Templar: Trance of Wrath or Convalesence?

GawainBS · Post by **GawainBS** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:46 am

Like the title said, which would you use?
I used ToC for my Harbinger, because without a shield, she was quite vunerable.

Thanks in advance!

V3Z0W · Post by **V3Z0W** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:59 am

U let out of the picture Empathy, wich is best, imo... Anyways, from these two I'd prefer Convalescence, if nothing else, I'm a Templar and it would be an addtion to his surviving skills. A bit off topic, but so 2 mention, my build, doesn't have neither, and I'm not planning on putting points into, either. Empathy rocks...

GawainBS · Post by **GawainBS** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:01 am

I find the life leech too small and I don't like to rely on something that requires me to be hit in the first place.

V3Z0W · Post by **V3Z0W** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:40 am

GawainBS wrote:I find the life leech too small and I don't like to rely on something that requires me to be hit in the first place.

:laugh:... Good point, though.

Claudius · Post by **Claudius** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:54 am

ToW depends on what types of damage you do. Endgame the electrical burn is nice but not a killer and its the debuff to resists that counts. If you are wielding a club and doing physical damage you will not need ToW much because not many opponents possess physical resistance. If doing a lot of piercing damage it becomes better. In that vein I would not use ToW with a templar because they are less known for pierce. Possibly only if I wanted attack damage converted to health (and affect undead and constructs) or maybe a thorny maul is enough pierce to want the debuff?

GawainBS · Post by **GawainBS** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:18 pm

I have no idea what weapons I'm going to be wielding. Thorny Maul sounds a looooong way off. ToC is probably a better bet then. I guess ToW meshes better with a Haruspex then?

Thanks for the advice!

Claudius · Post by **Claudius** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:02 pm

The electrical burn damage will be very good in normal (you mention thorny long way off). Go ahead and use that (ToW) in normal but I would select another trance later on with the mystic. ToW is good for a earth-dream early on you can own everything with damage auras. ToW is also good later on for a dreamkiller since they do poison/bleed/pierce (including traps). Not that I have played a dreamkiller yet but I was considering. I think Haruspex could use any trance in that retributive damage/life leach and health + mana recharge/ damage absorption are never bad. There is no dream trance that is really terrible and dream skills in general are so good that early you can either spend heavily on a trance or pop just 1 pt in 1 and either way its a good move.

Darkrhyno18 · Post by **Darkrhyno18** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:27 am

GawainBS wrote:I find the life leech too small and I don't like to rely on something that requires me to be hit in the first place.

Although I do agree with your point here, you are inevitably going to get hit being a melee character so I think Trance of Empathy is your best bet still, if nothing else the 60% dmg reflect is always your friend.

I run a lvl 60 Ritualist which is night and day I know, but have found myself sticking to ToC. With this my 5 pets and myself are always up with the exception of Typhon & Hades and very few of the special monsters. I put 1 point into ToW only for that skelly dude in the "turtle area" which has super resists and besides that it is rarely ever on.

I am just thinking with your build (whereas you will be getting hit often) that ToE is probably your best bet.

Just my 2 cents.

GawainBS · Post by **GawainBS** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:24 pm

I see what you mean, but with Defense, and as a melee character, I would also try to take as less damage as possible. (Resist, Armour, Absorb, etc.)
I do think that it works greats with lots of pets, like you described.