vampire in slums

zanthia · Post by **zanthia** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:49 pm

How do you defeat the vampire in the slums. I have changed the difficulty to easy and less spawn but still can't even survive when she is around. the problem is that she freezes me and then I get attacked by the non stop spawning thieves. so the first thing i have to do when i unfreeze is heal but by then i am frozen again and getting attacked. I do put it on pause to unfreeze but it doesn't really help as a second later i am frozen again. there is no time to both heal and get a spell or shoot an arrow at her here.

I am level 9 and just finished defeating Esmeralda who was also very difficult,. what saved me was buying lots of magic missile scrolls( tried fireball and it didn't do much damage at all) and then attacking her right by the exit door so I could leave and heal( luckily the vampire was not around then)

the monsters in general are still less than 1000 a piece yet it is 500,000 to go from level 9 to level 10. this doesn't seem right. even when i went to do the adept and mage quest, the monster exp average was not any higher outside town.

Cionaoith · Post by **Cionaoith** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:13 pm

Level 9 is a bit early for this quest. It can be done, but I would come back later; after gaining a couple class advancements. By then, you will probably be around level 20-25.

zanthia · Post by **zanthia** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:17 pm

where can I go to gain levels. The slums are out as it is too low experience plus the vampire is around somewhere. I tried to head towards arindale and got bombarded with a ton of mushrooms after talking to the guard at the wall of the city( and this is with less spawning which I do not think is working at all) who I could not kill. i was able to escape and went back to town.

swcarter · Post by **swcarter** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:04 am

The wilderness might still be the way to go. Just save your game before venturing out.

For enemies who try to freeze you, block with your shield. You can also bring up your inventory until the effect wears off.

SWC

zanthia · Post by **zanthia** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:36 am

swcarter wrote:The wilderness might still be the way to go. Just save your game before venturing out.

For enemies who try to freeze you, block with your shield. You can also bring up your inventory until the effect wears off.

SWC

blocking with the shield only works if there is one enemy such as with esmeralda but when you are surrounded it doesn't work such as when i was trying to fight the vampire.

where in the wilderness should i go? as I said i tried going to arindale but can't get past the zillions of mushrooms.

my weapons are not very good but nothing is better for sale. Are there any spells I should have or make. I do have the poison cloud spell and that works well against thieves and soldiers but not the mushrooms.

Cionaoith · Post by **Cionaoith** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:20 am

Go north instead of south. If you can find the Rothn camp, their soldiers will help you kill anything that attacks you while you are there. Using your poison cloud, you should easily do at least one point to most of the horde, so you'll get a lot of easy experience that way.

galraen · Post by **galraen** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:12 am

If you can still enter Fargrove, then you could also exit via the south gate and explore the Demigoth lands, make your way to skuldoon and fight in the arena, need money for that though.

The easy alternative is to enter the Monastry, find the guard who patrols the area, set monster frequency and difficulty to max and walk around with the guard. Equip a bow, and once all the monsters are attacking the guard shoot away, cheesy perhaps, but easy money.

The other option is to make your way to the Lost Lake via Talendor and swim out to the big island; climb/jump up onto one of the spikes at the altar and pick off Moonbeasts to your heart's content.

pwcook · Post by **pwcook** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:52 pm

"I tried to head towards arindale and got bombarded with a ton of mushrooms after talking to the guard at the wall of the city( and this is with less spawning which I do not think is working at all) who I could not kill. i was able to escape and went back to town."

Those mushrooms are a one-time spawn. You will see them again, but not so many at once (usually between 4 and 6 at a time)

zanthia · Post by **zanthia** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:38 pm

thanks for the tips. I went to the rothn camp and with the help of the soldiers I did put it on hard and more frequent and in less than 2 hours I got 300,000 exp and went to level 10. wow, now I need 1 million to get to level 11.

I put it back to easy and less encounters but still cannot defeat the mushrooms. please can someone tell me what tactics to use and what spell is good against them as going melee would be impossible

Cionaoith · Post by **Cionaoith** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:36 pm

Just keep training; I almost always focus on melee characters, and I do accomplish killing those mushrooms with melee tactics. I don't think I try to do so at such a low level, though. I always take the north route to Arindale the first time going there.

There is no need to take the southern route until you are ready to take on the quests that you will receive down there (which you are definitely not - I wouldn't even think about attempting the easier of the two quests at lower than level 15; the harder at 30). By the time I take the southern route, I've usually finished my class training, and am at around level 40-50. That's a little bit higher than 11.

Of course, it is possible to go through all those mushrooms if you want to be stubborn about it: just stock up on your potions. That is the only "tactic" that will work at your level.

