Bastila and Revan Fans: How would you want to have them back in KotOR III?

Tahiri · Post by **Tahiri** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:14 pm

Ok, this is my first post - only the fourth video game I have ever finished, so please don't be mean

The thing is, these games take so long that you get pretty invested in the characters, at least I do. I actually care what happens. I NEED to know what happened to Revan/Carth, and it needs to be HAPPY. That's why I like star wars, there's always a happy ending. Seriously, even ROTS ended with the birth of Luke and Leia. I cried in KOTOR II when Carth was talking to the Exile (I'm a girl, we sometimes do that). She's been gone for four years? Come on, they need to have some alone time. Him and Revan, Bastilla/Revan, need to be reunited. If they cannot be playable, what about doing something like the Mandalorians on the Ravager? They could be doing things in the background. A few questions at the beginning, I don't think anyone found that too difficult, and it would set up which Revan character you need and if Bastilla shows up. It needs to be tidied up, I hate an untidy galaxy!

Atton was hilarious, if we can't have him back then we need someone like him and, of course, HK because he's just the greatest. Better conversations are always welcome, it adds to the enjoyment and I'm happy to have the game a little longer for better conversations.

Oh please, oh please, oh please.

Oh, and for those who say the Jedi don't allow romances - it's time for things to change or else we wouldn't get little Solos or Skywalkers.

DesR85 · Post by **DesR85** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:16 am

Hi Tahiri. Welcome to the forums.

As for a happy ending where Revan and Carth or Revan and Bastilla get together, that would be a nice touch and I agree with you on this one.

Tahiri wrote: Atton was hilarious, if we can't have him back then we need someone like him and, of course, HK because he's just the greatest. Better conversations are always welcome, it adds to the enjoyment and I'm happy to have the game a little longer for better conversations.

Yeah. I agree that the conversations should have a more logical pace just like when you engage in a conversation in real life. I mean one character talking very long sentences does sometimes irk me and makes me wonder why do they need to talk that long for a conversation.

moe210 · Post by **moe210** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:31 am

My ideas

My ideas are basically that if you were a LS character in KOTOR II, then KOTOR III should be based on something about how the Exile restarted the Jedi order and trained the Force-sensative party members and they became the new Jedi order. You could play as a teenager who just became the padawan to the Exile, or you could play as the Exile. So the Jedi order could be pretty small, and the Republic would be slowly rebuilding. Then the council could feel a disturbance, the Exile could see a vision of the Sith invasion, the True Sith invasion, like the species. So the Exile knows that they can not defend the galaxy alone so he seeks out Bastilla who has remained hidden on an unhabbited planet, heartbroken by Revan leaving. And your padawan would tag along Then when you find Bastilla she becomes one of your party members, she'd be sort of old... Ok middle-aged at least. And she aids you in your quest to find Revan. So the game would be sort of long. But when you find Revan you should still be able to play in the Sith species war. Ok this storyline sort of sucks. But basically you should have a padawan, find Bastilla who helps you find Revan, and fight the True sith. Better yet have a three-way final battle between the Sith followers and the Sith species and the Republic/Jedi order.

Tahiri · Post by **Tahiri** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:14 pm

I just wanted to say...

I went on some other star wars forums about KOTOR III, wow, most everyone on there has a fit when you mention the thought of playing Revan or Exile. They say it's impossible. I don't feel you have to play them, just have to have them involved. But, aren't they going to battle the true Sith? I mean, they are supposedly the strongest Jedi out at this point so I would think they would survive and get help to battle the Sith, hence, KOTOR III. Is that so unbelieveable? I know the game developers can't start anyone out at a high level, that makes complete sense, but I don't see why they are all having a spaz about the scenario. We all know Mr. Lucas loves a great story arc - trilogies are his specialty so what's the big deal? Am I being too girly? I'm just excited that I have finally found some video games that I actually enjoy and can finish. I used to always have to watch everyone else play.

DesR85 · Post by **DesR85** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:21 am

Tahiri wrote: I went on some other star wars forums about KOTOR III, wow, most everyone on there has a fit when you mention the thought of playing Revan or Exile. They say it's impossible. I don't feel you have to play them, just have to have them involved.

