creation screen. Choosing from several races, etc. you also choose your career. These factors decide where they find you. There is more but I am extremely tired. I started this thread several hours ago but got distracted. I'll finish some other time.
Long and short of it. Revan and Exile end up leader of Jedi and Sith Lord. You play LS/DS and kill both or save both.[/QUOTE]
Ok first there is no "leader of Jedi" there is a council (i think Bastilla would be on the council after what she has done) and second you really think Revan wouldn't fall to the Dark side again if he conquered TS i mean thats alot of power i think we would just like last time he did but other then that i think you have an excellent idea and i'd like to see it in the next KOTOR game. My version would be Revan once again takes command of a force and conquers the TS then with all his power he has now takes control of the TS instead of ending it and the exile goes and finds the characters of the past and yatta yatta yatta your character creation.
As for Darth Juro's thread in 2 if you notice somewhere in the game carth is admiral and you see Bastilla so they cant be dead as for the reast i'd like to see (as important NPC's) them but i have no reason why they'd be alive. (Handmaiden having her own identity)
ps a great name for your character in all of them is Kotor
S)It would be that Revan went off to see what the TS would be like. Exile follows and ends up narrowly saving Revan from the TS - helping Revan escape. Exile gets torchered and eventually falls to the DS. Revan returns to try and mount a resistance. Revan finds all Revan's and Exile's followers; Mission, Zalbaar, Cath, Bastilla, Jolee, Juhani, Mandalore/Canderous, HK-47, T3-M4, Deciple, Handmaiden, Atton, Visas, Mira, to try and rebuild order. Revan gets reformed to the LS and recuilds a temporary attack force. They work to find all the self-exiled Jedi. You are one of those Jedi. It gives you all this history then just as Revan sends out the NPCs from the past to look for anyone who can wield a saber, it gives you your character creation screen. Choosing from several races, etc. you also choose your career. These factors decide where they find you. There is more but I am extremely tired. I started this thread several hours ago but got distracted. I'll finish some other time.Long and short of it. Revan and Exile end up leader of Jedi and Sith Lord. You play LS/DS and kill both or save both.[/QUOTE]
Ok first there is no "leader of Jedi" there is a council (i think Bastilla would be on the council after what she has done) and second you really think Revan wouldn't fall to the Dark side again if he conquered TS i mean thats alot of power i think we would just like last time he did but other then that i think you have an excellent idea and i'd like to see it in the next KOTOR game. My version would be Revan once again takes command of a force and conquers the TS then with all his power he has now takes control of the TS instead of ending it and the exile goes and finds the characters of the past and yatta yatta yatta your character creation.
As for Darth Juro's thread in 2 if you notice somewhere in the game carth is admiral and you see Bastilla so they cant be dead as for the reast i'd like to see (as important NPC's) them but i have no reason why they'd be alive. (Handmaiden having her own identity)
ps a great name for your character in all of them is Kotor
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Depending on what dialouge choices you chose to use with Atton at the beginning of the game, Revan may or may not have killed both Bastila/Carth, I believe.As for Darth Juro's thread in 2 if you notice somewhere in the game carth is admiral and you see Bastilla so they cant be dead as for the reast i'd like to see (as important NPC's) them but i have no reason why they'd be alive. (Handmaiden having her own identity)
The council is disbanded, if I remember correctly. The Jedi Order consisted of one Jedi or so Atris thought. Therefore she was the leader, as there was no other one trained in the force that could equally assist. The other jedi masters who may have been able to help or were willing to are now dead.Ok first there is no "leader of Jedi" there is a council (i think Bastilla would be on the council after what she has done) and second you really think Revan wouldn't fall to the Dark side again if he conquered TS i mean thats alot of power i think we would just like last time he did but other then that i think you have an excellent idea and i'd like to see it in the next KOTOR game. My version would be Revan once again takes command of a force and conquers the TS then with all his power he has now takes control of the TS instead of ending it and the exile goes and finds the characters of the past and yatta yatta yatta your character creation.
The TS?