Except for when I climb out of the northern woods to run to Lost Lake, I don't think I've ever gone beyond Fargrove lower than level 15. But notice I said, "run" - I'm not trying to fight off the hoards on the way there - I run to the island and climb the celestial altar to pick off moonbeasts for a while.

swcarter · Post by **swcarter** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:21 pm

What kind of character are you playing? A spell like blast nova is useful when you're surrounded. You can also get through a lot of fights just by walking backwards and firing your ranged weapon.

SWC

zanthia · Post by **zanthia** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:37 pm

Cionaoith wrote:Just keep training; I almost always focus on melee characters, and I do accomplish killing those mushrooms with melee tactics. I don't think I try to do so at such a low level, though. I always take the north route to Arindale the first time going there.

There is no need to take the southern route until you are ready to take on the quests that you will receive down there (which you are definitely not - I wouldn't even think about attempting the easier of the two quests at lower than level 15; the harder at 30). By the time I take the southern route, I've usually finished my class training, and am at around level 40-50. That's a little bit higher than 11. Of course, it is possible to go through all those mushrooms if you want to be stubborn about it: just stock up on your potions. That is the only "tactic" that will work at your level.

Except for when I climb out of the northern woods to run to Lost Lake, I don't think I've ever gone beyond Fargrove lower than level 15. But notice I said, "run" - I'm not trying to fight off the hoards on the way there - I run to the island and climb the celestial altar to pick off moonbeasts for a while.

Cionaoith , I have already done everything you can do in fargrove except the vampire

to go to level 10 to level 11 at where i was leveling at the guards in bolen fields based on the rate I did to get to level 10 would be 6-7 hours. And if each level doubles in experiencee I am not about to spend an insane amount of hours in one spot to level. clearly the game can't be meant to be played like that. As it is I spend time leveling at the huts in the beginning to level 8 before going to the sewers. I have nothing against leveling for a few hours but already I have spent MUCH much more time leveling than actually playing.

I have not yet left fargrove via the southern exit , only the western exit. I wonder if you are referring to different mushrooms. these are the ones north of arindale gate that you have to pass to do the quest at lake lohr so you can get into arindale. ( collectors edition)

SWCarter,

I am currently an adept mage and am planning on working up to a warwitch( 2nd tier classes will be sorcerer and valkyre) as that appears to be the best mix of magic and melee.

I still have the basic bow I got from a goblin and the shops are not selling them, would love to get a better one. I think I may have a blast nova scroll. I will check to see if I can buy them as I am pretty sure I have not seen the spellbook.

swcarter · Post by **swcarter** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:01 am

zanthia wrote:I have not yet left fargrove via the southern exit , only the western exit. I wonder if you are referring to different mushrooms. these are the ones north of arindale gate that you have to pass to do the quest at lake lohr so you can get into arindale. ( collectors edition)

That isn't actually Arindale's gate. That's just a gate to an elven outpost. If you circle around to the north (via Talendor and Lost Lake) then you should be able to get into Arindale without facing the mushrooms.

SWC

Lady Kate · Post by **Lady Kate** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:53 am

The mushrooms..

One at a time..

It's a LONG process. Use your bow, climb on rocks, do what you have to do. This is a test--and it will teach you how to deal with those dang pests that spew the gas. Just think--wouldn't it be nice if YOU had some of that gas to use against your opponents? :mischief: You're gonna WANT to meet up with those danged mushrooms eventually!

But a blast nova scroll goes a LONG way to clearing out masses when you're impatient. lol

Personally, I think they're cute. I love the way they close up when they're guarding! :laugh:

Lady Kate · Post by **Lady Kate** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:11 am

Levelling up and bows..

When you finally kill those danged mushrooms and get your ordained favor out on the lake, there is a merchant behind those doors you're trying to pass that sells a great bow. Playing a Hunter and then Ranger Lord, I've learned a real appreciation for the bow/ranged attacks.

As for spending an insane amount of time levelling up....

that would be me.

I *love* the moonbeast island, the arena in Skuldoon, and really--the wilderness, expecially south and at night..*heh* offers great possibilities. But once you've hit the million point mark, it takes only another million to get to the next level. I didn't notice at what level it started costing 1M to level up, but once it does, future levels all cost 1M.

As for training--I like to change it up. I try melee, I try magic, I try the different weapons, different spells. I find out which spells work best against different beasties..

I still don't use my shield as much as I *should*, but when I do, I *need* it. You *can* blast nova yourself through the game, but after a while, I find that gets boring.

btw, I sure hope you're *collecting* all that ochre pollen the mushrooms drop..

file read error · Post by **file read error** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:45 am

Personally, I think they're cute. I love the way they close up when they're guarding!

