The Smaller Touches

Kayos · Post by **Kayos** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:55 pm

lol my bad, sorry... lol

how bout more of a reaction from NPCs? if someone waved a lightsaber in my face... i am not gonna sit there and stare at you like an idiot. im gonna freak out and prolly run away.

again... the facial expressions. if your angry, you should look like it!

eskilla · Post by **eskilla** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:11 am

Yeah, one of the funniest (well, to me) parts of K2 was when you trained characters to be jedi, and they 'closed their eyes'...but actually kept looking at you. More varied facial expressions are definitely in order.

As for weapon-waving, they could hook up something like in Fable (if you showed people your weapon there, they'd get scared and some guards would fine you).

I'd like more diverse armor - basically all light armor looked the same, but with a different color job. There was some variance in medium/heavy armor, but are you seriously telling me that Krath Holy Armor is just Mandalorian Heavy armor with a different paint job?? I knew Mandalorians were cheap, but not that cheap :laugh:

Kayos · Post by **Kayos** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:19 am

i agree. but what can you really do to make armor look different? not much.

haha... yea like on nar shadaa you tell mira to shut her eyes and shes like "sure" then down at the bottem... it has to TELL you that mira shut her eyes... haha that was soo funny. ha.
what about when they are working on stuff in the ship and they still have their weapons in theyre hands. or like when kreia and visas meditate. that made me laugh. are you going to keep your sword in your hand when your messing around with the ships controls? no your not.

RBitG · Post by **RBitG** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 5:50 pm

[quote="eskilla]As for weapon-waving"]

Definately. The NPC behavior was terrible in both KOTOR I and II.

Also, not a stupid fixed pathway for everything, where you could not duck under beams, or go onto areas that were perhaps half a metre off the ground. additionally, as somebody has already mentioned, you cannot jump!! That was a huge area of dissapointment in KOTOR for me.

Kayos · Post by **Kayos** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:24 am

you know what i just noticed? no body in the games (or the movies come to think of it) have glasses. what...? are these ppl born with perfect vision? i want an option for a PC head to have glasses. i have glasses and i think it makes your PC more human instead of this person who can kill three sith lords and not even break a sweat! yes? no? your thoughts

RBitG · Post by **RBitG** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:34 am

[quote="Kayos]you know what i just noticed? no body in the games (or the movies come to think of it) have glasses. what...? are these ppl born with perfect vision? i want an option for a PC head to have glasses. i have glasses and i think it makes your PC more human instead of this person who can kill three sith lords and not even break a sweat! yes? no? your thoughts[/QUOTE]

Yes"]cool[/i] while bashing those lords, is an entirely different matter.

Seriously though, i'd have thought they would have medical proceedures to fix eyesight problems, they've already been developed in RL.

But, there is a mod that will give you sunglasses...

Edit: as a good friend of mine likes to say:

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Ciretnotlehs · Post by **Ciretnotlehs** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:47 pm

What I'd really like to see is more physical detail on the characters. Like when making your character at the beginning... maybe a choice in hair style or eye color... almost like Earth and Beyond.

Another thing, it's really annoying how when you are "Jedi" and really good, your face and physical attributes don't change. But when a "Sith", you get crapped up skin and yellow eyes and whatnot. They could atleast give jedi's... an Aurora, or something.

Also maybe... Something to show what you've been through. Like Scars or arms like Bao-Dur.

Anyways, i'm just rambling.

Kayos · Post by **Kayos** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:06 pm

i agree. i just about laughred my butt off when i saw some of the hair doos for the chicks. like that one that looks like dora the explorer... haha even a jedi should have good fashion sense. sheesh.

yes on scars. non of the females have them, and i only saw on guy have one scar. but im not talking about these grotesque scars that are slashed across your face, but little ones. like on your chin or something...

lol yea... if your dark side then your a fracking walking corpse. i dont remember what it was called, but i was looking at this mod that fixed that. instead of giving you cracked skin and a complextion that would put micheal jackson to shame, it changed that so you got these really cool looking eyes. they were like bright yellow with red swirls. it was awsome. the mod changes some other things but i cant remember what else. go to http://www.team-gizka.com/ and hit downloads, then scroll down to misellaneous and click the one directly below it. its somewhere in there...

lonewolf13 · Post by **lonewolf13** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:54 pm

[QUOTE=Kayos]you know what i just noticed? no body in the games (or the movies come to think of it) have glasses. what...? are these ppl born with perfect vision? i want an option for a PC head to have glasses. i have glasses and i think it makes your PC more human instead of this person who can kill three sith lords and not even break a sweat! yes? no? your thoughts[/QUOTE]
You can put on headgear that looks like glasses if you like the look. The thing is, most headgear covers your eyes to some extent, so glasses on your character would be like making their underware look cool. You know its there, but you never see it because its covered up.

