What Do You Want in KotOR III?

Altmer1989 · Post by **Altmer1989** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:59 pm

What really I want for KOTOR III ?

bigredpanda wrote:The two problems you'll face with this are a) what do you do with characters that would be dead, had certain choices been made in K1, and b) how do you introduce Revan to players who have no prior experience of the game? I'd be interested to know your ideas for this.

You have a solid point I mean in the beginning of KOTOR II the game states that most of the crew lay dead or dying so bringing Revan into the picture highly unlikely that is unless Revan survived and escaped onto Peragas in the second game,or was not on the ship in the first place.

DesR85 · Post by **DesR85** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:06 pm

Sithlord1989 wrote:You have a solid point I mean in the beginning of KOTOR II the game states that most of the crew lay dead or dying so bringing Revan into the picture highly unlikely that is unless Revan survived and escaped onto Peragas in the second game,or was not on the ship in the first place.

The problem is, the game didn't mention whose crew was that. They could have been Revan's group or pretty much someone else's for all we know. And since Kreia was among them, I could assume that she hired the crew to search for the Exile.

Altmer1989 · Post by **Altmer1989** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:15 am

What really I want for KOTOR III ?

DesR85 wrote:The problem is, the game didn't mention whose crew was that. They could have been Revan's group or pretty much someone else's for all we know. And since Kreia was among them, I could assume that she hired the crew to search for the Exile.

That is true the game didn't spesify whose crew that was or what battle they were in that must mean sometime duing the jedi civil war Revan must have died or disapeared.Leaving the ship in the hands in the only available jedi at hand.

galraen · Post by **galraen** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:19 am

Sithlord1989 wrote:That is true the game didn't spesify whose crew that was or what battle they were in that must mean sometime duing the jedi civil war Revan must have died or disapeared.Leaving the ship in the hands in the only available jedi at hand.

According to T3M4, Revan left him/her/it in charge of the Ebon Hawk and sent it back whilst he/she went off into the unknown reaches. How the Exile and Krea came to be on board when it ran into the Harbinger initially, prior to them using it to escape from Sion, was never explained IIRC.

Altmer1989 · Post by **Altmer1989** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:15 am

What really I want for KOTOR III ?

galraen wrote:According to T3M4, Revan left him/her/it in charge of the Ebon Hawk and sent it back whilst he/she went off into the unknown reaches. How the Exile and Krea came to be on board when it ran into the Harbinger initially, prior to them using it to escape from Sion, was never explained IIRC.

I wonder where he went probably went back to where the Starforge was to return to the planet with the "what were they called again" tribe and the computer,or maybe he went deep into sith space to root them out.

Darth Valthri · Post by **Darth Valthri** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:16 pm

the only problem with trying to introduce Revan and the Exile is that it would take forever, and it would make the game boring for those of us who know the story. if one wants to play K3, they have to play K1 and K2 first. it's hardly fair for the rest of us that already have. unless the introduction is the Prologue of K3, and we're given the option to skip it. that'd be one long-ass Prologue, though.

anyways, some other things i want in K3:
- (i forget if i mentioned this one or not) bodies stay where they are when you kill something, not that they disappear after a time. it's more realistic that way. unless it's a Jedi/Sith, and they're becoming one with the Force (only for Masters and Sith Lords, not every dark Jedi you come across)
- smarter AI. i can't stand when you've got someone talking to 2 different people in the same line, but they're still looking at the target of the first part of the line. i also can't stand it when there are situations in which you talk to the pilot of the ship and they're facing you and they're still "pressing buttons". also, why would you stand up to talk to a person only to sit right back down? just let Atton stay sitting, imo
- do the lightsaber forms have a universal combat stance? one might expect the look of combat to change with a change of saber form. i'd like to see that

Darth Shishio · Post by **Darth Shishio** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:50 am

First of all I want bioware to develop it (Please please please!) KOTOR 1 had the best storyline you could have wanted from a star wars item.
Second, please please let the battle engine be like that one of Jade empire, where you can actually choose to block instead of hoping to block attacks and vice versa.
Let the diffferent forms of lightsaber wielding have different stances and more force powers. Oh yeah and if you use a dark side force powers you gain significant darkside points. I don't want to go around shocking guys with force lightning and still claim to be a pure servant of the light.
Add coruscant a legendary planet in my view
And you should have the choice of doing what you think is best (or at least improve it as much as they can) where you can choose to infiltrate secretly an enemy fortress or ship or just go through the front door. like assasin's creed.
Revan, the exile, Carth and Bastila have to be there (and although many of you may argue I think they should just give Revan and the Exile one sex or at least follow the canon story of these characters being followed by the guys at Lucasarts.)

Loki[D.d.G] · Post by **Loki[D.d.G]** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:08 am

Darth Shishio

First of all I want bioware to develop it

I thought that Bioware is more or less a confirmed choice to partner LucasArts to produce KOTOR III?

I would like them to introduce a better and smoother engine than that used in KOTOR II.

Altmer1989 · Post by **Altmer1989** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:27 am

What really I want for KOTOR III ?

