What Do You Want in KotOR III?

Darth Turik · Post by **Darth Turik** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:44 pm

I want to be able to continue visiting planets and other things after you beat the game and if you either save or conquer the galaxy the people acknowledge that your a jedi master or the dark lord of the sith.

like (grand theft auto).

Drunkside · Post by **Drunkside** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:05 am

Darth Turik wrote:I've read that some people don't want revan back as the main charcter because it would be too easy against h enemies but i don't think so and I'll explain.

I want revan as the main character because he is the strongest jedi/sith in the kwown galaxy and if there focusing kotor3 on the true sith then Revan should be the one saving or ruling galaxy.my argument is this,let's say that you start the game as a new character and eventually you would become a jedi and if you think about this you would be trained by one of the jedi in Kotor2 cause theres no more jedi other than the ones the Exile trained. So your trained by(brianna,bao-dur,atton,disciple,etc.),it would'nt feel right to be a jedi who's an apprentice of those jedi who were created (as jedi) by the exile who was an apprentice of Revan,and who would be able to defeat the true sith and save the galaxy?I dont think so.

My next argument is :

We playing as Revan would'nt have to be easy because if you think about it he would not be facing normal jedi/sith it's the TRUE SITH! so Revan may be the stongest in the kwown regions but in the unkwown regions he may be a jedi/sith knight instead of a Master/Lord compared to the True Sith which would make the game more Difficult!!! Thank you.

p.s I've put alot of thought into this tell me what you think?

Yeah! I thought exactly the same! And it must be possible to load an older char from kotor 1, or kotor 2, if someone likes Exile more than Revan.I say there should be at least 3 stories in kotor3: Revan(old char); Exile(old char) and for new players a new guy, whose level cap is lower than Exile and Revans, but the enemies should be easier. That new guy should also be a student of revan or exile, and help s/he fight or conquer, rather than be the super jedi who does the great decicions, but is able to quit if s/he doesnt like his/her masters plans.

bigredpanda · Post by **bigredpanda** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:48 am

Darth Turik wrote:I want to be able to continue visiting planets and other things after you beat the game and if you either save or conquer the galaxy the people acknowledge that your a jedi master or the dark lord of the sith.

like (grand theft auto).

I like this idea a lot - although, I would want to see with it side quests appearing randomly, perhaps some new, yet relatively insignificant NPCs, turning up after you've completed a certain amount of the game with a host of new things to do. I'm thinking in particualr, just before the endgame of both games, when you were tough and wanted to go around exploring some more, but all the things to do had usually been done.

DarthZ · Post by **DarthZ** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:30 pm

I think it's a very bad idea, since KotOR isn't an ORPG series like Oblivion, World of Warcraft (yes I know it's an MMORPG, but it's what you want..obviously).

I don't think side quests that don't have any story behind them are fun; if they'd make random quests they'd probally make quests that says "Go kill 10 Sith" or "Go fetch the newspaper"; that'd probally suck real hard. The games are good as they are. They just need more polishing on the things they already have; I don't really think they should add more features to the game (I don't count mini-games, main quest, items, etc as features).

marten0305 · Post by **marten0305** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:17 pm

Just for the record i count pazaak and the swoopbike racing as features (check ign.com's feature list on K1 and K2).

An interesting idea is, items that the player collects that initiates side quests for certain characters. To define it a little more a certain character equips a certain item and that initiates a sidequest or a dialogue. Similar to a certain character meeting another certain character intiates a sidequest or dialogue. I thought of this when i was collecting the parts to rebuild HK, only i thought of collecting a memory part that reveals something about Revan and the Ebon Hawk after the events of K1 (how did the Hawk get there in K2, maybe where Revan left the Hawk, why did Revan leave he Hawk and crew, etc...)

marten0305 · Post by **marten0305** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:57 am

I have another great idea following the collecting of the parts. In K3, instead of collecting parts for lightsaber or parts for a droid (K1 lightsaber and K2 Droid), we collect several different kinds of parts through out the game that can make weapons, droids, armor, etc...

marten0305 · Post by **marten0305** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:29 pm

Ok maybe i should be editing this into one post, but i was just concerned of the time difference. And please don't erace this, because this would really be hard to remeber all of this again.