RBitG · Post by **RBitG** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:41 am

Also, what i hated is not being able to attack people/items at will, what use is being a sith lord if you cannot slaughter people in the streets?

Darth Mason · Post by **Darth Mason** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:17 am

lol yeh tht would be quite funny but if you did tht it would become a little like GTA n some people have a grudge against that style of game play

RBitG · Post by **RBitG** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:38 pm

No, i mean as in Baldurs Gate etc. you could attack anybody and everybody, but you never nessicarily did.

Darth Mason · Post by **Darth Mason** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:20 am

ok fair enough. that sounds pretty gd to me. i think it would be quite fun to be able to start a fight in a cantina and then it turns into a full scale shootout with everyone trying to kill each other

RBitG · Post by **RBitG** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:38 pm

I love it, especially when you're power gaming for every last shred of xp, finish the quest, get the reward/xp, kill the guy.

Darth Mason · Post by **Darth Mason** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:54 am

lol. another thing id like to see is robes that you can put the hood up on. How cool would it be. You enter the room and a cut scene triggers. Your character walks into a room of enemies and put down his hood. Then the massacre begins.

Kayos · Post by **Kayos** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:06 pm

durn dark siders... youll bring death to us all!!! lol.

yes a hood up would be awsome! this is kinda "non-small-touch" but i want better Light Side force powers.

and i think that when a jedi comes to a security door, they should be able to use the force to open it. you know? so have a toggle like thing in there with bash. i get so tired of seening my PCs butt, or wasting a mine, or standing there for ten min trying to bash open a door... why cant they just pull an obi-wan with a wave of their fingers and bam -- the door is open

RBitG · Post by **RBitG** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:56 pm

I belive there are several modded robes out there, but i agree, there should definately be base robes with hoods and capes that your feet don't clip through.

[quote="Kayos]and i think that when a jedi comes to a security door"]

That's just another of the KOTOR series' horrible realism issues, they're disgustingly linear games, with little option of doing things your own way.

It's all black and white with KOTOR.

[quote="Darth Mason]Then the massacre begins.[/quote"]

DS force powers.

Kayos · Post by **Kayos** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:01 am

*shakes head* dang sith... dang dark siders... you make me SICK!! lol j/k.

i agree. i always hated it when my PC was running around in robes and you could see the back of their legs coming through their robes. urgh... that makes me angry... but then it makes me laugh... dang devolpers... *shakes fist at them* eh oh well. we can only hope that who ever is making the next game (if there IS a next game) is reading this forum and taking to heart what we want.... like killing hutts... and gungans... hee hee... i agree with you, DEATH TO HUTTS!!

anyway... yea... force open doors. that would be awsome.

Darth Mason · Post by **Darth Mason** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:19 am

yes long painful deaths to the Hutts. Maybe you could even have a Leia-esque mission to kill a Hutt. One of your non-jedi female characters could be captured and becomes a slave and you take over them and wear down the Hutts health til its almsot down to 0. Then you get a cut scene of them choking it

eskilla · Post by **eskilla** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:09 am

[QUOTE=Kayos]durn dark siders... youll bring death to us all!!! lol.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but...was there supposed to be a down side? >;DDD
[QUOTE=Kayos]yes a hood up would be awsome! this is kinda "non-small-touch" but i want better Light Side force powers. [/QUOTE]
I know! One time I played LS (to prove that I could) and the Force Powers sucked, about level 10 I started just pressing 'down' and hitting 'select' at a random point - far too much like russian roulette for my taste. But then, can you think of a FP that would both not suck and be good? (Universal Powers so don't count)
[QUOTE=Kayos]and i think that when a jedi comes to a security door, they should be able to use the force to open it. you know? so have a toggle like thing in there with bash. i get so tired of seening my PCs butt, or wasting a mine, or standing there for ten min trying to bash open a door... why cant they just pull an obi-wan with a wave of their fingers and bam -- the door is open[/QUOTE]

I SECOND THIS!!! That, and how about if you have high enough rep/sec you can fiddle with a control on the wall and crack the controls?

And on an unrelated note: Force Distract. If you're stealthing your way through enemy territory because you're too weak to kill them (only reason I could come up for stealthing) you should be able to 'cast' a noise or their buddies calling for them a distance away, so they don't get close enough to foil your stealth with a 'check. I'm serious, folks, even though this one sounds stupid.