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[QUOTE=marten0305] and second you really think Revan wouldn't fall to the Dark side again if he conquered TS i mean thats alot of power i think we would just like last time he did [/QUOTE]
Like Kreia said...did Revan really fall to the Darkside? Or did he just disagree with the Jedi? Just because he didn't want to be the jedi posterboy the council had said he fell. Revan was a dejarik (chess) player. He somehow knew about the True Sith and felt that the Republic wasn't strong enough to beat them...he "fell" to the Darkside for the greater good...he sacraficed everything he was...his teachings...his reputation as savior of the Republic to try and save the Republic. But the Jedi council was too blind to see that and assumed he fell. Ok maybe i would've done that differently...but thru out all of Kotor1 the Galaxy specifically pointed fingers at Malak and not Revan for all the destruction that has taken place. While Revan was Dark Lord...what did he do that was sooo bad? He turned Jedi to the "Darkside"; or did he just open their eyes and pointed out the arrogance of the Jedi Teachings? Revan was preparing for a war of a way Larger Scale! He didn't blow up any planets into submisson out of spite...out of Darkness. He just wanted an Army of Jedi Strong enough to face the True Sith
Like Kreia said...did Revan really fall to the Darkside? Or did he just disagree with the Jedi? Just because he didn't want to be the jedi posterboy the council had said he fell. Revan was a dejarik (chess) player. He somehow knew about the True Sith and felt that the Republic wasn't strong enough to beat them...he "fell" to the Darkside for the greater good...he sacraficed everything he was...his teachings...his reputation as savior of the Republic to try and save the Republic. But the Jedi council was too blind to see that and assumed he fell. Ok maybe i would've done that differently...but thru out all of Kotor1 the Galaxy specifically pointed fingers at Malak and not Revan for all the destruction that has taken place. While Revan was Dark Lord...what did he do that was sooo bad? He turned Jedi to the "Darkside"; or did he just open their eyes and pointed out the arrogance of the Jedi Teachings? Revan was preparing for a war of a way Larger Scale! He didn't blow up any planets into submisson out of spite...out of Darkness. He just wanted an Army of Jedi Strong enough to face the True Sith
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[QUOTE=iNfamous999]i think this game should be about the Galaxy uniting. Before World War II China was torn apart by Civil war and eventually Communist party was temporarily defated by the Nationalists. Then the Japanese began their invasion. Both sides put away their bitter rivalries and united to push out the Japanese. In this case I see Republic and Sith uniting to stop the True Sith. Some people may think Sith vs True Sith? I does make sense to a certain degree. The Galactic Sith want to take over the Galaxy and establish an Empire. From what we know of the True Sith they want to get revenge and obliderate the Galaxy. (Back to WWII) The Leaders of the rivaling parties were Chiang Kai-shek (the nationalists) and Mao Zedong (the communists). Revan and the Exile can fit the role of these two. Of course Mandalore is recruiting and training Mandalorians under Revan's orders as Carth and Bastilla are rebuilding the Republic Army...they too should play a major role.
I see Republic/Sith/Mandalorians all coming together as the underdog to defend the Galaxy from the mysterious True Sith...what are your opinions?[/QUOTE]
Yes the idea works the same way backwards. (Revan for Exile in my plan.) I have always said that the China thing is what should happen. I think it should be that Exile heads out looking for Revan. Ends up sacraficing themself for Revan. Revan returns and unites the warring Sith and Republic in order to survive the True Sith. I say that Revan has to be the one who returns because he is the more important Jedi/Sith of the two games so far. He is also much more charismatic, knowledged and generally just more worthy to unite and then lead a united force. You should be one of the Jedi know went MIA when the Sith of KOTOR II attacked. You were one of the ones who 'hung up the lightsaber long ago'. There is a call for all capable people of all sorts from both the Sith and Republic sides. You are one who answers the call. It could be that you are on Yvin when you get word of the new threat. When it happens you travel from your small farm to the local city. In the city you are offered 2 choices in transport. One leads you to the Sith and the other to the Jedi. Once at either the republic or sith base you get a refresher. You are assigned a snub fighter and a lightsaber. Then you are send on scouting missions to get your feet wet. On these missions you slowly learn about what happened from with Revan and Exile when they went off into the nether regions beyond the outer rim. You also encounter others, when you save them, that offer to assist you on your journey. You return to the United Assembly to report your progress, which is hard to defeat these superpowered True Sith. The allies that you make on the other planets come to the assembly and ask to join you. You say yes but don't know how you are going to function as a team with only your snub. You check around and find 3 possible ships. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. You choose the one that fits your needs the best. You will get to choose from a variety of people with varying skills and histories. You pick your team and are sent on more death defying missions by the Allied forces. You may even be a key player in a space battle or two. Eventually you learn all you can about what happened to Revan and Exile. You also learn of a weakness in their defense. Instead of reporting it you take your team deep into the heart of the True Sith. This final option can only end one of two ways. Similar to KOTOR I. You either completely kill the Sith or rule them and dominate the galaxy. Along the way you can get bonus feats, skills, powers and technologies to improve your chances against the True Dark Lord of the Sith. As far as the planets and what happens on them - I'll leave that to the experts.
