scs II and unfinished buisness

KingNothing · Post by **KingNothing** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:10 am

just a quick question. Does the scs II mod works with unfinished buissness mod?
I know it works fine with ascension, but i want to try it with the other mod. I also use a few features from the ease-of-use mod atm, mainly arrow stacking and unlimited bag of holding. Does that cause any problems with the scs II mod? Thanks in advance

Stworca · Post by **Stworca** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:17 am

It works fine afaik.

However make sure to install things such as G3 Tweaks and / or ease-of-use as -last-, so they affect content added by other mods as well.

KingNothing · Post by **KingNothing** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:24 am

hmm i thought i should install scs II last, afaik you should always install bugfixes first. Or am i completely wrong here?

Stworca · Post by **Stworca** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:29 am

G3 tweaks and ease-of-use are rule changes.

The order is

1. Official patches
2. Unofficial patch (g3 fixpack or baldurdash, the first one is better)
3. Everything that is not covered in 4 and 5. This would be Unfinished Business in your case.
4. SCSII.
5. Rule changing mods (g3 tweaks and ease-of-use)

KingNothing · Post by **KingNothing** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:36 am

Thanks for the answer, i will try that, i guess ascension should go under 3 as well

Stworca · Post by **Stworca** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:38 am

KingNothing wrote:i guess ascension should go under 3 as well

Yes.

There are some exceptions in the 5 point process, so keep an eye out for readme files.

Daynov · Post by **Daynov** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:42 am

KingNothing wrote:Thanks for the answer, i will try that, i guess ascension should go under 3 as well

Ascension goes after the official patch and before the fixpack otherwise it can cause problems ( overwrites files instead of patching them thus crapping over things installed prior to it ).

Stworca · Post by **Stworca** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:49 am

Is that so? I never had any problems with such installing order.
What kind of problems are we talking about here?

Fixpack only "fixes" vanilla game afaik.

Daynov · Post by **Daynov** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:10 am

Installing Ascension after fixpack will, at the very least, wipe out a big bunch of bugfixes to ( mostly ) protective spells. Ascension before fixpack also causes some problems ( some ascension stuff not working, nothing major though ). Basically it's up to you to decide what the lesser evil is.

Stworca · Post by **Stworca** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:29 am

It will only wipe out bug fixes to protection spells that affect innate abilities in Ascension fights, and even then, only for ascension fights.

With this being said i haven't noticed a single one of the above. Aside from that, SCSII sneak re-installs these fixes, so there is no loss here. (SCSII adds / alters many innate abilities, thus re-installing fixes to spells was a good move)

Installing Ascension before Fixpack may result in a certain .tlk file messing up.
Truth be told, installing anything before fixpack may lead to serious string issues.

Daynov · Post by **Daynov** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:13 am

Well it was discussed a lot through the years and the general consensus is that Ascension goes as early as possible, preferably before the Fixpack.