So, I'm wanting to make it through Act 5 with a challenge still but not to the point where I get frustrated from dying five or six times in each tower of judgment level. Now the question is, which would be better.
My lich for some reason enjoys going straight up to the front and pummeling people with his spells (I'm not sending him there, he just usually seems to be ten feet ahead of me) and gets attacked by the enemy constantly.
However, my Nightmare isn't far from getting Mastermind, the skill that improves both nightmare and liche king. Now, which would be more beneficial? A mild improvement to both minions, or a larger improvement to Lich King since he's always ahead of me getting attacked instead of me (Whether or not I set to agressive, normal, or Defensive). the Lich King gets a nova attack pretty soon, so yeah this is getting a bit hard to decide on.
Basically, I'm not looking for the ultra combo of kick-butt-ness. I just want enough that the little goblin demon dudes who have onslaught can't kill everything in two hits a piece. So any suggestions (Note, whether Lich king or nightmare, this is on top of other skills I'm gonna be getting for my own personal imrpovement [trances, auras, etc]).
Liche King or Nightmare First?
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Siberys
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Liche King or Nightmare First?
Listen up maggots, Mr. Popo's 'bout to teach you the pecking order.
It goes you, the dirt, the worms inside of the dirt, Popo's stool, Kami, then Popo.
~Mr. Popo, Dragonball Z Abridged
It goes you, the dirt, the worms inside of the dirt, Popo's stool, Kami, then Popo.
~Mr. Popo, Dragonball Z Abridged
I think getting dream to the final tier will be a big boost. Mastermind will improve damage by 5% per level up but temporal rift sure will rock even more so. With temporal rift maxed I've been able to kill everything in a 360 radius through epic hades (I am in tower of judgement now) I do have +50% electric burn from lucid dream and another huge +%electric burn from visor of the shadowlord.
PS if you are in normal you are probably better off specing out of pets if you notice them dying rather than hogging skill points to keep them alive. Those points can go in something tasty.
Spirit dream would rock with a nice life leach/vitality damage/% attack to health weapon. On normal use the trance that grants even more % attack to health. On other difficulties pick up trance of wrath to lower life drain resistances.
But you are probably a caster...I am always melee.
PS if you are in normal you are probably better off specing out of pets if you notice them dying rather than hogging skill points to keep them alive. Those points can go in something tasty.
Spirit dream would rock with a nice life leach/vitality damage/% attack to health weapon. On normal use the trance that grants even more % attack to health. On other difficulties pick up trance of wrath to lower life drain resistances.
But you are probably a caster...I am always melee.
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Ehh, I'm Melee and no offense but I've already decided to go with both Nightmare and Liche King, so my question still remains the same. Improve Nightmare so that it may improve Liche King, or just Improve Liche King?
Listen up maggots, Mr. Popo's 'bout to teach you the pecking order.
It goes you, the dirt, the worms inside of the dirt, Popo's stool, Kami, then Popo.
~Mr. Popo, Dragonball Z Abridged
It goes you, the dirt, the worms inside of the dirt, Popo's stool, Kami, then Popo.
~Mr. Popo, Dragonball Z Abridged
oh sorry my character is melee AND caster (full armor with high intelligence using -20% requirement items)..
Oh and dream spells don't need intelligence anyhow. Just drink blue pots.
But I will answer your question....(as best as I am able)
The max for mastermind is 40% increase in total damage of pets. Plus a boost to health and energy regeneration.
The max for death nova is 33% health loss in an AOE bomb. And a small vitality damage about 150.
Look at how your pets are doing. If they are mowing things down then mastermind will multiply that times 1.5. If they aren't doing crud then multiply crud times 1.5 and you still have crud. In that case take the 33% damaging AOE attack (passive).
Oh and dream spells don't need intelligence anyhow. Just drink blue pots.
But I will answer your question....(as best as I am able)
The max for mastermind is 40% increase in total damage of pets. Plus a boost to health and energy regeneration.
The max for death nova is 33% health loss in an AOE bomb. And a small vitality damage about 150.
Look at how your pets are doing. If they are mowing things down then mastermind will multiply that times 1.5. If they aren't doing crud then multiply crud times 1.5 and you still have crud. In that case take the 33% damaging AOE attack (passive).
