Question about Poison Nova

Pekka · Post by **Pekka** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:26 am

Can someone tell me if poison nova is any good in hell? I am currently building my first necro char (summon-poison hybrid) and thinking about going 20 RS, about 10 SM for starters, then go for 20 Poison explosion and 20 nova, and of course one point each in essential curses (aiming for decrep. and lower resist), clay golem, golem mastery and summon resist. Ive heard that nova doesnt actually kill anything, but brings down health to one point. Is this true? Thats pretty stupid imo (I mean, whats so special about that last health point? and monsters can kill you with poison np). Can novas be stacked? Thoughts/suggestions about the build are welcome.

Pekka · Post by **Pekka** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:10 am

C'mon people, give me a hand here. I need help of a poison pro

darkrauser · Post by **darkrauser** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:46 pm

It depends on what version of the game you're playing. If you're playing v1.10 or later it does okay damage in Hell but you can't solo with it very well do to Poison Immunity that some monsters have in Hell. Okay in multiplayer but pretty slow way of killing things. Read one of the guides on it if you want.

http://www.battle.net/forums/thread.asp ... s&t=125048

Pekka · Post by **Pekka** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:08 am

I am playing v.1.11 singleplayer. For poison immunes I plan to use my skellies and partly mages (mostly cold ones for the slow effect). As for the guides... well, maybe I've been unlucky, but the ones I've read mostly dealt with skill placement and getting "godly" gear. While this is helpful I could certainly stand a bit more depth

darkrauser · Post by **darkrauser** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:13 pm

[QUOTE=Pekka]I am playing v.1.11 singleplayer. For poison immunes I plan to use my skellies and partly mages (mostly cold ones for the slow effect). As for the guides... well, maybe I've been unlucky, but the ones I've read mostly dealt with skill placement and getting "godly" gear. While this is helpful I could certainly stand a bit more depth

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Well all you really need to know is attribute and skill placement. The items you get are just chance. Almost every build will work in single player if you stick with it. You can also use a program like Atma to transfer items to other characters in single player. I haven't done a poison nova through Hell but I have done a bone necro through Hell with the help of +skill items I obtained with other chars.

What specifically do you want to know?

Pekka · Post by **Pekka** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:36 am

[QUOTE=darkrauser]Well all you really need to know is attribute and skill placement. The items you get are just chance. Almost every build will work in single player if you stick with it. You can also use a program like Atma to transfer items to other characters in single player. I haven't done a poison nova through Hell but I have done a bone necro through Hell with the help of +skill items I obtained with other chars.

What specifically do you want to know?[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your advice about Atma, to be honest I didn't know about this prog. Gonna use it to transfer items and make a personal collection. As of now, I am a bit disappointed with the hybrid build (reached lvl 60 with it), wanna try a pure summoner. What curse would you suggest maxing? I'd think attract should rock in tight places like Arcane sanctuary - have the goats attack a ghoul lord to let your minions pass? Or is DV better? How many points in clay golem to make it durable? Feedback welcome.

Piff · Post by **Piff** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:11 pm

[QUOTE=Pekka]Thanks for your advice about Atma, to be honest I didn't know about this prog. Gonna use it to transfer items and make a personal collection. As of now, I am a bit disappointed with the hybrid build (reached lvl 60 with it), wanna try a pure summoner. What curse would you suggest maxing? I'd think attract should rock in tight places like Arcane sanctuary - have the goats attack a ghoul lord to let your minions pass? Or is DV better? How many points in clay golem to make it durable? Feedback welcome.[/QUOTE]

WOAH what ever you do, dont max attact. Because if you max it and have some +skillers, then you will be attracting people from off the screen. You dont really need to max a curse, just put one in each curse and it should do if you got some +skills equipment.

Pekka · Post by **Pekka** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:47 am

[QUOTE=Piff]WOAH what ever you do, dont max attact. Because if you max it and have some +skillers, then you will be attracting people from off the screen. You dont really need to max a curse, just put one in each curse and it should do if you got some +skills equipment.[/QUOTE]
So, what you think is the best investment after the basic: 20 RS, 20 Skel mastery, 1 clay golem, 1 golem mastery, 1 summon res., 1 in curses, 1 mage, 1 revive, 10 corpse explosion? I was also thinking of using attract on "fat" mobs to set up for a big amp.dmg/lower res.+ CE combo, is it really dangerous for being overwhelmed? I mean, what if they kill the monster, you can just recast attract right away on another to create an additional "bomb", no?

Grimar · Post by **Grimar** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:57 am

you could always just read moltovirs summoner guide..

its in the sticky thread "builds", and its a great guide!

Pekka · Post by **Pekka** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:33 pm

OK, gonna do that

NitroBobby · Post by **NitroBobby** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:39 pm

Main skills for a summoner are RS Skel(20) Mast. (20) Corpse Explosion (20) Clay Golem and Golem Mastery (as much as possible but not a priority) and for curses it's a matter of personnal preference, some people love to get a point in each to be well rounded or you can choose just one or 2 curses, I only get decrepify for example, one thing is for sure, never, NEVER put more than one point into a curse, except the radius and sometimes the duration, the effects never changes, it might be useful but your points wil be better spent elsewhere like clay golem for bosses (slow). Most of the time your +skills items will pump your curses to good levels, no need to invest in them. Hope this helped

FireLighter · Post by **FireLighter** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:11 am

I made a summoner on hardcore and he did pretty well with okay equipment. Skills=20 raise skeleton, 20 skeleton mastery, 20 skeleton mage, 1 summon resist, 1 in all golems (usually used fire to get a kill for summons), 1 in revive (plus skills made it usable), 1-5 in amp, 1 in decrep, 1 in all pre-reqs, 1 in bone armor. Use amp on normal monsters and decrep on monsters like baal (keeps him from teleporting and using most of his abilities.) This summoner was able to solo NM baal on hardcore patch 1.10. Max skeleton mage last since it isn't essential. Any extra points go in bone wall/prison (adds more to bone armor damage absorb than upping that skill. Adding to bone armor = extra 10 points, adding to prison or wall = extra 15 points of absorb each.)