A not so new idea just a new character idea. I thought the Miraluka (Visas Marr, K2) was one of the most unique characters in the star wars universe yet, and i'd like a return, not Visas herself but another Miraluka. Maybe that could be one of the main character race choices, imagine how that story could be like, another Miraluka survived they're destruction and became a jedi on the count that they would need little training because they can already instinctively use the force (that would fit in with the main characters so far), only she wouldn't be a jedi who forgot how to use the force (Revan and Exile, K1 main character and K2 main character) she would only have to be trained to use the force at will.

To add on to that race choice idea, the race you choose as the main character also affects the back story of the main character and some dialogue options in the game. Imagine how many possible game endings K3 would have and how many times you would have to play over to see all the endings. Every time you play, the game would be at least half new, and you would always have new interactions and dialogue, until you play them all of coarse.

And on a side note i would also like the clothing armor to be upgradeable, because i don't like changing some characters appearance because the clothing armor suits they're character. And i know that no matter what armor you put on Visas her appearance doesn't change. If they do make a miraluka race choice on K3, i would want the outfit, well at least the hood over the eyes, and without upgradeable clothing i would have to change it because of the armor issue.

Now i think that was one of my most outstanding ideas, hopefuly i'll get a positive response.

I recently seen questions for K series, how did Revan get such a large fleet,how did Revan change so many Jedi to the darkside, and why did Revan joing the darkside. And then it was followed by two questions answered, one remains and should be explained in KOTOR III. But i could answer all three of the questions. I forget how Revan got such a large army but i know i heard it, Revan had influenced/convinced them, and Revan wanted to unite the galaxy for a threat he knew was coming (Revan knew about the "True Sith").

DarthZ · Post by **DarthZ** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:22 am

marten0305 wrote:Ok maybe i should be editing this into one post, but i was just concerned of the time difference. And please don't erace this, because this would really be hard to remeber all of this again.

A not so new idea just a new character idea. I thought the Miraluka (Visas Marr, K2) was one of the most unique characters in the star wars universe yet, and i'd like a return, not Visas herself but another Miraluka. Maybe that could be one of the main character race choices, imagine how that story could be like, another Miraluka survived they're destruction and became a jedi on the count that they would need little training because they can already instinctively use the force (that would fit in with the main characters so far), only she wouldn't be a jedi who forgot how to use the force (Revan and Exile, K1 main character and K2 main character) she would only have to be trained to use the force at will.

To add on to that race choice idea, the race you choose as the main character also affects the back story of the main character and some dialogue options in the game. Imagine how many possible game endings K3 would have and how many times you would have to play over to see all the endings. Every time you play, the game would be at least half new, and you would always have new interactions and dialogue, until you play them all of coarse.

And on a side note i would also like the clothing armor to be upgradeable, because i don't like changing some characters appearance because the clothing armor suits they're character. And i know that no matter what armor you put on Visas her appearance doesn't change. If they do make a miraluka race choice on K3, i would want the outfit, well at least the hood over the eyes, and without upgradeable clothing i would have to change it because of the armor issue.

Now i think that was one of my most outstanding ideas, hopefuly i'll get a positive response.

I recently seen questions for K series, how did Revan get such a large fleet,how did Revan change so many Jedi to the darkside, and why did Revan joing the darkside. And then it was followed by two questions answered, one remains and should be explained in KOTOR III. But i could answer all three of the questions. I forget how Revan got such a large army but i know i heard it, Revan had influenced/convinced them, and Revan wanted to unite the galaxy for a threat he knew was coming (Revan knew about the "True Sith").

Well for the first, about the feature thing. I count the "mini-games" as one feature, which means, more mini-games (good ones) = 1 better mini-games feature.