There are a few cases here as well. Some of the members seem to cringe at the thought of playing both Revan and the Exile again while there are quite a number who wouldn't mind playing them again. In my honest opinion, I don't mind if they come back either as cameo appearance or playable. If they're afraid that they have to customise their faces again, why not just settle with preset faces and voices as I mentioned way back at some other thread? Its much easier that way. As for the gender issue, as what I've mentioned in another thread, just simplify it by setting both Revan and the Exile as the same gender when you choose the gender of Revan. Pure and simple. No hassel needed at all.

As for those who want to play as both Revan and the Exile again plus the new character, why not give them a certain part of the plot in KOTOR 3 as what I've mentioned back at the sequel vs. prequel thread? Revan can play at one part of the story, the Exile in another and the new character in another part of the story? That way, you can experience the plot through three different perspectives. That way, at least you can play as the new character plus both Revan and the Exile all in one story. Sounds neat, doesn't it?

Tahiri · Post by **Tahiri** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:09 am

Actually, that does sound good. I thought I would hate KOTOR II but I didn't. I thought when they broke the teams up and each had a different conflict was great. I kind of always go back to the star wars movies and books and that is how they do everything. You have to have different teams which each having their own important job to do in order to take on Sith.

As far as their appearance, yes, after a few minutes you would get used to the way your new character looks. Although, this is probably stupid, you could have someone say "Hey, do you have a picture?" and then choose your headshot. The headshots have not done a whole lot of changing and that would help with that. Like I said, it's probably stupid but it seems like it would be kind of easy. The hair doesn't matter, maybe she got it colored for Carth. If you're a male Revan, Bastila was always kind of bossy and she probably made you change it for her.

Honestly though, I think they're kind of needed if they do the Real Sith thing. No other Jedi could accomplish the task in the Outer Rim/Unknown Regions except Revan. He/she would have to survive and get their allies, add new allies, and go after them with the whole republic fleet so then they can have new enemies to come in from the Unknown regions and threaten the republic, again, for the next star wars game.

Darth Revan 07 · Post by **Darth Revan 07** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:22 pm

Well if Revan and Bastila do come back then they should be playable characters. They both are strong in the force and seem to make a great couple.

Darth Chef · Post by **Darth Chef** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:56 pm

I know ive said this before but... NO MORE NEW MAIN CHARACTERS!!!(unless the are directly linked to Revan or the Exile)
To not include Revan and/or The Exile in anthing short of an NPC leaders in your party or having them watching you closely and giving you orders from afar would be Disasterous for the KOTOR trilogy. Trilogy's require charater stabilty, not throwing in some new amnesia-ridin punk with his own story line in every new game. After all, Star Wars movies didn't leave Luke to go follow some Trandosian stuggle at Slave-trading in Star Wars Ep 5
And who's to say you can't actaully use Revan again? Yes, he is a Juggernaut Jedi freak of Nature in known space, but where he is now he may mearly look like a small child playing with toys> known-space:lvl 28-30 True-Sith space: lvl1
well, thats my 2 cents worth

lightordark? · Post by **lightordark?** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:43 pm

Being Revan

You're not alone buddy. I want to be Revan just as bad, I also want Mission Vao and Big Z back. Awww they're so cool!

11Revan26 · Post by **11Revan26** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:49 am

I think you should be a new person but you get bastila on your party not revan beacuse we dont even know what he or she looks like enless you made him or her to.Also is he or she dark or light.

Darth Omi · Post by **Darth Omi** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:42 pm

lightordark? wrote:You're not alone buddy. I want to be Revan just as bad, I also want Mission Vao and Big Z back. Awww they're so cool!

Ya they are still my favorite characters even after i played kotor 2, But if if you were evil in the first kotor you had the option to kill them, and i still regretted being evil and i could't bare killing Mission so i had big z do it than when i brought him on the star forge with me he remembered he killed mission so than he attacked me and i had to kill him to!

Kyp Torvyn · Post by **Kyp Torvyn** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:15 pm

I think that Bastilla should be a Jedi Master who finds one to travel with and go after Revan cause of a prophecy or sumtin.

tards69 · Post by **tards69** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:03 pm

i want them both as playable ppl cuz they were sweeeeeet!