Darth Shishio wrote:First of all I want bioware to develop it (Please please please!) KOTOR 1 had the best storyline you could have wanted from a star wars item.
Second, please please let the battle engine be like that one of Jade empire, where you can actually choose to block instead of hoping to block attacks and vice versa.
Let the diffferent forms of lightsaber wielding have different stances and more force powers. Oh yeah and if you use a dark side force powers you gain significant darkside points. I don't want to go around shocking guys with force lightning and still claim to be a pure servant of the light.
Add coruscant a legendary planet in my view
And you should have the choice of doing what you think is best (or at least improve it as much as they can) where you can choose to infiltrate secretly an enemy fortress or ship or just go through the front door. like assasin's creed.
Revan, the exile, Carth and Bastila have to be there (and although many of you may argue I think they should just give Revan and the Exile one sex or at least follow the canon story of these characters being followed by the guys at Lucasarts.)

The only thing I want for the game other than what some things that others has metioned is for it not to be online.If that is the case with the game I'll buy it as soon as it comes out.

bigredpanda · Post by **bigredpanda** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:48 am

Darth Shishio wrote: Oh yeah and if you use a dark side force powers you gain significant darkside points. I don't want to go around shocking guys with force lightning and still claim to be a pure servant of the light.
Add coruscant a legendary planet in my view
[snip]
Revan, the exile, Carth and Bastila have to be there (and although many of you may argue I think they should just give Revan and the Exile one sex or at least follow the canon story of these characters being followed by the guys at Lucasarts.)

On force lightning: this is true. In a way, once you'd got master force lightning, the other powers became slightly redundant. It would be good to have some sort of weakness as part of its use.

And yes, coruscant, pleeeeeeease put in coruscant.

As for just putting in revan and exile - well, I guess I've pressed the point over most of this thread. Suddenly deciding that, after 2 games of free choice over what they looked like, now that choice is taken away is to change the game utterly. It's on a par with changing K3 from a single player RPG to an on-line MMO.

Darth Shishio · Post by **Darth Shishio** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:30 am

Yeah you right panda. I guess I was just tired of answering some of those questions. It would be unfair for some of the gamers. But if a movie was to be released ...(that's for another thread)

Kotor! :) :) :) · Post by **Kotor! :) :) :)** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:41 am

Storyline for Kotor III Planet 1 antoine

Planet 1 Dantoine:You start the game in Dantoine were you and a jedi named Yann Selran are in hideing from the Sith after the destruction on Dantoine.You decide to go searching around the jedi temple to look for some survivors, Yann doesn't want to go and says it's too dangerous.You decide to leave anyway and tell Yann you'll be back.You wander around the paths that lead to the jedi temple and find some strange brown animal in the distance walking fast.When you get to the jedi temple you see the Ebon Hawlk there but in peices,You look into a window on the second floor and see some Red sith troopers guarding something.It seems there are many sith troopers walking the halls and you have to get past them by fighting.You lost your lightsaber while the destruction of Dantione has going on so you have to use a viroblade.After the next couple of rooms you see two Sith leaders and there guarding some prisoners.After the battle you go in the room with the prisoners and you see someone that looks farmiliar.Carth is there with the prisoners but he's older now and has a fake hand.You say hi to Carth and say you're going to free him and the prisoners.Carth joins your party.When your just about to leave the brown animal in the distance got closer and you see that it's a rancor!Carth tells you that he has some speeders beside the jedi temple and you run towards them.(This would be a cool part of the game)Your rideing the speeder and the rancor is behind you you have to dodge the rancore when it tries to bite you or slice you in half!You tell Carth to follow you to a cave near by were Yann is and go in.The rancor can't fit and crushes the opening with rocks colapsing on it's head.You meet Yann in the cave and is suprised that he survived.You introduce Yann to Carth and start talking about escapeing Dantione and start scouting the caves for another exit.You have a few encounters with some spider thingys(don't remember what there called)and some giant bats.A flashback happens and you see you from KOTOR 1 in the crystal caves and you're looking around and see another path in the cave then the flash back ends you tell Yann and Carth you think that this the Dantione crystal caves and there's another way out.They encounter more spidery things and see a glowing light at the end of the path and say thats the crystal caves.You walk in and see that you were right(here you can take some lightsaber crystals) and find a corpse of a jedi.Search him and you'll get a lightsaber.Then you see someone standing in the passageway to the exit.You realize it's a dark jedi and he runs over takes out his lightsaber and you start fighting.You kill him and get a red lightsaber(WOOT another lightsaber)and exit the cave.Now a new problem is at hand, how are they going to get a ship.Carth sugests to look around the planet for a place...continued later

Darth Shishio · Post by **Darth Shishio** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:12 am

Hey? are you trying to say that you are playing as Revan or what? It seems to me you are describing him here. Thought he was supposed to be after the true sith and got stuck there thus the exile going to help him

andre93 · Post by **andre93** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:26 pm

