Haer Dalis deadline, Hendak? (spoilers)

mattc · Post by **mattc** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:55 pm

So I'm trying a second run through with an evil party (I guess I'm addicted).

I'm at the very beginning of the new game now. I know I want Haer Dalis in my party for most of the game. I'd like to get him ASAP--but I'm not ready for the Planar Prison yet.

Does anyone know how long I have after getting H.D. before he gets nasty and leaves?

Also, I'd like to get the big discount from Bernard ASAP (for recharging wands). Do you get that discount as soon as you save Hendak, or do you also have to free the kids in the stockade to get it?

fable · Post by **fable** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:25 pm

mattc wrote:So I'm trying a second run through with an evil party (I guess I'm addicted).

No. Addicted when you've played it, and added tons of mods, more than half a dozen times.

I'm at the very beginning of the new game now. I know I want Haer Dalis in my party for most of the game. I'd like to get him ASAP--but I'm not ready for the Planar Prison yet.

Does anyone know how long I have after getting H.D. before he gets nasty and leaves?

I've never had him get angry. If you don't return to the tavern with the gem, you can just keep him in your party.

Also, I'd like to get the big discount from Bernard ASAP (for recharging wands). Do you get that discount as soon as you save Hendak, or do you also have to free the kids in the stockade to get it?

After you release Hendak, and he takes over.

mattc · Post by **mattc** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:38 pm

Great. I'll go get H.D. soon then.

Do you know how long I have to get Korgan's book before he gets annoyed? (really enjoying his smart mouth, btw.)

Lopov · Post by **Lopov** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:11 pm

But if you're playing as an evil guy, why free Hendak?Instead kill him for Lehtinan and you'll get a discount from him.

Korgan can be quite annoying, I don't know the time limit, but he'll remind you quite often to finish the quest.

fable · Post by **fable** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:25 pm

Lopov wrote:But if you're playing as an evil guy, why free Hendak?Instead kill him for Lehtinan and you'll get a discount from him.

Now, if you really want to play an evil party, the way to go is with the Valen mod. She's powerful, no question, but she also imposes her personality on your choices. She'll jump in and make sure that certain situations are faced...correctly.

mattc · Post by **mattc** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:12 pm

I didn't realize I could kill Hendak and get the discount that way. I hate to lose the quest XP . . . but if there's an actual evil plot line, I'm definitely gonna follow it.

I did hear know about the Valen mod, but I decided not to use it this time around, still exploring the vanilla game. If it turns out I am really addicted I'm sure I'll give her a try eventually.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Lopov · Post by **Lopov** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:14 am

Valen mod is a good mod, she'll get you into some serious fightings you will not be able to avoid

About killing Hendak, there is a spoiler below:

Spoiler

Once you gain access to back rooms of Copper Coronet, go to the jail and if you have charisma high enough, you can convince the guards that you're one of Lehtinan's guests and they won't attack you.Otherwise just kill them, other guards in the main room don't turn hostile, neither does Lehtinan.Then go near Hendak's cell and he'll initiate a dialogue, I think you'll know what to do then if you're evil...

:mischief:

And if you're playing with Unfinished business mod, there is also a chance to get some slaves for Lethinan, but I won't reveal it to you unless you want to.

Stworca · Post by **Stworca** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:23 am

For future tries (after you discover that you ARE indeed addicted

) look for Longer Road mod too.
And if you wont side with.. you know who.. to get Valen, there's Ninde.

Lopov · Post by **Lopov** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:29 am

Longer Road is also good, but I must admit that I expected much more from the main quest (the one in WK).Firstly, you can easily destroy the quest if you're playing as evil, because I

Spoiler

killed Aesgareth on sight and the Gem for the Deva wasn't on his body

and I didn't really find the quest overall so exciting.Beside that it's ok, just too many words in certain dialogues.

But enough off-topic.