Javazon

[Piff]

Like my hammerdin thread I want to know how to make a good build for this. What should the stats look like? I didnt see any change in damage with increase to dex or str, so im guessing enough to use your equipment, but how much should i put into mana and vitality? What skill should I go with?

[Tetsumaru]

ah, yay to the javzon, its one of my favorite builds. ill go into some good detail too.

skills is
1 in pierce and pre reqs
1 in evade and pre reqs.

20 in litnin fury
20 in charged strike
20 in lightning strike
20 in power strike
rest in lightning bolt

the basis for leet char builds is to find every item you will have on before you start building.

this build will wear 2x eth titans revenge not upped. 2x spirit monarchs. 1x shako, um. 1x war travellers variable strength (10), 1x razortail, 1x draculs grasp variable strength (12) 1x crescent moon amulet (for mana and life steal), 1x ravenfrost variable dexterity (19) 1x any ring (natures peace is very nice for nihlathak) and 1x any armor you want (Chains of Honor is godliest choice, i use skullders for mf)

ok now down to business.

spirit in a monarch costs 156 strength.
eth titans costs 99 dexterity and 15 strength, and a regular one costs 109 dex and 25 strength so a eth one is better, higher hit damage, and repairs automatically, thats why you also have it on switch so you can spam then when you run out switch to other weapon.

ok.

Base Str Req 156
Base Dex Req 99

add up all the +dex any items give NOT including titans
add up all the +str any items give INcluding titans

example, dex: 15+19+2 from my razortail, ravenfrost, shako.
example, str: 20+12+10+2 from my titans, dracs, war travs, shako

total + dex: (example: 36)
total + str: (example: 44)

then you take the base str req minus the total +str from items, and the base dex req minus the total +dex from items

example: 99 dex req - 36 from items = char should have 63 in dexterity.
example: 156 str req - 44 from items = char should have 112 in strength

if i had coh armor then i could have 92 str because of its +20 to strength.

basis is, if you wear a +1 skills armor, you will have 65% pierce from pierce skill, and 33% from razortail (it is 33% it doesnt say but it is.) which makes a 98% chance to pierce. if you have a +2 armor aka a lvl 9 pierce, which is 69 %, and with razortail makes it 102% pierce, then you will always pierce with lightning fury. the thing is you want perfect pierce with fury so when you cast on groups, each time it pierces through to the next enemy it recasts fury, so you get tons of lightning damage from that.

good luck with all that.

o ya forgot, all other stats after str and dex are finished go in vitality only. shako and crescent moon and spirit will give you plenty of mana and 15% mana leech so you will never run out, my 88 zon has 474 mana and 1322 life, but thats cauze i mussed up the str and dex a bit when i first made it, but point is everything else is in vitality and nothing in energy, you will have plenty of mana anyways.

[moltovir]

Power Strike only gives a 1% synergy to Lightning Fury, and Charged Strike is powerful enough with Lightning Strike and Fury alone, so I'd redirect those 20 points in PS to Valkyrie. You really want a sturdy minion that can tank for you.

Also, keep in mind that it's possible to make any build succesful even without high-end specialized gear like the list in the previous post.

I strongly disagree with the Spirit shield choice: you'll be using CS against bosses and single strong targets, and you will get hit occasionly, so you need maxed block. I'd use a shield with high block (Stormshield, Gerke's) or make a runeword in a shield with high base block (Rhyme Tower Shield, contrary to what your average pubbie will say, defense does NOT matter for any characters not specialized in maxing it, so a normal shield is just fine). You will also need AR to hit things and since Amazons have a Valk, Decoy, Merc, maxed Block and Dodge/Avoid/Evade, they can easily get away with less vitality than the other classes, so pump Dexterity I'd say.

If you're not sure which gear you'll be using later, put enough points in Strength and Dex so you can easily wear most items. A Zon will probably never need more than 100 base Str and 150 base Dex, unless you like wielding Thunder Mauls or wearing Sacred Armour

[Tetsumaru]

well actually, javzon needs no AR because lightning fury and charged strike dont use AR, they are always hit. and valkyrie could be usefull, but i didnt bother putting any into it because i use a super tanker merc, w/ tombreaver, tals helm, all that good stuff, and i have peace which casts valk anyways, and lvl 15, and i doubt a few more lvls will make a difference. imo, zon doesnt need block, because in hell you will be hit primarily by ranged spells, since fury is ranged attack, and only time you go up close is for a boss. %DR, crazy health, and high resist is better than block anyways. but, again, spirit is just for that extra mana and 22 vitality, and the beefy +2 skills. also with 20 into PS, charged strike will get godly damage that will kill bosses in less than 20 seconds anyways.

[Piff]

Well i dont see much of a purpose of putting skills in charged strike when you get only a 1% bonus from it.

Also what does PS stand for?

[Nekasrof]

I am trying to build a java zon too, and she is only level 20 right now, but here's my question:

Does Lightning Fury leech mana and life? Since it is automatic hit and (mostly) lightning damage, do you need a high mana leech? If it leeches at all, it seems that only the initial attack would leech (and maybe the ones that hit from pierce), not the bits that split off.

I am worried about running out of mana.

Also, if lightning damage is mostly what kills, why bother with an eth titan (except for the lower stat requirements)?

[moltovir]

The only part of LF that can leech is the physical part, the javelin itself. The lightning bolts are autohit, but to leech you'll need to make a to hit check so that's why I advocate getting at least semi decent AR for LF. If a javelin succesfully hits a target, pierces, and hits another one, it has to make a second AR check to see if it can leech and pierce even further. IIRC this can happen up to four times. The reason why people like Eth titans is because they can leech more with higher damage, and probably because it does more Jab damage against lightning immunes too.

[FireLighter]

that, and for the lower requirements, since a lot of duelers keep all stats base except for vitality.

[Nekasrof]

Are you sure I need to make an AR check to hit? I have Charged Strike (lvl 18 req), the skill that shoots off charged bolts when you hit with a spear or javalin attack (NOT thrown) and Charged Strike does not have an attack rating on my character sheet, so the physical part of the attack always hits.

I don't have much time to play, but LF might be the same, making points in Penetrate worthless. However, since I don't have time to play, I don't want to get to level 30 and be screwed because I can't hit anything.

[moltovir]

The javelin always "connects" and releases its lightning, but to do physical damage, pierce or leech you'll need to make an AR check.