Characters:
Cath Onassi (a general on a cut scene movie thing, if the republic is in a massive space battle with the Sith you could see him in a cut scene commanding a republic battleship)
Bastila Shan (If you went to Dantooine it could all be refurbished and tidied up, and bastila could be one of many on the jedi council)
Canderous Ordo (Mandalore, the mandalorians could help the sith in a battle against the republic in a cut scence right at the start of the game, then they could join the republic near the end)
Jolee Bindo (On the outer-rim, could find him on Telos, helping to restore it)
Revan (Could lead an army or Sith out of no-where in a cut scene half way through game, you could chose whether he chose to be sith lord or join republic at start of game and the different story lines could happen, Dark Side could be the Leading the Sith and Light Side could be he's on the Jedi Council on Coruscant)
Atton Rand (Return as a Jedi Knight on Dantooine, he could join your party half way through game then get slain by SITH LORD or by yourself later in game)

Planets:
Corascant - Core Planet, alot could happen there, could have a battle in the senate with Sith lord, could do alot more there too...
Dantooine - in other two, no reason why it shouldnt be in this one, in one of the Episodes of StarWars in the original trilogy it was said that Dantooine was nothing but a wasteland, it could be destroyed in this one...
Korriban - In first two, could meet a Sith Lord here, like Revan, could meet revan in the cave near tombs of the sith lords...
Telos - could go there and meet jolee bindo, or find remains of Atris in the polar region Jedi Academy. the echoes of dead jedi could sound across academy...
Tatooine, could go deep in dune sea, no settlements or anything, just plain nothing, ship (Ebon Hawk or Other) could have crashed there and needs repairing, search dune sea for parts. Dune Could Spread for miles and miles...

Maps: Make Maps loads bigger so player has more to run around and explore, also on planets such as Coruscant you could make transport such as taxis ect... to give you lifts to other parts of map...

Could have transport which player controls...
Speeder, Ebon Hawk or other vessel etc...

Plot:
could start with cut scene of Sith and Mandalorians battling with Republic and the Jedi are fighting too. you could be an apprentice and you and your master are battling with many others. The republic retreat and you, with your master, could fly off in the Ebon Hawk or other vessel. you then go to Dantooine to regain strength and medical. then the Jedi Grand Master will assign you and your master a mission, dunno what that could be, and sends you to corascant. Your master feels a disturbance in the force and guides the Vessel to Korriban instead, but sith fighters find you on the way and start shooting at your vessel, which then crash lands on Tatooine. there you have to find the parts to repair the ship. whilst you're searching, your master remains with the ship. about twenty minutes after the crash, a Sith Lord boards the vessel and murders your master (there could be a cut scence of that).
the player will then return to find his master lying in the medical room, with a Saber scar on his stomach. you go to the cockpit and find the Sith Lord with his hood over his eyes. he then tries to convince you to join him. You then Either join him and end up becoming the true sith, or have to battle him to escape. If you Join him then you and your new master will go to corascant and bring down the republic, in the end you destroy the Dark Lord and assume the title for youself. If you stay loyal to the republic and escape him, you continue the mission the jedi set for you and in the end, destroy Dark Lord and get ranked Jedi Master...

Darth Valthri · Post by **Darth Valthri** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:38 pm

andre93 wrote: Planets:
Dantooine - in other two, no reason why it shouldnt be in this one, in one of the Episodes of StarWars in the original trilogy it was said that Dantooine was nothing but a wasteland, it could be destroyed in this one...

it never said it was a wasteland. Tarkin only said that it was far too remote of a planet to make an effective demonstration of the Death Star's power

andre93 · Post by **andre93** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:23 pm

Darth Valthri wrote:it never said it was a wasteland. Tarkin only said that it was far too remote of a planet to make an effective demonstration of the Death Star's power

So he did

Eric V · Post by **Eric V** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:30 pm

i think it would be cool if it was open like morrowwind. join some guilds like bounty hunters, smugglers, jedi, sith. tons of items and weapons. maybe you could join the rebels or imperils. the world detail would be more important to me than space.

Smiley:) · Post by **Smiley:)** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:19 am

Force Areas

What I want are areas which are strong in the light side or the dark side of the force. In the areas which are strong in the light side light side powers cost less and dark side powers cost more. In the areas which are strong in the dark side dark side powers cost less and light side powers cost more. It would be much more realistic.

There were areas strong in the light side or the dark side of the force but they didn't affect you at all!

Shadow Leader · Post by **Shadow Leader** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:00 am

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic III > What Do You Want in KotOR III?

Revan living with Bastila on her homeworld. They have a family. Both are High
Jedi council members. Have Bastila or Revan teaching their kids how to ride a Banatha that the Tuskan clan leader on Tatooine gave the kids as a birthday present and for Revan helping the Tuskans.

bigredpanda · Post by **bigredpanda** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:27 am

Shadow Leader wrote:Revan living with Bastila on her homeworld. They have a family. Both are High
Jedi council members. Have Bastila or Revan teaching their kids how to ride a Banatha that the Tuskan clan leader on Tatooine gave the kids as a birthday present and for Revan helping the Tuskans.

Really probing the dark side of the universe there.

Btw, I'm not sure that a married couple could be on the Jedi Council...