Picking Locks if you are not Rogue

blacktryst · Post by **blacktryst** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:01 pm

If you are not a rogue, can you pick locks if you invest points in that skill like any other RPG game? Also, if you cannot pick the lock and you do not have a rogue in your team, can you bash open locked boxes, chests like in NWN 2?

Aqua-chan · Post by **Aqua-chan** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:15 pm

Lock picking requires the "Deft Hands" Talent branch, which only the Rogue class has access to. Twenty hours in I'm still at a loss for any other method to open sealed chests - since quest-important areas are never behind a locked door that you can't get a key to, I suspect you can't just bash them open.

Nightmare · Post by **Nightmare** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:20 pm

You need a Rogue with the appropriate skill to pick locks, and its the only way; no bashing, no "Knock"-like spell.

I think the reasoning is that since there's only three classes, if Mages or Warriors could open locked doors/chests it would make Rogues quite a bit more redundant.

fable · Post by **fable** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:50 pm

Has anyone else found Daveth somewhat less than inspiring when it comes to opening chests? As he never gains XP, I can only guess he's a second tier NPC: keep him alive, use him for battle, otherwise he's good for just about nothing.

Ragin Cajun · Post by **Ragin Cajun** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:40 pm

Spoiler

If you haven't reached the Joining yet, the reason that he never gains XP is:

he dies and you can't keep him in your party.

fable · Post by **fable** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:32 am

Ragin Cajun wrote:If you haven't reached the Joining yet, the reason that he never gains XP is:

he dies and you can't keep him in your party.

Yeah, got that. Still, I wish he'd had the skills. After all, there are chests in camp and in the wilds that nobody can pick in your party at that point.

Kheros · Post by **Kheros** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:55 am

Those chests like those in the starting background areas are extras for those who pick a rogue to play

Aqua-chan · Post by **Aqua-chan** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:31 am

Kheros wrote:Those chests like those in the starting background areas are extras for those who pick a rogue to play

As a rogue there were some chests in the Camp and Wilds that were utterly beyond my PC's skill. Given Daveth's apparent history, I thought he might have a higher lock picking skill, but no such luck. There were things I couldn't open even up until the time I left the area.

Nightmare · Post by **Nightmare** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:42 am

Playing as a Rogue, the first chests that I encountered that I couldn't open weren't til Redcliffe (which I went first after Lothering). Granted, I had the second-tier skill and a Cunning of about 22, so that might've been why I didn't have too many problems with locks.

Its weird that they wouldn't try to give Daveth some form of skill picking locks though, since he IS the first NPC rogue you encounter. You'd think they would want you to be able to open chests, as not being able to is...frustrating.

fable · Post by **fable** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:53 am

Nightmare wrote:Its weird that they wouldn't try to give Daveth some form of skill picking locks though, since he IS the first NPC rogue you encounter. You'd think they would want you to be able to open chests, as not being able to is...frustrating.

I have to wonder whether it was an oversight, something they'll correct in a patch. After all, they did give him stealth, and the ability to handle poisons. Surely a city boy used to picking pockets (and the actor's Cockney accent was great, though it plays into stereotypes yet-again) like Daveth would also have a level in opening locked chests? It makes no sense as it is.