"True Sith" or Return of Revan

[Darth StosH]

Which one would you rather have KOTOR 3 based upon
lots of fans would love to have Revan return

but what about that claim of Kreia saying they have not even come close to seeing what the "True Sith" can do
that would finish the story of the mysterious "True Sith" that many of us want answered

which would you want for Kotor 3???

[Darth Valthri]

True Sith, even though there's no saying that we can't have Revan return in game 3. Even if he can't though, I'd say that solving the mystery of the True Sith is more important than the return of a redeemed Dark Jedi Lord. Besides, I know what Revan looks like (sorta ). I don't, however, have any idea whatsoever what these True Sith look like, so I'd like to find out.

[Jedi Guardian]

I'd like to have Revan back, but if we could have both that would be nice

[Nightmare]

Personally, I'd like to see where both Revan and The Exile ended up going, and why they did so. Could have links to the True Sith or not; I voted True Sith mostly because I don't think the return of Revan would be that interesting. Instead, I'd like a plot where the game follows the path of another that ends up following Revan and The Exile into unknown space, and finding out why they left and what they're fighting.

[11Revan26]

I think if there is a revan there should be an exile too

[Darth Shishio]

It must be the true sith. The thrid game cannot be based on Revan since the first one already was. But I do really really want Revan to come back. that is a must. But

[marten0305]

There is a way you can combine the two, for the focus of the story. Revan could have met the True Sith and they could have "convinced" Revan to join them. Then through a sequence of events he could have became the Sith Lord of the True Sith.

This way everybody is happy and nobody loses. Revan may have been the focus of the first and having Revan the focus of the third could be a disaster, but if they done it right, they could have a sequel that outdoes the original. The True Sith would have to have more focus then Revan though.

[Darth Shishio]

May be good to combine them, but the true sith still have to take most of the attention then Revan can pop in either as light or dark (I would prefer imprisoned by the true sith) and let the story continue to evolve.

[Clorek]

Well, we can learn more of the true sith, but if they become the main problem in the next installment then .... no one will be able to stop them because:
1. The republic has just barely began stablizing after the Jedi Civil War
2. There's rarely any Jedi left
3. The Old Masters of the Force would make the Jedi/Sith of today look like children playing with toys ( and I doubt the True Sith would allow their skills with the lightsaber to diminish so easily )

Revan, no matter how powerful he/she is, is no match for the True Sith for he's/she's been trained by these "children". Also, Revan left to find the true battle that's being fought elsewhere. If the True Sith is the enemy, who will be the ally? Or vice versa - Sith being the ally and a unknown enemy is found ( but then again, when has the Sith never been the embodiment of the Dark Side ). One side is known to us, but what's the other side? For what's the war when there's only one side? ( easy answer to that )

In truth, I'm just wondering what'd be the problem if it's the True Sith? - who's going to stop em? Cause the Republic is severly weaken, Revan isn't adequently trained enough, and barely is any Jedi are left after the second installment. Maybe there's also True Jedi? And what of the Grey Jedi - hardly anything is mentioned of them. Then again, was it ever disclosed that the exile went in search to join Revan? Or whatever the exile really chose to do after the encounter with Kreia on Malachor V ( sorry if I spelt that wrong ).

Many uncertainies lie - but we must wait to see what they'll choose to do...

Revan - Life of the Force
Exile - Death of the Force
True Sith - Thought to be hidden in the depts of Unknown Space
Republic - Broken but rebuilding - slowly
Jedi Order - Almost (if not) entirely wiped out
Sith Empire - Unknown to what their status is - (other Sith Lords could still exist)

Whatever the case - the ending should end in a way that would eventually lead to the events in Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace

-- Disregard my reply if you disagree with what I say --
-- No one ever said you'd have to listen to me --
-- Believe what you wish, with the way they ended that one, the possibilities are enless --
-- I just want to know whether Revan and the exile are male or female ^_^ --

[bigredpanda]

Whatever the case - the ending should end in a way that would eventually lead to the events in Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace

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Some good points there Clorek.

However, there are like 5000+ years between KOTOR and the events of the Phantom Menace... so "eventually" in the widest possible sense"...

[DesR85]

I actually don't see a point in KOTOR 3 tying up the events prior to Episode 1. Wouldn't that make the game start off somewhere like 2 or 3 years? Though as for which one I'll choose, I'll go for the 'True Sith'. It will give a sense that the whole game revolves around an unknown threat.

[Darth Shishio]

Well, we can learn more of the true sith, but if they become the main problem in the next installment then .... no one will be able to stop them because:
1. The republic has just barely began stablizing after the Jedi Civil War
2. There's rarely any Jedi left
3. The Old Masters of the Force would make the Jedi/Sith of today look like children playing with toys ( and I doubt the True Sith would allow their skills with the lightsaber to diminish so easily )

Revan, no matter how powerful he/she is, is no match for the True Sith for he's/she's been trained by these "children". Also, Revan left to find the true battle that's being fought elsewhere. If the True Sith is the enemy, who will be the ally? Or vice versa - Sith being the ally and a unknown enemy is found ( but then again, when has the Sith never been the embodiment of the Dark Side ). One side is known to us, but what's the other side? For what's the war when there's only one side? ( easy answer to that )

-- I just want to know whether Revan and the exile are male or female ^_^ --

You have a major point but then again, how many times have we seen the galaxy at the edge of destruction by the sith?
No matter how powerful, they can be stopped. Either from their usual inner wrangles or from the usual option of an unseen hero popping up and defeating them (Though it will be difficult, which will be better for gaming). What I think is that they will most probably be destroyed from the inside. By whom... we just have to wait and find out.