To the person above who played both KOTORs as a Darksider, you are missing out. I'm not saying that because I am a lightsider but because I am someone who played both genders both alignments at least two times each. You don't completely get the game when you do it over and over the same way. Your ideas are good but they just don't fit with the KOTOR series that well. I think you need to play both as a lightsider again and then try what you were thinking again. There are definately elements where they could make it a lot more dual than it is but they can't make two seperate stories so that you can go wild as a Sith. As far as wanting to be a mercenary, or whatever, you can be anyway. Just don't use a lightsaber, however the purpose of Star Wars is to be a Jedi/Sith.
A Fable Star Wars would be an awesome idea. I have always thought so. I want to try Galaxies and Episode three and even the Lego game to get a full understanding of where Star Wars can go.
I see Republic/Sith/Mandalorians all coming together as the underdog to defend the Galaxy from the mysterious True Sith...what are your opinions?[/QUOTE]
Yes the idea works the same way backwards. (Revan for Exile in my plan.) I have always said that the China thing is what should happen. I think it should be that Exile heads out looking for Revan. Ends up sacraficing themself for Revan. Revan returns and unites the warring Sith and Republic in order to survive the True Sith. I say that Revan has to be the one who returns because he is the more important Jedi/Sith of the two games so far. He is also much more charismatic, knowledged and generally just more worthy to unite and then lead a united force. You should be one of the Jedi know went MIA when the Sith of KOTOR II attacked. You were one of the ones who 'hung up the lightsaber long ago'. There is a call for all capable people of all sorts from both the Sith and Republic sides. You are one who answers the call. It could be that you are on Yvin when you get word of the new threat. When it happens you travel from your small farm to the local city. In the city you are offered 2 choices in transport. One leads you to the Sith and the other to the Jedi. Once at either the republic or sith base you get a refresher. You are assigned a snub fighter and a lightsaber. Then you are send on scouting missions to get your feet wet. On these missions you slowly learn about what happened from with Revan and Exile when they went off into the nether regions beyond the outer rim. You also encounter others, when you save them, that offer to assist you on your journey. You return to the United Assembly to report your progress, which is hard to defeat these superpowered True Sith. The allies that you make on the other planets come to the assembly and ask to join you. You say yes but don't know how you are going to function as a team with only your snub. You check around and find 3 possible ships. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. You choose the one that fits your needs the best. You will get to choose from a variety of people with varying skills and histories. You pick your team and are sent on more death defying missions by the Allied forces. You may even be a key player in a space battle or two. Eventually you learn all you can about what happened to Revan and Exile. You also learn of a weakness in their defense. Instead of reporting it you take your team deep into the heart of the True Sith. This final option can only end one of two ways. Similar to KOTOR I. You either completely kill the Sith or rule them and dominate the galaxy. Along the way you can get bonus feats, skills, powers and technologies to improve your chances against the True Dark Lord of the Sith. As far as the planets and what happens on them - I'll leave that to the experts.