OK, now about the rest. All your ideas are great but the thing is I'm pretty sure that most of these are of 100% chance going to be added to K3 and otherwise the ideas you have already exist in the game? Like the item collecting quest thing. When you pick up some items in K2 you do receive quests from them.

marten0305 · Post by **marten0305** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:04 am

I didn't really pay attension to that kinda thing while i was playing, didn't know the item quests where in there. Is it in detail that if a certain character equips it or uses it, it activates a quest?

How about the idea about which ever race you choose they have a different back round, dialogue options, cut scenes. events, etc... I think that was one of my best ideas yet. Of coarse there will be mostly universal options through out the game, the race just affects the story a little. Just like characters in your crew all have a side quest of they're own, aside from the main quest, the main character can have a side quest, aside from the main quest, that can be determined by the race you choose. Also the outcome of the character can be determined by the choices you make throughout the game, your alignment (DS or LS by the end of the game), etc...

Mandalorianx · Post by **Mandalorianx** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:05 am

DarthZ wrote:Well for the first, about the feature thing. I count the "mini-games" as one feature, which means, more mini-games (good ones) = 1 better mini-games feature.

i realy like Pazzak, always funn when i beat atton in it

but i would'nt mind to se more ''Card'' games. and just to add to the idea it would be cool with a gambeling place, like a casino or something... where the crime lord can be and all...

marten0305 · Post by **marten0305** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:12 am

Mandalorianx wrote:i realy like Pazzak, always funn when i beat atton in it

Mandalorianx wrote:i would'nt mind to see more ''Card'' games. and just to add to the idea it would be cool with a gambeling place, like a casino or something... where the crime lord can be and all...

Tha would be awsome, a new venture that the Hutts or something got into. I know that would be an easy place to make credits when i'm in need, and a easy place to lose them.

Tribblemaker · Post by **Tribblemaker** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:06 am

Someone had an idea for a little questionaire at the beginning of K3, in which you explain Revan's appearance, alignment, etc. Same with the Exile. I think it's a great idea. It might sound weird, but a confusing conversation with Atton was weird too.

I like the Ebon Hawk, but it's becoming a little overused. I think you should have the option of stealing a ship from a selection. . . just for fun. I also think that on your ship you should really get to know your companions. Maybe crew gatherings could take place, maybe space battles in which you actually give the crew orders. (DIFFERENT ships, not just the small ones that barely cause any damage!)

For characters, I think maybe Atton's son or something could accompany you, as well as a few others that have ties to old characters. I think there should be more interesting relationships, not just romance, but friendships with crew members, and more side quests.

As for combat, I think it's fine the way it is. To all people who want to actually swing the saber- that just isn't kotor. I personally like sitting back and watching my character fight as I give her commands.

I wouldn't mind some new planets. Nicer landscapes too. Dantooine in the first game was probably the prettiest planet.

I'm pretty sure that a Kotor III will be made. Lots of people want it, and that means more money for LucasArts.

DarthZ · Post by **DarthZ** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:12 am

Tribblemaker wrote:Someone had an idea for a little questionaire at the beginning of K3, in which you explain Revan's appearance, alignment, etc. Same with the Exile. I think it's a great idea. It might sound weird, but a confusing conversation with Atton was weird too.

I like the Ebon Hawk, but it's becoming a little overused. I think you should have the option of stealing a ship from a selection. . . just for fun. I also think that on your ship you should really get to know your companions. Maybe crew gatherings could take place, maybe space battles in which you actually give the crew orders. (DIFFERENT ships, not just the small ones that barely cause any damage!)

For characters, I think maybe Atton's son or something could accompany you, as well as a few others that have ties to old characters. I think there should be more interesting relationships, not just romance, but friendships with crew members, and more side quests.

As for combat, I think it's fine the way it is. To all people who want to actually swing the saber- that just isn't kotor. I personally like sitting back and watching my character fight as I give her commands.

I wouldn't mind some new planets. Nicer landscapes too. Dantooine in the first game was probably the prettiest planet.