As for the jedi order, Kreia told the exile that her (his) followers were going to revive the jedi order, more like the way Luke Skywalker did after the horror of order 66.

I would also want to know whether Revan and the Exile are either male or female, but as it was stated before, it may be unfair for gamers who finished the previous game with different settings and storylines. (Though I do know Lucasfilms considers Revan to be male and The exile to be female in their canon stories.)

ANd its absolutely impossible for KOTOR 3 to tie up events leading up to Episode 1: Phantom Menace, simply because there is a lot that happens between that period. (And when I say a lot, i mean a lot.)

[DesR85]

ANd its absolutely impossible for KOTOR 3 to tie up events leading up to Episode 1: Phantom Menace, simply because there is a lot that happens between that period. (And when I say a lot, i mean a lot.)

Unless if KOTOR 3 demonstrated the extermination of the Sith or their sudden disappearance at one point in the game, then it would corroborate with Master Windu's statement of the Sith not being heard of for over a millennia in Episode 1. But I do agree that the time gap is too big to tie in the events between KOTOR 3 and Episode 1.

[bigredpanda]

I like Des's idea of the "unknown threat" more than the return of Revan - if I want to play as Revan, I'll play K1 again. Fundamentally I'd like to see a lot of twists and turns in the story. Not just a "here are the bad guys, get really strong and beat them" type affair - what if followers of the True Sith had infiltrated the Republic already? So yes. More intrigue, betrayal, etc., less predictable plot line. I think you could do that if you have the True Sith but keep them "hidden" for as long as possible.

[Darth Valthri]

Unless if KOTOR 3 demonstrated the extermination of the Sith or their sudden disappearance at one point in the game, then it would corroborate with Master Windu's statement of the Sith not being heard of for over a millennia in Episode 1. But I do agree that the time gap is too big to tie in the events between KOTOR 3 and Episode 1.

actually, it was Ki Adi Mundi who said that the Sith had been extinct for over a millenia, but yeah, like you and multiple others have stated, the time gap really is ridiculously large to cover.

however, we don't really know for how long over a millenia that KAM was talking about. i mean, let's say Revan, the Exile, and whoever the subject character of K3 is destroy all of the True Sith. the Sith of the movies aren't really Sith, just a bunch of pathetic, overly-emotional (Anakin) wannabes. so maybe the True Sith are wiped out by our 3 super-heroes, and then there's one person (or maybe a few more) who manage to avoid elimination, and begin to rebuild the Sith Empire over the next few millenia, ending up with what we got in EP. 1

[Darth Shishio]

I hope you guys do remember why the sith had disappeared for a millennium before appearing again at Episode 1: The Phantom Menace. It was because of a sith in the first place. Do you guys remember Darth Bane, the one who enforced the Rule Of Two for the Sith, goaded the brotherhood of darkness into detonating the thought bomb thus destroying almost all of the remaining sith apart from him and his apprentice. So i don't think Kotor 3 can tie up events since this here does.
But what it can tie up is the emergence of Darth Ruin, since it is said he resurrected the sith at around 2,000 BBY. How and why I don't know, so let's hope to find out.

[Darth Valthri]

I hope you guys do remember why the sith had disappeared for a millennium before appearing again at Episode 1: The Phantom Menace. It was because of a sith in the first place. Do you guys remember Darth Bane, the one who enforced the Rule Of Two for the Sith, goaded the brotherhood of darkness into detonating the thought bomb thus destroying almost all of the remaining sith apart from him and his apprentice. So i don't think Kotor 3 can tie up events since this here does.
But what it can tie up is the emergence of Darth Ruin, since it is said he resurrected the sith at around 2,000 BBY. How and why I don't know, so let's hope to find out.

not to seem rude here, but i hope YOU remember that the "Sith" of the movies aren't really Sith, they're just Dark Jedi. and i thought that some Sith Lord or another managed to acquire a holocron left by Revan, and he learned a bunch from it. if so, i also thought that they learned about the thought bomb from that. i'm almost positive on the holocron part, but less so on the thought bomb part.

[Darth Shishio]

You may be right about the sith in episode 1, they may actually Dark Jedi calling themselves sith. But still, my point is that Darth Bane, destroyed the Brotherhood of Darkness at around 1,000 BBY. Isn't that the millenium Ki Adi Mundi (or Mace Windu or whomever) was talking about? Since they were not talking about True Sith in the form of Darth Maul and Sidious, I know they were speaking about the sith, sorry, dark Jedi, that were around a millenium ago, coz since then, they hadn't been seen for all that time.
Either way around, call them Dark Jedi, call them Sith, I don't think KOTOR 3 can tie up events in Phantom Menace.

[XRichX]

Yeah i think it should be Revan's return, we need to know more about his background and what happened after KOTOR I, although we could implement both stories into one perhaps, play as the exile and Raven. A bit like the style of Halo two with Master Cheif and the Arbiter.

During the course of the game you switch between the two main characters but you still have a group.

Exile with his/her group of chars.

Revan with Carth, Bastila etc.

[andre93]

Darth Revan should return, playable or not he must return, aswell as the True Sith, it'd be pretty cool putting them together. Should make at least one of them playable, i'd say make True Sith the playable one as Revan has already been a playable character