To the person above who played both KOTORs as a Darksider, you are missing out. I'm not saying that because I am a lightsider but because I am someone who played both genders both alignments at least two times each. You don't completely get the game when you do it over and over the same way. Your ideas are good but they just don't fit with the KOTOR series that well. I think you need to play both as a lightsider again and then try what you were thinking again. There are definately elements where they could make it a lot more dual than it is but they can't make two seperate stories so that you can go wild as a Sith. As far as wanting to be a mercenary, or whatever, you can be anyway. Just don't use a lightsaber, however the purpose of Star Wars is to be a Jedi/Sith.
A Fable Star Wars would be an awesome idea. I have always thought so. I want to try Galaxies and Episode three and even the Lego game to get a full understanding of where Star Wars can go.
Bao-Dur: I think he wanted us to give up the Genreal to his poorly trained collection of bounty hunters.
Atton: Ah. well that would explain it. Which one do you want?
Bao-Dur: I'll take the stupid one who decided to threaten us rather than shoot us when he had the chance.
Atton: Ah. well that would explain it. Which one do you want?
Bao-Dur: I'll take the stupid one who decided to threaten us rather than shoot us when he had the chance.
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[QUOTE=Hill-Shatar]Depending on what dialouge choices you chose to use with Atton at the beginning of the game, Revan may or may not have killed both Bastila/Carth, I believe.
The council is disbanded, if I remember correctly. The Jedi Order consisted of one Jedi or so Atris thought. Therefore she was the leader, as there was no other one trained in the force that could equally assist. The other jedi masters who may have been able to help or were willing to are now dead.
The TS?
-edit- I see now. 'True Sith'. No offense, but one man conquering a nation of people far more vesed in the DS side of the force...?[/QUOTE]
Ok i understand now never thought of it that way (Havn't played the KOTOR games in a while dont have an X-Box no more)
The council is disbanded, if I remember correctly. The Jedi Order consisted of one Jedi or so Atris thought. Therefore she was the leader, as there was no other one trained in the force that could equally assist. The other jedi masters who may have been able to help or were willing to are now dead.
The TS?
-edit- I see now. 'True Sith'. No offense, but one man conquering a nation of people far more vesed in the DS side of the force...?[/QUOTE]
Ok i understand now never thought of it that way (Havn't played the KOTOR games in a while dont have an X-Box no more)
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[QUOTE=iNfamous999]Like Kreia said...did Revan really fall to the Darkside? Or did he just disagree with the Jedi? Just because he didn't want to be the jedi posterboy the council had said he fell. Revan was a dejarik (chess) player. He somehow knew about the True Sith and felt that the Republic wasn't strong enough to beat them...he "fell" to the Darkside for the greater good...he sacraficed everything he was...his teachings...his reputation as savior of the Republic to try and save the Republic. But the Jedi council was too blind to see that and assumed he fell. Ok maybe i would've done that differently...but thru out all of Kotor1 the Galaxy specifically pointed fingers at Malak and not Revan for all the destruction that has taken place. While Revan was Dark Lord...what did he do that was sooo bad? He turned Jedi to the "Darkside"; or did he just open their eyes and pointed out the arrogance of the Jedi Teachings? Revan was preparing for a war of a way Larger Scale! He didn't blow up any planets into submisson out of spite...out of Darkness. He just wanted an Army of Jedi Strong enough to face the True Sith[/QUOTE]
In Star Wars movies 1-3 Anakin falls to the darkside for the greater good. Palpatine convinced Anakin that he was doing the right thing for everybody by turning the republic into an empire.
But more importantly George Lucas himself said in a documentory that Anakin/Vader wasnt evil just mislead. So what i'm saying is the same thing that happened to Anakin, happened to Revan.
In Star Wars movies 1-3 Anakin falls to the darkside for the greater good. Palpatine convinced Anakin that he was doing the right thing for everybody by turning the republic into an empire.
But more importantly George Lucas himself said in a documentory that Anakin/Vader wasnt evil just mislead. So what i'm saying is the same thing that happened to Anakin, happened to Revan.