I'm pretty sure that a Kotor III will be made. Lots of people want it, and that means more money for LucasArts.

Wouldn't work with newcomers. Maybe a few questions deciding something but not deciding the whole outcome of the backstory and the story of the game.

And about the idea with another backstory if you choose another race. Of course there will be difference in the story if you choose another race, just like any RPG nowadays; so yea, to me it feels like a pretty natural "feature".

Tribblemaker · Post by **Tribblemaker** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:39 pm

DarthZ wrote:Wouldn't work with newcomers. Maybe a few questions deciding something but not deciding the whole outcome of the backstory and the story of the game.

And about the idea with another backstory if you choose another race. Of course there will be difference in the story if you choose another race, just like any RPG nowadays; so yea, to me it feels like a pretty natural "feature".

That's what I meant. Knowing Revan and the Exile's appearance and alignment wouldn't really affect the game. Besides, that's basically what they did at the beginning of k2, and it didn't affect the game very much.

DarthZ · Post by **DarthZ** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:04 pm

Tribblemaker wrote:That's what I meant. Knowing Revan and the Exile's appearance and alignment wouldn't really affect the game. Besides, that's basically what they did at the beginning of k2, and it didn't affect the game very much.

Exactly.

marten0305 · Post by **marten0305** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:43 pm

Last Stand for Ebon Hawk

Ok i've defended the Hawk lots ad this will probably be the last. People don't want the Ebon Hawk because mostly they're getting sick of it and one arguement was, the Ebon Hawk is starting to feel like a hand me down. Well how about having one character return from K2 (the character could have been left in charge of the Hawk) or, thanks to DarthZ for this idea, it could be Atton's son and he was left incharge of the Hawk. Sure it may be a hand me down still, but it could also be a family heirlume or something. Or any other characters, family member, race, friend, etc... One character i was thinking of is a mandalorian, the mandalore took command of the ship (somehow, not hostile but was given to him or something) and designated it a mandalorian ship for "small crew space travel". And the main characters meet the mandalorian that is captaining it (maybe Canderous/Mandalore can make another appearance or even a Fett is captain of it).

DesR85 · Post by **DesR85** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:05 am

Well, I would really hope that for ships, aside from the ability to control the turret, I would also like manoeuvring the ship and using it's main guns as well when it comes to dogfighting enemy ships (as for the turret, let the AI control it).

FighterTundra · Post by **FighterTundra** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:54 am

marten0305 wrote:Ok i've defended the Hawk lots ad this will probably be the last. People don't want the Ebon Hawk because mostly they're getting sick of it and one arguement was, the Ebon Hawk is starting to feel like a hand me down.

Maybe a good solution to this is that you can buy ships, including the ebon hawk for the people who still like this ship. And that each ship will have a side-quest.

Drunkside · Post by **Drunkside** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:14 am

Listen up! Tuning ships.:laugh: I want to have a flame vinyl on my ship... and my ship must be crappy piece of crap

It would also be cool to have ship shows(like car shows- girls and everything

).

Seriously it would be cool to buy new cannons and platings and other parts for ship.

OR if the pc wouldnt own a ship? S/he would be a space tramp:devil:

Mandalorianx · Post by **Mandalorianx** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:46 am

Drunkside wrote: Seriously it would be cool to buy new cannons and platings and other parts for ship.

OR if the pc wouldnt own a ship? S/he would be a space tramp:devil:

well if not that, atleast get a upgraded Ebon Hawk....

Drunkside wrote:Listen up! Tuning ships.:laugh: I want to have a flame vinyl on my ship... and my ship must be crappy piece of crap It would also be cool to have ship shows(like car shows- girls and everything ).

ehhhh oki

i agree a little with the tuning part, but whats with the ''Ship shows''.:laugh:

well about the tuning part, it would be cool. why, to not have the same looking ship all the time...

(but not with front/rear bomper and side skirt, like street cars and all)

but i think it will never be in a game like this. because it to mutch now at days. if you know what i mean....