Cyro · Post by **Cyro** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:08 am

I could deal with them as non-player characters, but I don't want to be Revan again. Revan is an enigma, and extremely powerful. As Revan the game would logically have little challenge and also be required to delve into his persona in depth, I think it's better left as it is.

Bastilla joining the party again seems redundant whether you're Revan or not, the relationship is there already and continuing one as part of a game seems just plain dull for the most part. It would require uncharacteristically meticulous writing to make it interesting and even then...

To be quite frank I want the game to continue as a new character, and I don't mean exile style new, I mean a honestly new Jedi, young and learning as they go (as opposed to remembering.)

Maybe I'm just weird.

tards69 · Post by **tards69** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:08 pm

that sounds good to me the whole new jedi thing could work

Drunkside · Post by **Drunkside** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:22 pm

Damn i dont want new main char unless a non jedi, and not even the main char

What im meaning is that revan MUST be the real main char, but there could be a char that is made by the player and starts as revans apprentice, but will never become more powerful than about 30 levels, couse its a fine amount of levels and i never reached the level cap in kotor2.

The best thing would be, as i have said many times, to be able to transfer old chars from kotors1 or 2. It could chance some parts in the story.

MikeLUFC7 · Post by **MikeLUFC7** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:01 pm

For me the idea i'd love to happen is that you play as the Exile from the last game, and that Revan found the true sith and has led them to the return. And the final battle is the exile vs revan.

Still i feel Revan should return in this game. As for Bastilla i never knew why she was included in the second game, esp when it was said that th efinal jedi was Artis? And Bastilla was or is that because of the love between her and Revan?

AnakinSolo01 · Post by **AnakinSolo01** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:15 am

is game 3 even an issue

I hate to say it but I have heard nothing about game 3 except that people want it. Is it even being worked on?

Oh and I can't see how you can not have a Playable Revan, the whole point of Game II was for the Exile to go after Revan and find him/her. That is was Treya wanted, other than killing the force. In game three the Exile and Revan would have to get together and be playable. Do you need Bastila, i don't know, whould be nice, need her to be mentioned at least as well as Carth. Must have the droids, both Revan and Exile loved those droids even in darkside they loved those droids.

but just for a side note in the canon or published EU Revan was good and is for the most part male, the Exile I think is going to be named eventually but in the canon is figured to be female I very sure. Come to think of it that could be a twist in the game if you get to chose their genders, if they are different then you can have them develop feelings for each other which woudl piss off Bastila/Carth. I mean come on, Revan was a powerful loner, he might have loved Bastila but his over all sense of duty or focus of will would never let him stay with her, that is why he left her behind.

no mater what HK needs to keep all and get more witty lines, that droid is great.

Darth Ninja · Post by **Darth Ninja** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:00 pm

Revan back

First off, I would like to say that I really want KOTOR 3 to be co-op. But having that said, I have an idea for a plot. Suppose Revan was to come back from wherever he went off to with a new empire built up on a new force-sensitive species. That way he could restore the Jedi or the Sith. I'm not saying he would be a playable character, but he could at least be back as previously mentioned by others. As for the exile, I don't care as much what they do with him. This is all just me though.

Deliant · Post by **Deliant** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:52 am

Well, actually I...

...hmm...

Drat! You brought up a good point! If you don't get to play Revan, no romance for Carth/Bastilla... but... hey, what do I care about Bastilla, she could go jump in a hole for all I care...

But, ya know what? I think I'd still be alright, as long as I knew that Carth/Bastilla still cared for Revan. You *did* play Revan. But it would ruin everything to play Revan again. Where's the hook? The fun in leveling up and so forth? What the heck would the storyline be?

Actually, they did a good job in KOTOR II integrating Revan, even if we have yet to know where he/she ran off to, and what his/her final fate really was. But at least we learned a little, and little is better then nothing.

If nothing else, even if Revan never shows up physically... we NEED to know what happened! I would LOVE to see Carth and Bastilla again, as long as it tied into the story well. Having them in your party... well, *maybe* you could pull that off, but I doubt it. We'll have to see, eh?