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[QUOTE=Tovec]Yes the idea works the same way backwards. (Revan for Exile in my plan.) I have always said that the China thing is what should happen. I think it should be that Exile heads out looking for Revan. Ends up sacraficing themself for Revan. Revan returns and unites the warring Sith and Republic in order to survive the True Sith. I say that Revan has to be the one who returns because he is the more important Jedi/Sith of the two games so far. He is also much more charismatic, knowledged and generally just more worthy to unite and then lead a united force. You should be one of the Jedi know went MIA when the Sith of KOTOR II attacked. You were one of the ones who 'hung up the lightsaber long ago'. There is a call for all capable people of all sorts from both the Sith and Republic sides. You are one who answers the call. It could be that you are on Yvin when you get word of the new threat. When it happens you travel from your small farm to the local city. In the city you are offered 2 choices in transport. One leads you to the Sith and the other to the Jedi. Once at either the republic or sith base you get a refresher. You are assigned a snub fighter and a lightsaber. Then you are send on scouting missions to get your feet wet. On these missions you slowly learn about what happened from with Revan and Exile when they went off into the nether regions beyond the outer rim. You also encounter others, when you save them, that offer to assist you on your journey. You return to the United Assembly to report your progress, which is hard to defeat these superpowered True Sith. The allies that you make on the other planets come to the assembly and ask to join you. You say yes but don't know how you are going to function as a team with only your snub. You check around and find 3 possible ships. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. You choose the one that fits your needs the best. You will get to choose from a variety of people with varying skills and histories. You pick your team and are sent on more death defying missions by the Allied forces. You may even be a key player in a space battle or two. Eventually you learn all you can about what happened to Revan and Exile. You also learn of a weakness in their defense. Instead of reporting it you take your team deep into the heart of the True Sith. This final option can only end one of two ways. Similar to KOTOR I. You either completely kill the Sith or rule them and dominate the galaxy. Along the way you can get bonus feats, skills, powers and technologies to improve your chances against the True Dark Lord of the Sith. As far as the planets and what happens on them - I'll leave that to the experts.
To the person above who played both KOTORs as a Darksider, you are missing out. I'm not saying that because I am a lightsider but because I am someone who played both genders both alignments at least two times each. You don't completely get the game when you do it over and over the same way. Your ideas are good but they just don't fit with the KOTOR series that well. I think you need to play both as a lightsider again and then try what you were thinking again. There are definately elements where they could make it a lot more dual than it is but they can't make two seperate stories so that you can go wild as a Sith. As far as wanting to be a mercenary, or whatever, you can be anyway. Just don't use a lightsaber, however the purpose of Star Wars is to be a Jedi/Sith.
A Fable Star Wars would be an awesome idea. I have always thought so. I want to try Galaxies and Episode three and even the Lego game to get a full understanding of where Star Wars can go.[/QUOTE]
thank you at least someone understands.
To the person above who played both KOTORs as a Darksider, you are missing out. I'm not saying that because I am a lightsider but because I am someone who played both genders both alignments at least two times each. You don't completely get the game when you do it over and over the same way. Your ideas are good but they just don't fit with the KOTOR series that well. I think you need to play both as a lightsider again and then try what you were thinking again. There are definately elements where they could make it a lot more dual than it is but they can't make two seperate stories so that you can go wild as a Sith. As far as wanting to be a mercenary, or whatever, you can be anyway. Just don't use a lightsaber, however the purpose of Star Wars is to be a Jedi/Sith.
A Fable Star Wars would be an awesome idea. I have always thought so. I want to try Galaxies and Episode three and even the Lego game to get a full understanding of where Star Wars can go.[/QUOTE]
thank you at least someone understands.
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a different planet
What would be great is:
You are a Jedi Padawan training under Handmaiden/Visas on Coruscant. They go off somewhere else and then you are trained by the other. You finally become a Jedi. You move, build a house on either:
Telos
Nar Shadda
Mygeeto
Taris
and you have an option of planets to go to:
Tatooine
Dantooine
Korriban
Utapau
Yavin IV
Lenico
Geonosis
Raxus Prime
Naboo
Mustafar
Unknown World
Not all of the worlds, however, would have a clue to a problem, not all would have a problem. On your planet you will see
Mission Vao (Joins Party)
Big Z (Joins Party)
Hanharr
your first master
Then you could run into (on Dantooine):
Yuthura Ban
Kel Algwinn (Joins Party)
Atton (Joins Party)
Masters Zhar, Dorak, Vandar, Zez Kai-Ell, and Kavar
On a flight to another world, you fly into a Republic ship and see
Carth (Joins Party)
Bastila (Joins Party)
your second Master (Joins Party)
You can get
T3
HK
Bao-Dur
Exile (on Malachor V)
Canderous
New Characters: Leland, Chee, Jarrdee, Griff, Lena, Sunry
Finally, your party splits up into three groups to find Revan & the Exile. They do, and then find out on five worlds, how to defeat the True Sith.