Right Speech has four aspects: 1. Not lying, but speaking the truth, 2. Avoiding rude and coarse words, but using gentle speech beneficial to the listener, 3. Not slandering, but promoting friendliness and unity, 4. Avoiding frivolous speech, but saying only what is appropriate and beneficial.
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Well, hate to break it to you, but the nasties with onslaught (Machae, melinoe and formicids) will kill about anything in two hits no matter what. My fully maxed out core dweller can tell you that. He could tank hades, god of the dead, without his health bar even moving, but a melinoe blademaiden will chew through him like tissue paper.
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Yeah, my pets are doing fine in terms of attack. I'm just saying that occasionally they shoot ahead of me and get pummeled by the enemies (normally they'd stay behind while I get pummeled, which was my idea)
Listen up maggots, Mr. Popo's 'bout to teach you the pecking order.
It goes you, the dirt, the worms inside of the dirt, Popo's stool, Kami, then Popo.
~Mr. Popo, Dragonball Z Abridged
It goes you, the dirt, the worms inside of the dirt, Popo's stool, Kami, then Popo.
~Mr. Popo, Dragonball Z Abridged
Oh I see so your pets are doing enough damage but they need better defense.
Two ideas. Boost the things that defend your pets. For Liche King if you put points to where he gets wraith shell that is when he becomes pretty resilient. For the nightmare put more points in the base skill and the dodge chance goes up very slightly but I doubt he'll get killed since he doesn't draw to much agro.
Or you can use your defensive auras and trances. Death chill aura can slow down anything attacking your pets so they hit them less often. Trance of Convalescence will absorb damage and make them heal fast.
Finally mastermind will make them heal faster between battles which might help.
Edit: a dream character should deal with bladedancers by casting maxed distort reality. Petrify them for 8 seconds deal 1000 electrical burn 200 damage to demons and 100 physical and vitality plus you can tear them apart while they are petrified.
Two ideas. Boost the things that defend your pets. For Liche King if you put points to where he gets wraith shell that is when he becomes pretty resilient. For the nightmare put more points in the base skill and the dodge chance goes up very slightly but I doubt he'll get killed since he doesn't draw to much agro.
Or you can use your defensive auras and trances. Death chill aura can slow down anything attacking your pets so they hit them less often. Trance of Convalescence will absorb damage and make them heal fast.
Finally mastermind will make them heal faster between battles which might help.
Edit: a dream character should deal with bladedancers by casting maxed distort reality. Petrify them for 8 seconds deal 1000 electrical burn 200 damage to demons and 100 physical and vitality plus you can tear them apart while they are petrified.
Right Speech has four aspects: 1. Not lying, but speaking the truth, 2. Avoiding rude and coarse words, but using gentle speech beneficial to the listener, 3. Not slandering, but promoting friendliness and unity, 4. Avoiding frivolous speech, but saying only what is appropriate and beneficial.
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I was thinking a similar route, Wraith Shell and Mastermind (I think the name is).
But just FYI, Deathchill aura doesn't transfer to the liche king for some reason.
But I probably will get either Trance of Convalescence or Empathy. Both are rather good defensive trances, especially when my liche king for some reason keeps going ahead of me when travelling, and then gets pummeled down.
But just FYI, Deathchill aura doesn't transfer to the liche king for some reason.
But I probably will get either Trance of Convalescence or Empathy. Both are rather good defensive trances, especially when my liche king for some reason keeps going ahead of me when travelling, and then gets pummeled down.
Listen up maggots, Mr. Popo's 'bout to teach you the pecking order.
It goes you, the dirt, the worms inside of the dirt, Popo's stool, Kami, then Popo.
~Mr. Popo, Dragonball Z Abridged
It goes you, the dirt, the worms inside of the dirt, Popo's stool, Kami, then Popo.
~Mr. Popo, Dragonball Z Abridged
deathchill doesn't trasnfer to pets but if the pet is next to YOU then the same enemies attacking the pet are slowed. I am saying the aura that is in a radius around you might also envelope the pet. Of couse if your pet is going ahead of you then it doesn't help. But definately take deathchill if you are melee spirit especially.
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