Sibling Rivalry

Brandon Sergent · Post by **Brandon Sergent** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:40 pm

I don't care if this is a necropost.

G.Jeanette_Seduce = 3
G.Therese_Seduce = 3

Besides having a persuasion of at least 4,

That was Awesome. Thanks Anaximander!

Signed up just to say that.

That whole conversation is stupid, and I do not consider it cheating because I'm a freaking vampire, (in this case a Trem with dom 4) how could I not snatch the gun or just be like "drop it" or tackle them, or something. It's like that stupid ladder jumping puzzle in the ghost house. Like walking around a corner or doing a chin up is impossible for the undead.

Noclip for the win.

Wesp5 · Post by **Wesp5** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:48 am

Brandon Sergent wrote:
That whole conversation is stupid, and I do not consider it cheating because I'm a freaking vampire, (in this case a Trem with dom 4) how could I not snatch the gun or just be like "drop it" or tackle them, or something.

While I agree that there is little way to know beforehand that you have to treat the sisters nicely all the time, from a game world perspective, Tourette (both sisters combined) is the Malkavian baron of Santa Monica and probably higher in generation than you. Try to dominate Therese and see yourself

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It's like that stupid ladder jumping puzzle in the ghost house.

Now which one would this be?

Brandon Sergent · Post by **Brandon Sergent** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:15 am

"Try to dominate Therese and see yourself

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Fair point, but still I think this dialog puzzle is broken.

"Now which one would this be?"

The haunted house Therese makes you fetch the locket from. the elevator tries to fall on you and then you have to climb it and jump across and then walk the ledge except the engine is so atrocious that you fall every time and physics don't apply, and you can't correct mid air, and grabbing a ledge with your hands its just crazy talk. So after falling down the shaft about a dozen times because of dumb, I decided to noclip, which completely ruined the mood, guilt free hehe.

Suddenly it stopped being vampire bloodlines and became Spastic Bloodlines: Where everyday actions are a challenge!

Wesp5 · Post by **Wesp5** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:30 am

Brandon Sergent wrote: Fair point, but still I think this dialog puzzle is broken.

I balanced it somewhat in my patch because obviously Troika wanted the majority of players to not reconcile them and also Therese killing off Jeanette.

So after falling down the shaft about a dozen times because of dumb, I decided to noclip, which completely ruined the mood, guilt free hehe.

I never had problems with that section. Crawling helps

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sear · Post by **sear** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:16 pm

I've never been able to reconcile the two, but I'm pretty sure that different versions of Wesp's patch over the years have had different values required, or require the player does a specific sequence of events in addition to hitting the persuasion options (correct me if I'm wrong). Either way I don't really mind much... personally I think it's a bit of a weird cop-out that you can get the obvious "best" solution.

Wesp5 · Post by **Wesp5** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:09 am

sear wrote:I've never been able to reconcile the two, but I'm pretty sure that different versions of Wesp's patch over the years have had different values required, or require the player does a specific sequence of events in addition to hitting the persuasion options (correct me if I'm wrong).

I don't think that this is true, at least I can't remember having changed this for years

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Brandon Sergent · Post by **Brandon Sergent** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:25 am

My new issue is a purely technical one. I'm not having much luck with search and this forum's layout is kind of alien to me so I'm just going to post about it here since I'm using the 8.1 patch.

When I try to board the Dane, I get a "rookied cop" error message. Just like here: http://www.iphpbb.com/board/ftopic-1704 ... -1280.html

I'll post there as well but I have to wait for an admin to activate my new account.

My VTM bloodlines came from steam so no CD scratches for me hehe. Any advice? If this is too far off topic feel free to point me somewhere more fitting.

Wesp5 · Post by **Wesp5** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:11 am

Brandon Sergent wrote: When I try to board the Dane, I get a "rookied cop" error message. Just like here: http://www.iphpbb.com/board/ftopic-1704 ... -1280.html.

Have you checked that the new models are where they are supposed to be, as mentioned in that thread?

Brandon Sergent · Post by **Brandon Sergent** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:02 am

Yup they are there. File sizes look suitable. Also if it was just a random toasted file, I wouldn't have expected to find an identical error. Thanks for looking into it

I love this game and I'm anxious to move forward. If I can't, is there some way to mark that quest as favorably completed?

Via console command I mean like above with the twins?

Wesp5 · Post by **Wesp5** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:18 am

Brandon Sergent wrote: Via console command I mean like above with the twins?

Try the following and then go back to LaCroix:
__main__.FindPlayer().SetQuest("Dane", 2)
G.Story_State = 15
G.Dane_Complete = 1
G.Dirtycop_Ending = 4

Brandon Sergent · Post by **Brandon Sergent** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:12 pm

Well that updated my log to include completion of the Dane quest but when I go to enter the Prince's building I get:

Engine Error
no precache: models/character/npc/unique/Hollywood/Gary/Nosferatu_Gary.mdl

Where should I post this other than here? I hate hijacking people's threads even if they are dead.

Wesp5 · Post by **Wesp5** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:43 pm

Brandon Sergent wrote: no precache: models/character/npc/unique/Hollywood/Gary/Nosferatu_Gary.mdl

This is similar to the Rookie Cop error. Did you continue an older saved game?

Brandon Sergent · Post by **Brandon Sergent** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:18 am

Did you continue an older saved game?

I don't understand the question. I had the game saved just before I attempted to board the Dane, and got the error above, then I applied the console commands to skip the dane and went straight to report in and got the second error message.

Going to have to reinstall anyway since this Steam crap means I effectively lost my account until I can take them to court.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/11505631394 ... ZfDdMgAVnK

Thanks for your help and sorry OP for the massive thread-jack

Brandon Sergent · Post by **Brandon Sergent** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:26 am

FYI to whom it may concern. I reinstalled, and applied the 8.1 patch (plus version) and copied over my saves and did the Dane mission without problems.

Thanks for your help

Sir Twist · Post by **Sir Twist** » Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:43 am

I have an old, really old, walk through that I printed out a long time ago. It has all the conversations you need with Jeanette and Therese. I think it might be off because of the patches that Wesp has made. I did find another guide, and this is not a shameless plug. It's a decent guide, and warns you that Wesp did make changes to the conversations, at some point. Here's the link:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/914819-vampi ... faqs/34398