Drop Oddities & Magic Finding

Deadalready · Post by **Deadalready** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:22 am

I've noticed this a while ago but never really thought too much about it, but I've read somewhere that Uniques aren't supposed to spawn once the PC has the said item in their inventory.

Set items I've been finding quite often, once or twice I think I've had three of the same set item in a single run (Sigon's Wrap notably), but uniques?
I have a Stealskull in my cube for boss killing and strangely enough I recieved another Stealskill from Mesphisto while wearing a stealskull. Another time I've been wearing a String of Ears and found another, today I found a Magefist even though my sorceress has one equipped O_O

Has anyone else had multiple uniques drop???

Another oddity I've noticed, today I was lucky enough to get a Reaper's Toll off Diablo in Hell. Now that might not be strange exept I'm playing single player!, isn't Reaper's Toll and ladder only item? The Arreat Summit - Items: Elite Unique Polearms

I'm playing Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction 1.11 (b?) on players 8 single player, NO MODS. I do use Atma to mule items but that's it.

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Another oddity is I've been getting rather poor drops from Mephisto in Hell mode. I ran Travincal, Mesphisto and Bhaal in Nightmare from about level 70 to level 81 which proved quite profitable.
At that point in time I had about 210% magic find and got about 2 uniques a single run. I'm currently running Hellmode and I'm finding my drops are strangely consistantly ordinary magic or just money, with a magic find of about 250% Shouldn't my drops be comparable or even better than my Nightmare runs considering my higher magic find?

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Another question if my sorceress casts firewall and I hotswap [W] my equipment before the monster in question dies, will my weapon be taken into account for the MF or the weapon that was equipped be used for MF?

the_bogan · Post by **the_bogan** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:59 pm

Unique items drop once a game, by default. So if you restart your game you can find another one.

Reapers Toll is indeed a ladder only item in unmodded LOD. You haven't by chance installed Nefarius' Fixed 1.11b files, have you? That has allowed the ladder items to drop. (Including runewords)

Deadalready · Post by **Deadalready** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:13 am

I've got everything official as far as I know, the only other thing I can think of is I'm running Diablo off an ISO ~ which runs LOD off my harddrive instead of a CD, though that couldn't possibly have anything to do with it.

I'm thinking about trying out a ladder runeword and seeing what happens, I'll be over the moon if I can use them.

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Thanks about the uniques info so basically the unique drop counter is reset every time I save and exit, interesting.

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As for the magic finding, I've increased my MF to about 310 and I'm getting better items, maybe not as good as I would want but things have been much better.

Caden · Post by **Caden** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:46 am

Yes, if you weapon switch before the monster dies, it will count the extra MF.

Deadalready · Post by **Deadalready** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:30 am

Just as an update, I've tried a ladder runeword with no success, additionally I've found not one Reaper's Toll but 3 since the last time I've posted in this thread. Currently I'm leaning towards the Arreat Summit wrongly marking the Reaper's Toll as being ladder only.

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I've also discovered that it's not the current armour equipped that decides one's magic find, but the armour being worn at the execution of an attack. For example, if I fired a Blessed Hammer and switched items (+100 magic find) before it hit a it's target, the hammer WOULD NOT hit as +100 magic find but rather the previous armour's magic find.

So a projectile or a duration attack seems to only carry the armour properties at the time of execution, not the equipped armour at the time of monster death.

This is only a theory, but I've had way too many monsters die to firewalls and been jipped of drops. There is a major difference between 0% extra gold and 250% extra gold. I've casted firewall, swapped weapons (before firewall's duration ran out) and gotten 1500 gold; where if I killed a monster with the gold finding weapon equipped I'd properly net 4500 gold or more.

Interesting point of note I think.

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Edit

Yesterday I found a Shadowkilller!?! Another ladder only weapon

the_bogan · Post by **the_bogan** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:59 pm

DeadAlready, I'm telling you that you're not playing with the original 1.11b files.

I've looked at them, and Reapers Toll has a 1 in the ladder column.

Perhaps plugY has enabled the uniques, but not the runewords? I have vague memories about seeing some of the below items in singleplayer using PlugY.

According to the uniqueitems file, these are all ladder only items. Have you seen any of these?

Djinnslayer
Warshrike
Tomb Reaver
Nature's Peace
Azurewrath (the phase blade)
Seraph's Hymn
Shadowdancer
Cerebus
Tyrael's Might
Runemaster
Deathcleaver
Executioner's Justice
Stoneraven
Leviathan
Mang Song's Lesson
Demonhorn's Edge
The Reaper's Toll
Darkforge Spawn
Widowmaker
Shadowkiller
Griffon's Eye
Thunderstroke
Andariel's Visage
Fathom
Kira's Guardian
Gheed's Fortune
Heaven's Light
Metalgrid
Wraithflight

Deadalready · Post by **Deadalready** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:11 am

I've used original install cds and I've only used one patch and it's 1.11 from Blizzard itself, I very rarely install mods to my games. The computer I play diablo 2 on isn't even connected to the internet. I suppose it's not important though, if my drops are slightly glitched it's nothing for me to complain about.

I know of plugY but decided against downloading it in the end, kinda seems unfair that ladder gets all the things but I'm surviving.

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So far I remember finding The Reaper's Toll, Shadowkiller and Gheed's Fortune. Gheed's fortune is a normal item if I'm not mistaken though.