what do you all think about windows XP

NeKr0mAnCeR · Post by **NeKr0mAnCeR** » Sat Oct 27, 2001 2:25 am

i got a trial version, it looks good. what do you think of it (those that have it)

Minerva · Post by **Minerva** » Sat Oct 27, 2001 4:29 am

Check [url="http://www.gamebanshee.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=9&t=001572"]this thread[/url], too.

Celegorm · Post by **Celegorm** » Sun Oct 28, 2001 11:35 am

love it, solid as a rock.

Rob-hin · Post by **Rob-hin** » Sun Oct 28, 2001 11:46 am

Yo NeKr0mAnCeR, are you also on the formule.forum?

If this is not you, then there is an other necromancer out there. (the thought of it scares me...

)

CM · Post by CM » Sun Oct 28, 2001 11:46 am

haven't tried it, but it is mircosoft so i will wait at least a year before all the bugs are taken care of before buying it.
Also many programs from what i hear don't work with it.
But i heard the graphics are great.

Nightmare · Post by **Nightmare** » Sun Oct 28, 2001 2:25 pm

So far, hate it. My dad is trying to get it onto our machine. Almost all the hardware is incompatible with it. Our DVD (HUGE problem), printer, the digital camera, to name a few.

fable · Post by **fable** » Sun Oct 28, 2001 2:30 pm

I've a techie friend who's trying to convince me to try it in a multiple partition. So far, I've resisted. A gain of 20% on speed and the ability to keep crashes in particular windows is not an inovation. DesqView was able to do that a decade ago in PC-based DOS.

I am considering a partition so I can run Linux, however.

Quark · Post by **Quark** » Mon Oct 29, 2001 7:05 am

Well, fable, how do you use your computer?

Games, mp3s? If so, you really should use a partition. The first one set purely as an OS and work-software partition (and virtual memory) gives the virtual memory a much bigger space to use it. Game installs take a huge amount of space (and time) nowadays, using up another area's space helps.

MP3s, these should definately be on a seperate partition than C:\. The best explanation is simple: If you want to re-install (and wipe the main partition), you don't have to waste time backing up your MP3s.

On my new computer (which will FINALLY be ready w/in a week), I have the following set-up on a 60 gig harddrive:

C:\ OS and any Non-game applications (of which there will be little, I'll keep using this laptop for schoolwork). 5-10 gigs.

D:\ Games. Only games. 20-30 gigs.

E:\ MP3s and Anime movies (75-150 megs for one 20 minute episode!). Takes all the remaining space, 25-35 gigs.

My Documents might be on E:\ just to keep that same theory - reformat made easier. I end up reformatting ALOT.

fable · Post by **fable** » Mon Oct 29, 2001 7:32 am

@Quark, ever since moving to Windows 3.0 years ago I've used a hard drive partition for various reasons--years before most people tried 'em, in fact. (Hell, I used to run Windows through DOS-based DesqView sometimes, which meant that Windows itself was the subject of multitasking.) But I've no interest in trying out Windows XP inside one. From everything I've seen and the demos I've tried, it's actually a slower, heavier version of the same old thing with a couple of old tricks disguised as new ones.

And I agree with other writers in the field that Microsoft has basically run out of the all the ideas they could borrow. They've never been a group of innovators; only consolidators, buyers and appropriators of the ideas of others. This is not a bad thing, necessarily, but when you have tens of thousands of people believing in the same mindset, internal change becomes difficult. For Microsoft to really produce a new version of their platform that will grab the imagination, they need to rethink how people actually use computers, rather than just treating the techno-end of things.

[ 10-29-2001: Message edited by: fable ]

NeKr0mAnCeR · Post by **NeKr0mAnCeR** » Mon Oct 29, 2001 10:35 am

Originally posted by Rob-hin:
Yo NeKr0mAnCeR, are you also on the formule.forum?

If this is not you, then there is an other necromancer out there. (the thought of it scares me... )

<snipped by Buck>

[ 10-29-2001: Message edited by: Buck Satan ]

Silur · Post by **Silur** » Mon Oct 29, 2001 10:46 am

Originally posted by fable:
I've a techie friend who's trying to convince me to try it in a multiple partition. So far, I've resisted. A gain of 20% on speed and the ability to keep crashes in particular windows is not an inovation. DesqView was able to do that a decade ago in PC-based DOS.

I am considering a partition so I can run Linux, however.

Way to go, Fable. Linux is starting to look pretty good. Personally, I favour FreeBSD, but that's just semantics (I hope this won't start a war

in Linux circles). There's even some really decent games being released on Linux.

When it comes to M$ "innovations" I agree with you (well, we've had this discussion before

)

NeKr0mAnCeR · Post by **NeKr0mAnCeR** » Mon Oct 29, 2001 11:45 am

Originally posted by Rob-hin:
Yo NeKr0mAnCeR, are you also on the formule.forum?

If this is not you, then there is an other necromancer out there. (the thought of it scares me... )

could you gimme a link to it

Nightmare · Post by **Nightmare** » Mon Oct 29, 2001 5:36 pm

Originally posted by Myself:
So far, hate it. My dad is trying to get it onto our machine. Almost all the hardware is incompatible with it. Our DVD (HUGE problem), printer, the digital camera, to name a few.

And now I love it.

We worked out the incompatibilities. Its cool.

So much faster.

fable · Post by **fable** » Thu Nov 01, 2001 11:19 am

To quote a columnist, "A cool interface with better multimedia support. The downside? A draconian activation scheme, relentless promotion of Microsoft products, a slew of security holes and many limits on what applications you can run." I'm especially worried over the security holes, which are very easy to access--and given Microsoft's history, will probably lead to upgrades only when problems become nationwide and hit the headlines.

I will also note that Windows XP does *not* provide de facto standard enabling technologies like a Java virtual machine and MP3 encoding--why? Because it wants to supply its own supposedly superior versions. All this means much less support for third party applications, games and files that use these technologies.

[ 11-01-2001: Message edited by: fable ]

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Thu Nov 01, 2001 9:05 pm

There is a JVM add on for XP. In fact, I believe it is included on the CD. It simply is not installed by default. Not 100% sure it is on the CD though.

fable · Post by **fable** » Thu Nov 01, 2001 9:09 pm

It's not on the CD. Microsoft is trying to promote its own solution, so the third-party utility simply doesn't exist, from their POV.

Azeroth · Post by **Azeroth** » Fri Nov 02, 2001 9:15 am

I like Win 2k better, it seems more stable even though they are both built on the same kernel.