You then go back to Taris, help rebuild, Telos, help rebuild, Nar Shadda, purify, Correllia, Blenjeel, etc. and train Padawans on Coruscant.
What would be great is:
You are a Jedi Padawan training under Handmaiden/Visas on Coruscant. They go off somewhere else and then you are trained by the other. You finally become a Jedi. You move, build a house on either:
Telos
Nar Shadda
Mygeeto
Taris
and you have an option of planets to go to:
Tatooine
Dantooine
Korriban
Utapau
Yavin IV
Lenico
Geonosis
Raxus Prime
Naboo
Mustafar
Unknown World
Not all of the worlds, however, would have a clue to a problem, not all would have a problem. On your planet you will see
Mission Vao (Joins Party)
Big Z (Joins Party)
Hanharr
your first master
Then you could run into (on Dantooine):
Yuthura Ban
Kel Algwinn (Joins Party)
Atton (Joins Party)
Masters Zhar, Dorak, Vandar, Zez Kai-Ell, and Kavar
On a flight to another world, you fly into a Republic ship and see
Carth (Joins Party)
Bastila (Joins Party)
your second Master (Joins Party)
You can get
T3
HK
Bao-Dur
Exile (on Malachor V)
Canderous
New Characters: Leland, Chee, Jarrdee, Griff, Lena, Sunry
Finally, your party splits up into three groups to find Revan & the Exile. They do, and then find out on five worlds, how to defeat the True Sith.
You then go back to Taris, help rebuild, Telos, help rebuild, Nar Shadda, purify, Correllia, Blenjeel, etc. and train Padawans on Coruscant.
only problems are that zhar dorak vandar zez and kavar are all dead. you cant go to taris, it is a second telos, the atmosphere there is the same as telos when not in the sheilded zones, not possible to get too taris, although if it were a hundred years afterwards with a rebuilt taris and telos, thatd be cool.
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[QUOTE=Phreddie]only problems are that zhar dorak vandar zez and kavar are all dead. you cant go to taris, it is a second telos, the atmosphere there is the same as telos when not in the sheilded zones, not possible to get too taris, although if it were a hundred years afterwards with a rebuilt taris and telos, thatd be cool.[/QUOTE]
Well, maybe somehow they survived (the Ebon did after all those landings, so did Visas, Sion, and Vrook) Anyway, with Taris, there would be the Promised Land, maybe wrecked buildings, because Telos was a grassy planet, and Taris was buildings. Anyway, I want to see Gadon, Shaleena, Rukil, Marl, Ice, Zelka, Janice, etc.)
Well, maybe somehow they survived (the Ebon did after all those landings, so did Visas, Sion, and Vrook) Anyway, with Taris, there would be the Promised Land, maybe wrecked buildings, because Telos was a grassy planet, and Taris was buildings. Anyway, I want to see Gadon, Shaleena, Rukil, Marl, Ice, Zelka, Janice, etc.)