Personally, I hate those mush mans with a passion! They spawn directly below your feet, so you will always get hit (and poisoned) unless you react instantly (which is very hard to do)! And ranged weapons like knives do, for some obscure reason, aim at a spot where most of them will miss, I think the target spot is several centimeters above the mushroom's head and so when firing knives horizontally most of them will just fly over the mushroom and don't do any damage. Blast Nova works well if you have several charges, but barring that, the only real option is melee and even then they're still very annoying. Their hits can stun the character, they block way too often, their gas causes the character to choke and be unable to fight back, etc... they're downright annoying. Some time ago one of my characters (don't know which one) wanted to get Ordained Favor but I couldn't kill the mush mans so I ran past everything, and when I came back from the tower I was locked up by all the mushrooms camping on the ground beside the ladder... and then I died.

Lady Kate · Post by **Lady Kate** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:24 am

file read error wrote:Personally, I hate those mush mans with a passion! ...... and when I came back from the tower I was locked up by all the mushrooms camping on the ground beside the ladder... and then I died.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

That's what you get for procrastinating.

I dunno, I used both my bow and melee the first two times.. After that, I blast nova'd them all to heck. But I cheat--I rely heavily on that bargaining 'bug' as you call it. I don't go outta the house without a chitload of 'novas, now. I don't use them as often as I used to--I *finally* discovered that your advancement costs per skill goes DOWN as you USE your weapons.

zanthia · Post by **zanthia** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:53 pm

I have some good news to report. I went back to town and spent all my money on spellbooks. Bought 8 blast novas and a few fire blasts plus I had about 20 poison clouds ( lady kate is that were you referring to when you said be sure to collect the ochre pollen the mushrooms drop). And then off to try the mushrooms. I was on easy and less spawns before and there were tons of them. this time there were NONE!!!!! so swam out to the island and was pleasantly surprised how easy I killed the shade. There were no mushrooms on the way back either. Now I am inside the walls and went to the seller that sells the better bows. there were 2 of them. I want to get the better of the two but am now broke. plan to hang around the area and make enough to get the money for it.

what is the bargaining BUG you speak of. It sounds like a way to make some money. My bargain is either 2 or 3. please explain in detail.

Lady Kate · Post by **Lady Kate** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:22 pm

zanthia wrote:....what is the bargaining BUG you speak of. It sounds like a way to make some money. My bargain is either 2 or 3. please explain in detail.

*heh* I don't consider it a BUG at all. The people WANT you to defeat this EVIL they are facing. As your honor goes up, so does your influence. As your Bargaining skills go up, you are better able to negotiate prices. Eventually your influence is such that you can buy something from a seller, and then sell it back to them at a HIGHER price.

Just as, you may only have katals, but as you're able to make spells, you can buy katals, create the spell and then sell the spell to merchants. If your katals cost less than the selling price of the spell, you can make money!

Be wary, however. Not all merchants are ..e.r.. equal. LOL

Good luck!

file read error · Post by **file read error** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:22 pm

I dunno, I used both my bow and melee the first two times.. After that, I blast nova'd them all to heck. But I cheat--I rely heavily on that bargaining 'bug' as you call it. I don't go outta the house without a chitload of 'novas, now. I don't use them as often as I used to--I *finally* discovered that your advancement costs per skill goes DOWN as you USE your weapons.

Well... why would you absolutely want to play my mod if you ruin your game by using such methods? No matter how "hard" I make my enemies, against such bargain cheating they don't stand no chance in hell. And I cannot fix the exploit because I would do so right away if I could, so it's still there in my mod.

I have some good news to report. I went back to town and spent all my money on spellbooks. Bought 8 blast novas and a few fire blasts plus I had about 20 poison clouds ( lady kate is that were you referring to when you said be sure to collect the ochre pollen the mushrooms drop). And then off to try the mushrooms. I was on easy and less spawns before and there were tons of them. this time there were NONE!!!!!

You know, sometimes monsters are erased from the game if you get far away from them. Maybe that's what happened to the mushrooms in your case.

what is the bargaining BUG you speak of. It sounds like a way to make some money. My bargain is either 2 or 3. please explain in detail.

Actually it's better to just play without this bug, as it has ruined the game for me on several occasions - if you can cheat endless amounts of money anyway, what's the use of it being dropped by monsters? It's just sad. Seriously, you couldn't PAY me enough to ever make me assign points into bargain ever again. It was simply THE best decision I ever made in my Dungeon Lords career: the decision to forego the cheesy bargain skill and make do without it! Since then I'm really enjoying the game SOOOOOOO much more!

That's what you get for procrastinating.

Well, now I have learned from my mistakes and shall prevail. Now, whenever I notice a squad of mush mans appearing below my feet, I switch to blast nova instantly and just say **** *** to them, eradicating all of them in a single shot. The same applies to annoying bees, by the way, although sometimes one or two bees out of a swarm survive the nova which is annoying because often this last bee manages to hit me, instantly poisoning me. But meanwhile my new character (a Zaur Thief/Mage/Hunter/Battlemage/Ranger Lord

) has such a high amount of poison resistance that I can wait out the poison at a campfire and the poison effect actually stops after some time! YEEHAW!