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Mission Vao (Joins Party)
Big Z (Joins Party)
Hanharr
your first master
Then you could run into (on Dantooine):
Yuthura Ban
Kel Algwinn (Joins Party)
Atton (Joins Party)
Masters Zhar, Dorak, Vandar, Zez Kai-Ell, and Kavar
On a flight to another world, you fly into a Republic ship and see
Carth (Joins Party)
Bastila (Joins Party)
You can get
T3
HK
Bao-Dur
Exile (on Malachor V)
Canderous
New Characters: Leland, Chee, Jarrdee, Griff, Lena, Sunry
.[/QUOTE]
only problem with those people comming back....Darkside: Mission gets killed, Big Z gets killed, Carth gets killed. Exile wouldn't be able to come back in III as the exile's face is chose by you and gender...Revan could come back as s/he had a mask...Darkside: Sunry gets death in trial. Griff dies darkside. See all the problems about characters comming back isn't really fair to the darkside players.....yes all were great characters but not everyone plays lightside....and dev's would keep that in mind....granted Big Z could come back after being darkside in part one was if you made him kill Mission....if you wanted massive DS you killed em both....and those jedi masters die when you play darkside....the only logical characters that would be able to come back would be T3,HK,Bastilla,Handmaiden/Disciple,Visas,Bao-Dur,Atton,Mandalore,Canderous,Revan,. as no matter if you played both light and dark in both games those characters are the only one's that don't die on darkside.
Big Z (Joins Party)
Hanharr
your first master
Then you could run into (on Dantooine):
Yuthura Ban
Kel Algwinn (Joins Party)
Atton (Joins Party)
Masters Zhar, Dorak, Vandar, Zez Kai-Ell, and Kavar
On a flight to another world, you fly into a Republic ship and see
Carth (Joins Party)
Bastila (Joins Party)
You can get
T3
HK
Bao-Dur
Exile (on Malachor V)
Canderous
New Characters: Leland, Chee, Jarrdee, Griff, Lena, Sunry
.[/QUOTE]
only problem with those people comming back....Darkside: Mission gets killed, Big Z gets killed, Carth gets killed. Exile wouldn't be able to come back in III as the exile's face is chose by you and gender...Revan could come back as s/he had a mask...Darkside: Sunry gets death in trial. Griff dies darkside. See all the problems about characters comming back isn't really fair to the darkside players.....yes all were great characters but not everyone plays lightside....and dev's would keep that in mind....granted Big Z could come back after being darkside in part one was if you made him kill Mission....if you wanted massive DS you killed em both....and those jedi masters die when you play darkside....the only logical characters that would be able to come back would be T3,HK,Bastilla,Handmaiden/Disciple,Visas,Bao-Dur,Atton,Mandalore,Canderous,Revan,. as no matter if you played both light and dark in both games those characters are the only one's that don't die on darkside.
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Character creation for KOTOR 3
I've changed a few things in my want list based on recent arguments what i'd like to see for character creation is when the player creates the character they start out by choosing a race that determines where they start off, (planet settlement etc...) then they choose gender and class, then a detailed appearance selection, and for the last step they choose the alignment that they start off with (that can change depending on the choices they make throughout the game) which determines what Jedi/Sith master they start out with (can also be changed depending on the choice the player makes) either Bastilla/Handmaiden for lightside (a great name for the handmaiden is Atria) or Visas for Darkside, after the character creation is done the story starts off with the player being a padawan going through the last steps of training. (basic controls tutorial) During the course of the game when it's time to get transportation (Ebon Hawk) the player should beable to choose a different ship for players that want a different ship but for the more traditional players (like me) they should be able to pick the Ebon Hawk. (same with the droids)
p.s an interesting new playable character would be a Fett, (Jando Fett and Bobo Fett) he could be the last Mandalorian (the last mandalorian family) cause if you think about it Mandalore, Canderous, and Jango all sound the same with some differencesbut they all have a deep rugged tough guy voice, and what better occupation for a mandalorian than a bounty hunter.You cant say there is no Fetts 4000 years ago cause in the both KOTOR games you can buy Fett armor that looks like the armor Jango and Bobo use just it looks newer.
I've changed a few things in my want list based on recent arguments what i'd like to see for character creation is when the player creates the character they start out by choosing a race that determines where they start off, (planet settlement etc...) then they choose gender and class, then a detailed appearance selection, and for the last step they choose the alignment that they start off with (that can change depending on the choices they make throughout the game) which determines what Jedi/Sith master they start out with (can also be changed depending on the choice the player makes) either Bastilla/Handmaiden for lightside (a great name for the handmaiden is Atria) or Visas for Darkside, after the character creation is done the story starts off with the player being a padawan going through the last steps of training. (basic controls tutorial) During the course of the game when it's time to get transportation (Ebon Hawk) the player should beable to choose a different ship for players that want a different ship but for the more traditional players (like me) they should be able to pick the Ebon Hawk. (same with the droids)
p.s an interesting new playable character would be a Fett, (Jando Fett and Bobo Fett) he could be the last Mandalorian (the last mandalorian family) cause if you think about it Mandalore, Canderous, and Jango all sound the same with some differencesbut they all have a deep rugged tough guy voice, and what better occupation for a mandalorian than a bounty hunter.You cant say there is no Fetts 4000 years ago cause in the both KOTOR games you can buy Fett armor that looks like the armor Jango and Bobo use just it looks newer.
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[QUOTE=Darth_Juro]Mission Vao (Joins Party)
Big Z (Joins Party)
Hanharr
your first master
Then you could run into (on Dantooine):
Yuthura Ban
Kel Algwinn (Joins Party)
Atton (Joins Party)
Masters Zhar, Dorak, Vandar, Zez Kai-Ell, and Kavar
On a flight to another world, you fly into a Republic ship and see
Carth (Joins Party)
Bastila (Joins Party)
You can get
T3
HK
Bao-Dur
Exile (on Malachor V)
Canderous
New Characters: Leland, Chee, Jarrdee, Griff, Lena, Sunry
.[/QUOTE]
only problem with those people comming back....Darkside: Mission gets killed, Big Z gets killed, Carth gets killed. Exile wouldn't be able to come back in III as the exile's face is chose by you and gender...Revan could come back as s/he had a mask...Darkside: Sunry gets death in trial. Griff dies darkside. See all the problems about characters comming back isn't really fair to the darkside players.....yes all were great characters but not everyone plays lightside....and dev's would keep that in mind....granted Big Z could come back after being darkside in part one was if you made him kill Mission....if you wanted massive DS you killed em both....and those jedi masters die when you play darkside....the only logical characters that would be able to come back would be T3,HK,Bastilla,Handmaiden/Disciple,Visas,Bao-Dur,Atton,Mandalore,Canderous,Revan,. as no matter if you played both light and dark in both games those characters are the only one's that don't die on darkside.[/QUOTE]
I'n not picking on you but you bring up arguable points as i do they could create alignment choice in character creation that determines who's alive and who's not. What do you and all the other players think about that please reply me on this idea i'm interested on this topic
Big Z (Joins Party)
Hanharr
your first master
Then you could run into (on Dantooine):
Yuthura Ban
Kel Algwinn (Joins Party)
Atton (Joins Party)
Masters Zhar, Dorak, Vandar, Zez Kai-Ell, and Kavar
On a flight to another world, you fly into a Republic ship and see
Carth (Joins Party)
Bastila (Joins Party)
You can get
T3
HK
Bao-Dur
Exile (on Malachor V)
Canderous
New Characters: Leland, Chee, Jarrdee, Griff, Lena, Sunry
.[/QUOTE]
only problem with those people comming back....Darkside: Mission gets killed, Big Z gets killed, Carth gets killed. Exile wouldn't be able to come back in III as the exile's face is chose by you and gender...Revan could come back as s/he had a mask...Darkside: Sunry gets death in trial. Griff dies darkside. See all the problems about characters comming back isn't really fair to the darkside players.....yes all were great characters but not everyone plays lightside....and dev's would keep that in mind....granted Big Z could come back after being darkside in part one was if you made him kill Mission....if you wanted massive DS you killed em both....and those jedi masters die when you play darkside....the only logical characters that would be able to come back would be T3,HK,Bastilla,Handmaiden/Disciple,Visas,Bao-Dur,Atton,Mandalore,Canderous,Revan,. as no matter if you played both light and dark in both games those characters are the only one's that don't die on darkside.[/QUOTE]
I'n not picking on you but you bring up arguable points as i do
they could create alignment choice in character creation that determines who's alive and who's not. What do you and all the other players think about that please reply me on this idea i'm interested on this topicIt's not who you are underneath, but what you do that defines you.
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